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I feel no affinity, whatsoever, with this band. Stomping music, and aggressive hand gestures... to me, it's more akin to an old-style football chant. A 2-4-6-8, who do we appreciate... kind of thing. And not every skinhead was - unlike me - particularly arsed about football. Welcome anyway, mate.

Hi folks,

For a great website about post skinheads / suedeheads area :

http://crazeekids-music.blogspot.be/

You can find nice compilations, pictures, infos, etc......









BTW, is there someone who knows about the book used for the cover of "Boot Power vol 3" ...... ??

"Boot Power vol 2" is from the back of a Judge Dread LP .......

look behind the Slade's one ... something like "G?? and V???"

I was at Margate yesterday afternoon and met up with some of the thread members. I was not sure what to expect on entering the venue and I was quite surprised by the standard of dress of people who were all in skinhead clothes. I had taken with me a copy of the photo posted of the guys who were at York so I had some idea of who I was looking for. Colin had already said in a posting that he would probably be the oldest guy there. From the bar I could see a man that matched Colin’s description sitting by the entrance door chatting to a few younger skinheads. One of these looked like Buttons. As Buttons came passed carrying a plate of non descript food I asked if that was Colin and he replied that he was and said I should go and introduce myself.

Having joined Colin’s company we spent the best part of 4 hours having a few beers and a good conversation with plenty of banter. We certainly had a lot in common. When I met Colin he was talking with twisted Tag (Levi) who only in his mid twenties was dressed perfectly as we would have been at Margate 40 odd years ago. I also met Basset (sorry I cannot remember your first name) from Bristol who gave us a tour of his old school tattoos and shared great memories of his parents in their youth

We was later joined by Buttons who’s knowledge to detail of skinhead original clothing just blew me away of how certain stitching should be and if a tag was slightly incorrect - I said all we ever did was pay 49 shillings and sixpence for a pair of Levis , sit in the bath with them on and job done!! We joked that Buttons was like a living skinhead museum as he was wearing original 1969 Levis and Ben Sherman and when he went on to described his collection of period items at his home it was evident that this man was a serious skinhead memorabilia collector that I did not know existed.

I think Colin and I were the only originals from 69 there in the afternoon. But what I could see of the younger generations was that they had certainly taken the clothes detailing seriously and I have to admit I was very impressed.

The afternoon went quick before I had to leave and catch the train home. The 4 guys from the thread were great company with good humour and the ability to take the piss and have a laugh. It was a very enjoyable afternoon and I would look forward to meeting these guys again and also some of the other guys that were not around in the afternoon session

Thanks for an enjoyable drink together with good company – it certainly beat taking the wife shopping

Regards
George

this is Neat Change, a 1967-68 (??) band




any pict or info about them??

thanks


http://www.themarqueeclub.net/interview-with-brian-sparckling-of-neat-change

Sounds brilliant! (I'm quite jealous.)

Glad you all enjoyed yourselves; the pics on this thread prove there are some sharp-dressed folk out there - and you've reinforced my view on this... nice one.

Aces and Eights - thanks for sharing the Margate experience. Sounds like a great day/evening.

Here's one for the 'living skinhead museum' AKA 'Buttons'.

Just wondered if you have any knowledge on these 70's skinhead friendly shirt makers, they may be cheapo 'fine fare' products for all I know. are they any good? I suppose there are numerous makers of shirts in the late 60's and early 70's that fall into the mod/skinhead detailing of the time. Just trying to further expand my limited knowledge of skin clobber.



Aces and Eights said:

I was at Margate yesterday afternoon and met up with some of the thread members.  I was not sure what to expect on entering the venue and I was quite surprised by the standard of dress of people who were all in skinhead clothes.  I had taken with me a copy of the photo posted of the guys who were at York so I had some idea of who I was looking for.  Colin had already said in a posting that he would probably be the oldest guy there.  From the bar I could see a man that matched Colin’s description sitting by the entrance door chatting to a few younger skinheads.  One of these looked like Buttons.  As Buttons came passed carrying a plate of non descript food I asked if that was Colin and he replied that he was and said I should go and introduce myself.

Having joined Colin’s company we spent the best part of 4 hours having a few beers and a good conversation with plenty of banter.  We certainly had a lot in common.  When I met Colin he was talking with twisted Tag (Levi) who only in his mid twenties was dressed perfectly as we would have been at Margate 40 odd years ago.  I also met Basset (sorry I cannot remember your first name) from Bristol who gave us a tour of his old school tattoos and shared great memories of his parents in their youth

We was later joined by Buttons who’s knowledge to detail of skinhead original clothing just blew me away of how certain stitching should be and if a tag was slightly incorrect -  I said all we ever did was pay 49 shillings and sixpence for a pair of Levis , sit in the bath with them on and job done!!  We joked that Buttons was like a living skinhead museum as he was wearing original 1969 Levis and Ben Sherman and when he went on to described his collection of period items at his home it was evident that this man was a serious skinhead memorabilia collector that I did not know existed.

I think Colin and I were the only originals from 69 there in the afternoon.  But what I could see of the younger generations was that they had certainly taken the clothes detailing seriously and I have to admit I was very impressed.

The afternoon went quick before I had to leave and catch the train home.  The 4 guys from the thread were great company with good humour and the ability to take the piss and have a laugh.  It was a very enjoyable afternoon and I would look forward to meeting these guys again and also some of the other guys that were not around in the afternoon session

Thanks for an enjoyable drink together with good company – it certainly beat taking the wife shopping

Regards
George

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Glad you had a great time George, I could not make it this year as I was at Airborne Forces Day in Aldershot, Hope to see you at another Doo in the near future.

Roy



Aces and Eights said:

I was at Margate yesterday afternoon and met up with some of the thread members.  I was not sure what to expect on entering the venue and I was quite surprised by the standard of dress of people who were all in skinhead clothes.  I had taken with me a copy of the photo posted of the guys who were at York so I had some idea of who I was looking for.  Colin had already said in a posting that he would probably be the oldest guy there.  From the bar I could see a man that matched Colin’s description sitting by the entrance door chatting to a few younger skinheads.  One of these looked like Buttons.  As Buttons came passed carrying a plate of non descript food I asked if that was Colin and he replied that he was and said I should go and introduce myself.

Having joined Colin’s company we spent the best part of 4 hours having a few beers and a good conversation with plenty of banter.  We certainly had a lot in common.  When I met Colin he was talking with twisted Tag (Levi) who only in his mid twenties was dressed perfectly as we would have been at Margate 40 odd years ago.  I also met Basset (sorry I cannot remember your first name) from Bristol who gave us a tour of his old school tattoos and shared great memories of his parents in their youth

We was later joined by Buttons who’s knowledge to detail of skinhead original clothing just blew me away of how certain stitching should be and if a tag was slightly incorrect -  I said all we ever did was pay 49 shillings and sixpence for a pair of Levis , sit in the bath with them on and job done!!  We joked that Buttons was like a living skinhead museum as he was wearing original 1969 Levis and Ben Sherman and when he went on to described his collection of period items at his home it was evident that this man was a serious skinhead memorabilia collector that I did not know existed.

I think Colin and I were the only originals from 69 there in the afternoon.  But what I could see of the younger generations was that they had certainly taken the clothes detailing seriously and I have to admit I was very impressed.

The afternoon went quick before I had to leave and catch the train home.  The 4 guys from the thread were great company with good humour and the ability to take the piss and have a laugh.  It was a very enjoyable afternoon and I would look forward to meeting these guys again and also some of the other guys that were not around in the afternoon session

Thanks for an enjoyable drink together with good company – it certainly beat taking the wife shopping

Regards
George

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Alright Aces,
Glad you enjoyed your afternoon at the sea side. Was good to meet and was a crack with you, Colin, Bertie Basset and Mr Twist Tag etc.
It was quite strange to think that you hadn't been to this kind of thing before. I've been doing this for decades so its second nature in a lot of respects.
As I was saying yesterday, for you lads back then, you just went to the shop and said "Levi's please .... the ones with zip flies". If I want the same ones, I need to understand from the million different pairs of Levis now available, which ones are which (and to avoid the ones from M&S - ha ha). There's lots of stuff you didn't have to know then that if I didn't know now, I'd have no chance of achieving the look.
Shame we didn't get a photo of the crowd. But despite wearing most of your pint down my 40-odd year old Benny, I did get to eat (non-descript) Mutton Curry for breakfast, see Colin dancing on his bad leg and see Ace's legendary Saint tattoo. Good times.

Seeing as I had about 7 hours sleep since Friday morning, I'm off to bed to catch up so will chat more about shirts another time.

If I find any suitable pics from teh weekend, I'll post them up.
Until next time,
Buttons

@tasselandbraces



NEAT CHANGE

Peter Banks joined the Neat Change after he left Mabel Greer's Toyshop in late 1968. Neat Change were already a well established group. Their look was not hippy-Swinging London at all; it was the opposite. Banks eventually got fired because of not wanting to adapt to their look, but not after recording on the B-side of their sole single, I Lied To Aunty May. Peter Frampton plays guitar is on the A-side, which was one of his compositions.

Personnel:
Brian Sprackling Guitar
Ian McLean Drums
Steve Smith Bass
John Lumley-Saville Keyboards
Jimmy Edwards Vocals, Guitar

Ian McLean Drums
Steve Smith Bass
Peter Banks Guitar (last 8 weeks)

From here :

http://www.psychosync.info/members/neat.htm

& from the book 'The Tapestry Of Delights :

45:
1 I Lied To Auntie May/Sandman (some PS) (Decca F 12809) 1968


This 45 is now quite collectable on account of Peter Banks' involvement in the band. Banks' other bands included The Syn, Yes and Flash. The 'A' side, I Lied To Auntie May, is a string quartet-laden piece of pop art.

Compilation appearances include: I Lied To Auntie May on We Can Fly (CD), British Psychedelic Trip, Vol. 4 (LP) and Great British Psychedelic Trip, Vol. 2 (CD).

Found this on a Slade site , thought some of you may like ...

i know that this isn't a barbers how-to forum or anything, but does anyone know how to shave in a part like the kid in the picture below has?

i feel silly even asking this, as i am sure that you just simply take the clippers with no guard and shave the line in, but i am not too keen on messing it up and having to shave my head all the way down.

I alreaddy saw that, but thanks anyway !



buttons said:

Alright Aces,
Glad you enjoyed your afternoon at the sea side. Was good to meet and was a crack with you, Colin, Bertie Basset and Mr Twist Tag etc.
It was quite strange to think that you hadn't been to this kind of thing before. I've been doing this for decades so its second nature in a lot of respects.
As I was saying yesterday, for you lads back then, you just went to the shop and said "Levi's please .... the ones with zip flies". If I want the same ones, I need to understand from the million different pairs of Levis now available, which ones are which (and to avoid the ones from M&S - ha ha). There's lots of stuff you didn't have to know then that if I didn't know now, I'd have no chance of achieving the look.
Shame we didn't get a photo of the crowd. But despite wearing most of your pint down my 40-odd year old Benny, I did get to eat (non-descript) Mutton Curry for breakfast, see Colin dancing on his bad leg and see Ace's legendary Saint tattoo. Good times.
Seeing as I had about 7 hours sleep since Friday morning, I'm off to bed to catch up so will chat more about shirts another time.
If I find any suitable pics from teh weekend, I'll post them up.
Until next time,
Buttons

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I knew you would have to say about the Pint!!!,Buttons.Me getting animated with my Hands.Though later that night Mr Twist Tag put some of his Pint down his Suit-so I was not the only one!!!

It was good to meet you Aces and Eights(the years rolled back).Also thanks to Basset(for filling me ,about the Bristol Scene.Mr Twist Tag for a great night Friday Night-when I danced on my bad Leg(have not told Missus about that yet!!).Buttons,tell your young Lady,it was a pleasure meeting Her as well(I forgotten the Name - apologies).Cannot get over how run-down Margate was though(was there in `65,on a bck of a Scooter).Where the Bar was,there was some good Shops etc., about. I never did get the Curried Mutton-it looked good.

Now,getting back to Skinhead Issues:-
To my mind,what was the sense to keep paying Simons Prices,when I could get the same Article for cheaper elsewhere -Royals.Shirts I bought there,until Ben Shermans made the Shirts I liked.Sheepskins were made near Petticoat Lane,so why go and pay more in Department Stores-when they were a lot cheaper in the Market(in `68 they were proper Sheepskins) or in the Factory Shops.I went to Brixton Market for Leather Jackets in `68 ish,because you could not get them anywhere else.I mixed my Shopping,as I know a lot of Skinheads(my Age)did.You are right about M&S they did do great Socks and Sleeveless Pullovers.When I walked down the Street,nobody could say he looks Cheap-because I was wearing nearly the same Gear as the so called "Top Boys" were(though not the bloody Leather Levi Jacket- small numbers about).I also bought my Harrington in Millets.So what ????



sleep or die said:

i know that this isn't a barbers how-to forum or anything, but does anyone know how to shave in a part like the kid in the picture below has?

i feel silly even asking this, as i am sure that you just simply take the clippers with no guard and shave the line in, but i am not too keen on messing it up and having to shave my head all the way down.

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Try a single Blade "Bic"(something like it),and do it yourself.Otherwise,go to a Barber and get it done properly.I have done it both ways.



sleep or die said:

i know that this isn't a barbers how-to forum or anything, but does anyone know how to shave in a part like the kid in the picture below has?

i feel silly even asking this, as i am sure that you just simply take the clippers with no guard and shave the line in, but i am not too keen on messing it up and having to shave my head all the way down.

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browniecj said:

Try a single Blade "Bic"(something like it),and do it yourself.Otherwise,go to a Barber and get it done properly.I have done it both ways.

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Clippers, no guard and a steady hand.
Would be very careful if you're doing it your self. And be prepared to fall out with yer bird when she messes it up.