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Originally Posted by roytonboy View Post
 

 

 I bought a pair of "Bench Made" brogues from Next many years ago. Within 3 months I had to have them re-soled. When I took them to the cobbler, he played heck about the poor quality of them, saying they shouldn't have needed repairing in such a short space of time. I wrote a letter of complaint to Next but didn't even get a reply. Needless to say, I've never bought a pair of shoes from there since.

roytonboy,I  am not an expert on shoes, but I think that if your soles wore down quickly it could be due to the quality of leather used on the sole.

I am guessing that these shoes were cheaper than a known brand ie Cheaney ?,if so it could be the same as the Bexley shoes that have been discussed here previously,the shop recommends putting a thin rubber sole on the shoe as soon as possible to prevent wear.

I have the Bexley longwings a nice looking shoe IMO,very comfortable,but with a thin very soft leather sole and I am guessing that lack of a quality leather sole is how they keep their cost low.

I think that it is a case of buying a more expensive shoe and getting more wear from it,I read that a lot of real quality shoes use specially aged and conditioned leather for their soles,check out those Robinson longwings that Botolph put up pictures of,those soles are going to last a long time.

I have found a brogue that looks very similar to the shoes being worn by blokes in Bristol about 1970,Sanders Fakenham ,not a longwing,would something like that have been worn in your area around then ? also most brogues that I saw then were black,was that also the case in Manchester ?.

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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post
 

Gsvs5 recently reminded us of the need to keep moving on (the debate about J Simons v. al Bazar) and in that vein I was interested to read this blog on mod shoes (scroll down to second piece) by Warren Peace the 'Marmite of Mod'.  A modernist attitude but not standard-issue Mod:

 

http://www.modshoes.co.uk/index.php/blog/

I think that this is the same idea that has been talked about on here before,you said about a nod to the past regarding style ( sorry if I have misquoted you ).

Who wants to go on wearing exactly the same clobber forever ?,but using the the basic style and moving it on and updating it is surely the way ?.

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Make of this what you will:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Lost-Tribes-Leicestershire-Skinheads/story-12065834-detail/story.html

One Leicester guy's memories of his time as a skinhead.
post #15784 of 18914
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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post
 

I have been looking for a low-ish pair of Chelsea boots for ages (like the ones I had in 1965) and without the pointy toe, which is all I seem to find now.

 

Funny that, I have been looking for about 10 years for a pair of Jodhpurs boots to match the ones I bought from an equestrian shop in Elm Park in 67/68. Plenty of boots around but nothing to match the slightly rounded toe of my original boots. The search continues.

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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Make of this what you will:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Lost-Tribes-Leicestershire-Skinheads/story-12065834-detail/story.html

One Leicester guy's memories of his time as a skinhead.


His story doesn't ring true if he is 53 years old, as stated. If he was born in 1953 it is more believable. Its quite close to some of my own memories, except for the violence. We generally only fought with boys our own age (usually at football) and mirror images of ourselves. Any aggro was incidental, except at football matches. We were only interested in having a good time. Other people were invisible to us.

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Originally Posted by Inks View Post
 

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Black longwings by Next that I spotted on ebay. Leather soles and leather lined. Made in Ireland. I don't really know anything about the quality of Next, or Irish-made hoofs.


They look pretty good to me. I recently found a Next catalogue from the late '80s in the loft, when George Davies was running the business. It was a shock to see how 'Ivy' some of their products were back then. I had forgotten  If they offered the same products today I would be quite happy to shop there, which just goes to show how standards on the high street have dropped. It was before the time when production was outsourced to China. Nothing will change however as the share price is going through the roof with them selling the man made Made in China crap.

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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Pink Shirts are a funny thing.A lot of People would probably deny that they had one.In the mid 60s I had one with a long "Spear" Collar,and about `70/`71 I had one (BD)which I wore with my Blazer.smile.gif


I have always worn pink BD shirts. I think it is an easy colour to wear for casual or smart. I do however remember coming across prejudice back in the day, mainly from friends with an Irish background. Some of the Irish were very conservative (some still are) and to them a Pink anything represented the sign of a bum bandit. Luckily I was macho enough to carry the look off. I remember walking into an 'Irish' pub (the Joker, Seven Kings) with 1/2 dozen mates, suited and booted  and smelling of Aramis. The local navies whistled us in but it was all in good fun because they knew we were young and 'out on the pull'.

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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post


His story doesn't ring true if he is 53 years old, as stated. If he was born in 1953 it is more believable. Its quite close to some of my own memories, except for the violence. We generally only fought with boys our own age (usually at football) and mirror images of ourselves. Any aggro was incidental, except at football matches. We were only interested in having a good time. Other people were invisible to us.
Apologies, Bob, I should have highlighted the piece was written in 2010, making him around 56-57, now. shog[1].gif
post #15789 of 18914
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Make of this what you will:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Lost-Tribes-Leicestershire-Skinheads/story-12065834-detail/story.html

One Leicester guy's memories of his time as a skinhead.


Interesting Story from the Midlands.Years ago I knew a couple of Guys from Leicester(when I was following Northern Soul".Complete nutters-both of them!! Good times.....smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post


Apologies, Bob, I should have highlighted the piece was written in 2010, making him around 56-57, now. shog[1].gif


I just assumed it was recently written. If he is 56/57 that would make it believable but even then he must have been ahead of the game in his own peer group. It would be a bit like me claiming to be a London Mod. I know the clothes details , where they went and what they did from my cousins, who were Mods, but it would be stretching the truth to claim I was there.

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The Story pretty much followed what one of my exGirlfriends told.She came from Walsall and most of the mob she knew came from Wolverhampton.Shame I am not in touch with her now,as she had Photos from `69/`70 onwards(including Club Memberships).Janet could write a Book about the Scene in the Midlands,many People I got to know verified most of what she told me.
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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post


I just assumed it was recently written. If he is 56/57 that would make it believable but even then he must have been ahead of the game in his own peer group. It would be a bit like me claiming to be a London Mod. I know the clothes details , where they went and what they did from my cousins, who were Mods, but it would be stretching the truth to claim I was there.

It would make him 12/13 in `69.
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

I have just remembered what I was wearing to my eldest Sister`s wedding,in `63 I wore a variation that had had a "Diamond Shape Toe"half Chelsea with a small Cuban Heel.These came out after the "Winklepicker" Chelsea Boots..You could wear these with the slim legged Italian Style Suits(my Father had just bought me).Another name for them is "Half Ankle Chelsea Boot".

I know I have commented before about the multitude of styles that were covered during the early "Mod" era,and your comments confirm and highlight this Colin.

As I have said before it irks me when people "Throw together" different pieces from that timeline,Weller  haircut,Pucci scarf,etc,etc. and get it "Wrong". I am sure I am in the minority though and have to accept that.As much as I love them,that is probably why my own Half Chelsea's see so little wear,as I only wear them with specific jeans or trousers that could never be pinpointed as particularly Mod,from that period,or worn in a Mod style.That's not who I am or want to be perceived as,so it's more difficult to fit them into my regular wear.

At no time before have I ever worn that style.The closest would have been  my Jodphurs,but that in reality is a very different boot from  the skinhead era

Though it brings a nostalgic smile to my face,most of "Mod" as I recognize it Pre ' 67,does nothing to attract me.It appears very dated today and can only be worn convinceingly by very,very few older blokes.

Birds are another story:)

 

Post '67 Mod IMO is another story......but that's just my own opinion and based upon how little i am aware of what came before that point. 

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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post
 

Funny that, I have been looking for about 10 years for a pair of Jodhpurs boots to match the ones I bought from an equestrian shop in Elm Park in 67/68. Plenty of boots around but nothing to match the slightly rounded toe of my original boots. The search continues.

I saw some jodhpur boots on e bay....Sanders jodhpur boots...I just had a look the seller is britishbrogues,various sizes in black or brown ( new ),I don't know if that's the shape you are looking for.

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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post
 


I just assumed it was recently written. If he is 56/57 that would make it believable but even then he must have been ahead of the game in his own peer group. It would be a bit like me claiming to be a London Mod. I know the clothes details , where they went and what they did from my cousins, who were Mods, but it would be stretching the truth to claim I was there.

His story rings true to my experience.The two smartest lads I ever met came from there (a year and two older).His life contradicts mine re:the violence though,but I do not doubt him,as I witnessed first hand how nasty Leicester lads can be.

Regarding his age,it's not that unusual IMO.Here is a pice from Chris Browns book posted very early in this Forum

 

"Iain McKell, the well-known fashion photographer who learnt his trade back in the 70s and 80s through shooting skinheads and new romantics and who photographed Madonna for her first magazine cover recalls: 'I remember skinheads the first time round, in 1969, when it was really hardcore. I must have been 12, 13 and I was in a cafe in Bristol when this bloke walked in, hair cropped, wearing a Ben Sherman shirt, braces, Levi's and DM boots. Then another one, and another one. And I thought hang on a minute, there's something going on here, this is a scene, there's some kind of code. And in those days it was shocking to see something like that.' A public schoolboy with working-class parents from Weymouth, McKell was awestruck by the skinheads' defiance and aggression, it wasn't long before he wanted to be part of this 'scene' - 'This big firm of lairy skinheads would stand behind the goal at Bristol City's ground [no accounting for taste], so one day I joined them, just to experience this feeling, this roar - they'd bang their boots against the corrugated tin wall behind them, then they'd surge forward in this big wave.' 'Defiance and aggression' - it's easy to see how the movement roared through Britain in the summer of 1969, a bit like Concorde had done so in the April on its maiden flight - from Filton, Bristol for the record."

 

Lattsye has also commented that down at Chelsea "We was boys fighting men!"

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