or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › Mod to Suedehead
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Mod to Suedehead - Page 1066

post #15976 of 18817
Hi Everybody! Wow man, up to 1065 pages... Even though I haven't posted to this since pg.584, I've kept up my weekly reading. Nice to see all the contributors still going strong!

Anyhoo, while reading the recent deals people have picked up, I wanted to throw this one into the mix:

Last weekend I was in an outlet store looking to see if they had some of the dress socks sold at retail, -& they didn't. So on my way out, I strolled through the shoes to scope out my size (11). Cutting through the size 10.5 "dress shoes" & ready to exit that row to find the 11's, I see a closed Florsheim box with the front sticker stating "Color: Cordovan". I grabbed the box out & opened it up, & to my surprise, I'm looking at a pair of longwing brogues (New & still unlaced) in my size & placed in the wrong section (or hidden there)! I tried them on, & they fit perfect, -so I held onto the box...

Noting that they were Florsheim for Duckie Brown, I broke my phone out for a bit of research to see exactly wtf I was holding. Turns out the serial #'s on the inside (19007-605) confirmed color as "Dark Cherry" & the "Genuine Horween Cordovan" stamp on each sole confirmed they were Shell Cordo & not the calf skin run of this shoe. -I then bought them for $100.

Note: A year or so ago, these things retailed for $650 (overpriced for being in the Alden price range etc.). Obviously the make doesn't have the creds of Alden or similar, -but they are shell, & they have been in the box long enough to have not lightened in color. Color is not as dark as Alden cordo #8's, -its almost like a lighter black cherry color. Only thing I don't like is the out-sole (sidewall) and the welt is brown, -& not a cool natural brown or stained leather type brown, -looks like lighter shade of brown dressing to me. So now I'm going to strip the brown & re-coat the visible out-sole & welt black (comparable to an AE MacNeil). So with that done, probably about $112 spent on these things. Shoe is a basic gunboat, -compared to my AE MacNeil's the welt is thicker so these stand about 2mm higher from the floor, heel is about half inch shorter at the heel breast, & the toe is a tad rounder then my AE's (almost between AE & Alden). All-in-all a bit chunkier then my AE's.

Sorry for the long winded story, -but hey, I haven't dumped anything to this for around 500 pages & I felt I almost had to tell the story because 2 days prior I was looking at vintage cordo Florsheim on the net & my wife walked in, looked at my laptop, rolled her eyes & said something like "dude you have those already" (I didn't even acknowledge her presence at that point).

So at this point, on those casual days when I'm wearing jeans & a BD, I can now kick around in some cordo's without subconsciously tripping out on my shoe health... Not the best pics, but you know how that is...

post #15977 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by Con Seanery View Post

Hi Everybody! Wow man, up to 1065 pages... Even though I haven't posted to this since pg.584, I've kept up my weekly reading. Nice to see all the contributors still going strong!

Anyhoo, while reading the recent deals people have picked up, I wanted to throw this one into the mix:

Last weekend I was in an outlet store looking to see if they had some of the dress socks sold at retail, -& they didn't. So on my way out, I strolled through the shoes to scope out my size (11). Cutting through the size 10.5 "dress shoes" & ready to exit that row to find the 11's, I see a closed Florsheim box with the front sticker stating "Color: Cordovan". I grabbed the box out & opened it up, & to my surprise, I'm looking at a pair of longwing brogues (New & still unlaced) in my size & placed in the wrong section (or hidden there)! I tried them on, & they fit perfect, -so I held onto the box...

Noting that they were Florsheim for Duckie Brown, I broke my phone out for a bit of research to see exactly wtf I was holding. Turns out the serial #'s on the inside (19007-605) confirmed color as "Dark Cherry" & the "Genuine Horween Cordovan" stamp on each sole confirmed they were Shell Cordo & not the calf skin run of this shoe. -I then bought them for $100.

Note: A year or so ago, these things retailed for $650 (overpriced for being in the Alden price range etc.). Obviously the make doesn't have the creds of Alden or similar, -but they are shell, & they have been in the box long enough to have not lightened in color. Color is not as dark as Alden cordo #8's, -its almost like a lighter black cherry color. Only thing I don't like is the out-sole (sidewall) and the welt is brown, -& not a cool natural brown or stained leather type brown, -looks like lighter shade of brown dressing to me. So now I'm going to strip the brown & re-coat the visible out-sole & welt black (comparable to an AE MacNeil). So with that done, probably about $112 spent on these things. Shoe is a basic gunboat, -compared to my AE MacNeil's the welt is thicker so these stand about 2mm higher from the floor, heel is about half inch shorter at the heel breast, & the toe is a tad rounder then my AE's (almost between AE & Alden). All-in-all a bit chunkier then my AE's.

Sorry for the long winded story, -but hey, I haven't dumped anything to this for around 500 pages & I felt I almost had to tell the story because 2 days prior I was looking at vintage cordo Florsheim on the net & my wife walked in, looked at my laptop, rolled her eyes & said something like "dude you have those already" (I didn't even acknowledge her presence at that point).

So at this point, on those casual days when I'm wearing jeans & a BD, I can now kick around in some cordo's without subconsciously tripping out on my shoe health... Not the best pics, but you know how that is...

Welcome back,very nice shoes and although I am envious its good to see someone get a result.

post #15978 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

Yes that was the great thing about the badge on the sheepskin,the badge kind of sunk back into the pile...what did your badge mean?

I have no idea - but it must have had some relevance back then

post #15979 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

Welcome back,very nice shoes and although I am envious its good to see someone get a result.

Thanks Cerneabbas, yeah I'm pretty happy about it smile.gif

Quick heads-up: Brooks Brothers started the Veterans Day Sale today through Monday. Web has 75% off on a bunch of select stuff. In-Store has 25% off everything. Im picking up 4 more pairs of their sta-prest Saturday (Milano Advantage Chinos).

That is all, Ill be back in about 500 pages wink.gif
post #15980 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aces and Eights View Post
 

I have no idea - but it must have had some relevance back then

I searched for think skull badge and found that they are still sold by Hawkshaw motorcycles ( for £5 ),I wonder if its a motorbike safety thing,like think once think twice think bike,the safety advert.

I said mainly enamel football badges but there were motorbike and scooter badges and I remember one lad used to wear an enamel shamrock badge.

post #15981 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post

Nails through the sole was a problem and we repaired them over mums gas stove with a hot flat knife.

I remember that dodge/bodge, now you mention it, although I never had to do it myself.
post #15982 of 18817
Small enamel badges were more common then, cerneabbas. I had a small Manchester City badge - the old round crest (roytonboy will remember that). Got that in late 69 and as well as wearing it on match days, I used to wear it in my school blazer during the week. At some point I started putting it in the middle-top of my top pocket, as a bit of a nod to the tie-pin in top pocket look. Didn't go so far as a silk hankie as well - that would have been too conspicuous - but the badge seemed to escape the attention of the uniform police.

Think I still have that badge in the loft. I now have a small enamel badge that City's shop sold as a retro look a couple of years ago. It's based on the old logo from the programme cover in the late 60s - City in letters curved to fit into a circle/ ball. Not a great description I'm afraid (but roytonboy will remember that as well I expect). Don't remember seeing it on a badge back then but I got it because it reminds me so clearly of 1969/70.
post #15983 of 18817

I think it is great to read what Closeau has to write regarding the Minets, quote; 'At the time, you bought the  Renoma Blazer (all the Minets wanted one) and choose a patch you had to saw yourself'.

 

We didn't have a clue about Minets (we didn't know about anything outside London and the Suburbs) but a much forgotten part of what we wore when 15/16 was the Initialed Blazer. The blazer had to be 3 button, patch pockets,centre vent and navy/black. We got the pocket badges made up separately, usually with three initals in a gold surround, and they were sewn on by our mums.(I still have my badge).Some boys had more detailed badges but no one in my area had football teams because the support was not uniform and you could easily stray outside your territory.I had a Saturday job in a high street menswear shop and discovered a pattern book for badges.I was on commission and I earned quite a bit ordering badges. It started small with 6 per Saturday and 3 months later it reached close to a hundred. My boss didn't have a clue what was going on but he appreciated the extra business.It quickly died out because our dress started to resemble school uniforms, which we hated.

post #15984 of 18817

The white BD shirt has always been part of my wardrobe. My first Ben Sherman was stripped but I quickly started to buy plain colours including white. Some dance halls introduced ultra violet lighting and a white shirt really stood out. We wore the white shirts with our blazers (adding to the school uniform look). For summer I preferred the baggy sleeved, loud check, America import shirts from the Squire shop..

post #15985 of 18817

Enameled football badges were also a bit of a no-no in our area for reasons given above but some of us used to go to West Ham Speedway and you could wear those badges anywhere because there was never any violence at the Speedway. It was a family sport back then with no trouble and you could safely travel away to Wimbledon,Hackney,Romford or Rye House.

post #15986 of 18817

Whats this about dress codes at run of the mill pubs? I could see an exclusive club but the local pub shouldn't have a dress code that is ridiculous, as for the enamel badges as you call them they probably reached their peak in the 70's and mid 80's and were largely overshadowed by the button pin craze and both have pretty much become greatly diminished although still very much present here among certain groups they don't really have the same connotations here so I don't you will get someone fighting you over them unless they are particularly offensive.

post #15987 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by elwood View Post

Small enamel badges were more common then, cerneabbas. I had a small Manchester City badge - the old round crest (roytonboy will remember that). Got that in late 69 and as well as wearing it on match days, I used to wear it in my school blazer during the week. At some point I started putting it in the middle-top of my top pocket, as a bit of a nod to the tie-pin in top pocket look. Didn't go so far as a silk hankie as well - that would have been too conspicuous - but the badge seemed to escape the attention of the uniform police.

Think I still have that badge in the loft. I now have a small enamel badge that City's shop sold as a retro look a couple of years ago. It's based on the old logo from the programme cover in the late 60s - City in letters curved to fit into a circle/ ball. Not a great description I'm afraid (but roytonboy will remember that as well I expect). Don't remember seeing it on a badge back then but I got it because it reminds me so clearly of 1969/70.

elwood.I also like the retro type enamel badges ,I have noticed on e bay that there is a bit of a trade in them but I never see anybody wearing them now,maybe people just collect them ?.

post #15988 of 18817
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirryacus View Post
 

Whats this about dress codes at run of the mill pubs? I could see an exclusive club but the local pub shouldn't have a dress code that is ridiculous, as for the enamel badges as you call them they probably reached their peak in the 70's and mid 80's and were largely overshadowed by the button pin craze and both have pretty much become greatly diminished although still very much present here among certain groups they don't really have the same connotations here so I don't you will get someone fighting you over them unless they are particularly offensive.

Sirryacus.I can clearly remember being refused a drink in the 70s in a pub ( The Cock of the North,Pressure Drop would know it ) because we were wearing jeans !,a lot of pubs then had a lounge bar where the dress standard had to be better than the public bar.

Compare this to yesterday ,I took my girlfriend out for lunch to a pub 10 miles outside the city,the car park was full ( some nice cars too )the pub was packed with people eating lunch,I said to my girlfriend as we left that every person that I saw in there was scruffy,mainly older people and not poor people,there are no dress standards now compared to then and most people here seem very badly dressed IMO.


Edited by cerneabbas - 11/8/13 at 4:25am
post #15989 of 18817

Obviously its a foreign concept to me being a guy that wears jeans just about anywhere and avoiding any place that wouldn't allow such a thing which are few and far between nowadays obviously, I'm sure there were certain places in the states at that time with the same policy but I doubt any place outside of a club would have such a policy where I live, was it a widespread policy or just one of specific places in specific parts of town?

post #15990 of 18817

Some good stuff lately.  I liked the Renoma report, thank you for taking the trouble, Clouseau.

 

The issue of regional variations has come up again too, I see.  I can relate most closely to Bob the Badger's experience and timeframe.  Even so, there are still big variations.  We never went through the blazer craze, for example - it just didn't register.

 

Even within a relatively few miles there were huge differences.  I lived about midway between Ipswich and London - each is about 35 miles from Chelmsford.  Ipswich Town in those days were in the top flight and I often used to go there to watch a London team play.  The 'tractor boys' fans looked like they were from a different century almost compared to London supporters.

 

I remember one particular Saturday in early 1969 or 70 going to watch an Ipswich v Spurs game and, having paid for my ticket I entered the end where I thought the Tottenham supporters would be. Initially I thought that they must have fallen on hard times - they looked like shit.  Then I realised my mistake!  I had gone into the wrong end!!  Never mind, being a neutral I never wore any distinguishing marks.  I was also obviously far better off than I am today, as I promptly left the ground, went to the other end and paid again!  I think it must have been early 1970 as I recall I and most of the Tottenham mob were wearing harringtons.  As ever, I have no recollection of the game itself, but always remember that vast difference in style.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Streetwear and Denim
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › Mod to Suedehead