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They look pretty good to me. I recently found a Next catalogue from the late '80s in the loft, when George Davies was running the business. It was a shock to see how 'Ivy' some of their products were back then. I had forgotten  If they offered the same products today I would be quite happy to shop there, which just goes to show how standards on the high street have dropped. It was before the time when production was outsourced to China. Nothing will change however as the share price is going through the roof with them selling the man made Made in China crap.

Sad but true,I remember about 1990 going into Next with the Gf and they had some very nice button downs,good quality,now I very rarely bother going in there...the biggest department store in Bristol was John Lewis,now the same building is a Primark ! we are in a minority in wanting something special quality wise,the majority only want something cheap and cheerful.IMO

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Sad but true,I remember about 1990 going into Next with the Gf and they had some very nice button downs,good quality,now I very rarely bother going in there...the biggest department store in Bristol was John Lewis,now the same building is a Primark ! we are in a minority in wanting something special quality wise,the majority only want something cheap and cheerful.IMO

My hairdresser, who is five years younger than me complained last week of all the little bitches in Chelmsford sleep-walking into a major crisis he sees coming (he's German BTW) wearing nothing but Primark shit (whole outfit costs £12 or so) but sporting a new iPhone....

 

Our Primark was once a C&A.

post #15798 of 19165
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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post
 


They look pretty good to me. I recently found a Next catalogue from the late '80s in the loft, when George Davies was running the business. It was a shock to see how 'Ivy' some of their products were back then. I had forgotten  If they offered the same products today I would be quite happy to shop there, which just goes to show how standards on the high street have dropped. It was before the time when production was outsourced to China. Nothing will change however as the share price is going through the roof with them selling the man made Made in China crap.

George Davies is innocent ! :) 

 

Seriously though,for about five minutes at the time Next were a breath of fresh air on the High street.They were the Adolpho Dominguez of the day and were often the option unless Reiss were in town.

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" all the little bitches in Chelmsford sleep-walking into a major crisis".

 

 

   Priceless.....Particularly in a German Hairdresser's accent !

post #15801 of 19165
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post
 

George Davies is innocent ! :)

 

Seriously though,for about five minutes at the time Next were a breath of fresh air on the High street.They were the Adolpho Dominguez of the day and were often the option unless Reiss were in town.

Agreed!

post #15802 of 19165
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Make of this what you will:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Lost-Tribes-Leicestershire-Skinheads/story-12065834-detail/story.html

One Leicester guy's memories of his time as a skinhead.

Very interesting read. The very first time i saw skinheads was in Leicester in 1979. They were hangin' around a shopping centre in town, don't remember the name but it was quite big. They were fierce. You could feel aggression, pride, and it was better to avoid "eye contact". Of course, they were 2nd wave skins, nothing to do with the guy telling his story in the newspaper. But they were a shock for me. First time i noticed DMs. I bought my first pair the next year. At the time, you could only buy them in England. 

post #15803 of 19165
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Very interesting read. The very first time i saw skinheads was in Leicester in 1979. They were hangin' around a shopping centre in town, don't remember the name but it was quite big. They were fierce. You could feel aggression, pride, and it was better to avoid "eye contact". Of course, they were 2nd wave skins, nothing to do with the guy telling his story in the newspaper. But they were a shock for me. First time i noticed DMs. I bought my first pair the next year. At the time, you could only buy them in England.

Clouseau,Were there punks in Paris at that time ?,I saw skinheads in Paris in the very early 80s.

BTW,your paraboots looked good in the picture,I would like a pair but I don't think that I would be wearing them in 20 years time..

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Oh yes, there were punks in Paris from 1976-1977, i guess. The Sex Pistols played in the "Chalet du lac" in 1976. And The Clash came early too to play in the city, like the Stranglers, etc. The first Paris skinhead gang, the fearful "skins des halles" were former punks for most of them.

My paraboots got a lot of wear (you can see it in the picture...) They are very comfy. They got a very thick rubber sole (half used!), and are made in "norwegian stitching". Hope i will keep them another 20 years:).

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Oh yes, there were punks in Paris from 1976-1977, i guess. The Sex Pistols played in the "Chalet du lac" in 1976. And The Clash came early too to play in the city, like the Stranglers, etc. The first Paris skinhead gang, the fearful "skins des halles" were former punks for most of them.

My paraboots got a lot of wear (you can see it in the picture...) They are very comfy. They got a very thick rubber sole (half used!), and are made in "norwegian stitching". Hope i will keep them another 20 years:).

I think that the paraboots would be a good alternative to monkey boots or Doc Martens,interesting about the punks in Paris as early as that..I fond it strange to still see punks in Germany about 5 years ago,I cant remember when I last saw one here.

BTW,do you see many people wearing Doc Marten boots now ? and is it blokes or girls ? here I mostly see girls and not so many of them usually girl students ( have seen 3 since the beginning of October )....

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The punk movement came really early in France. There were influences from the American punks too (Stooges, Ramones, etc) and there were French punk bands very early on.

But you won't see a punk in paris now. They're all dead. And if you spot a skinhead, 99% chance he's a bonehead.

 

It's true that now the most people i see wearing DMs boots in Paris are... Teenage girls!

 

About Paraboots, we were talking recently about the fact that most shoes are now made abroad. Well the Paraboots are still made in France, and i don't find them that expensive because the quality is really very good.

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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
 

The punk movement came really early in France. There were influences from the American punks too (Stooges, Ramones, etc) and there were French punk bands very early on.

But you won't see a punk in paris now. They're all dead. And if you spot a skinhead, 99% chance he's a bonehead.

 

It's true that now the most people i see wearing DMs boots in Paris are... Teenage girls!

 

About Paraboots, we were talking recently about the fact that most shoes are now made abroad. Well the Paraboots are still made in France, and i don't find them that expensive because the quality is really very good.

I was thinking the same about the paraboots,they look better when they have been worn than when they are new IMO,are they easy to find in the shops in France ?.

I was wearing my monkey boots today and I was thinking that most people have never seen them ( I have never seen anyone wearing them for many years ) but if I was wearing DMs people would be looking at them and thinking girls boots,times have really changed since the 70s when DMs were everywhere and monkey boots were the "poor boys" boot !

post #15808 of 19165

Yes Paraboots are easy to find here. A lot of small shops stock them, and department stores too. And they now have got small flagship stores. As i already said, the "Michael" is a classic here, and is wear by youngs and olds, boys and girls. I think there is a simple reason for that: it's the best model in terms of durability,and has got a look of his own. One you like or you hate, like you said about Monkey boots. I think (not sure) that some Englih mods used to wore them at one point.

post #15809 of 19165
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roytonboy,I  am not an expert on shoes, but I think that if your soles wore down quickly it could be due to the quality of leather used on the sole.

I am guessing that these shoes were cheaper than a known brand ie Cheaney ?,if so it could be the same as the Bexley shoes that have been discussed here previously,the shop recommends putting a thin rubber sole on the shoe as soon as possible to prevent wear.

I have the Bexley longwings a nice looking shoe IMO,very comfortable,but with a thin very soft leather sole and I am guessing that lack of a quality leather sole is how they keep their cost low.

I think that it is a case of buying a more expensive shoe and getting more wear from it,I read that a lot of real quality shoes use specially aged and conditioned leather for their soles,check out those Robinson longwings that Botolph put up pictures of,those soles are going to last a long time.

I have found a brogue that looks very similar to the shoes being worn by blokes in Bristol about 1970,Sanders Fakenham ,not a longwing,would something like that have been worn in your area around then ? also most brogues that I saw then were black,was that also the case in Manchester ?.

 

Around Manchester brogues were popular right through 1968 -1972. Initially almost exclusively brown, then brown and oxblood 1969/1970 with black, especially longwings (or 'Royals' as we used to describe them) becoming much more popular 1971/1972. I am tempted to say brown and oxblood were 'skinhead' wear and black were more 'Suedehead'. It could have been that the older lads were going into 'town' more smartly dressed on a Friday or Saturday night and wearing black brogues with suits and blazers but I wasn't aware of this.  To me being skinhead in 1969/70 was Levi's (or similar), boots, brogues and sta-prest, but I was 15 at the time.

 

Brown and oxblood always looked better with jeans and light sta-prest IMHO but that is just my opinion. Black certainly smarter with Prince of Wales or Tonic trousers.

post #15810 of 19165
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
 

Yes Paraboots are easy to find here. A lot of small shops stock them, and department stores too. And they now have got small flagship stores. As i already said, the "Michael" is a classic here, and is wear by youngs and olds, boys and girls. I think there is a simple reason for that: it's the best model in terms of durability,and has got a look of his own. One you like or you hate, like you said about Monkey boots. I think (not sure) that some Englih mods used to wore them at one point.

Very few companies are keeping their products well made,I hope that the ones that do are successful.

I find it sad to look at some clothes and shoes now and to remember how much better they used to be ( now I sound very old ),the accountants must know how to maximise the profit margin,but it leaves us fewer and fewer choices,even the so called quality brands are mass produced by the cheapest methods.

I forgot to mention that I saw the Barbour Steve Mcqueen "Harrington" in House of Fraser,Cardiff,I thought that it looked ok the material was a lighter weight than the coats,but when I tried on a large it was too small ,the XL was a nice fit in the body but the sleeves completely covered my hands !.

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