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Yeah I know,I had a red one in 71.Still ,I never saw a tie with one the way you describe?

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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

I have to say that it was more a widespread fashion here than a one off,some lads wore red shirts with a plain white tie,as I said I dont like white ties anyway but thats a personal choice.

I think that a black shirt would look ok with the right coloured suit,again personal choice,I just think that its a bit difficult to get a tie to fit in.

I think black shirts are very hard to work with.  I've had a few over the years but do struggle to match them up with other stuff.  There was of course the black-on-black look developed in the 80s by Comme des Garcons and others.

 

The only one I wear now is 'nearly black' and has an almost sheer look - ok in summer with lighter trousers:

 

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I think black shirts are very hard to work with.  I've had a few over the years but do struggle to match them up with other stuff.  There was of course the black-on-black look developed in the 80s by Comme des Garcons and others.

 

The only one I wear now is 'nearly black' and has an almost sheer look - ok in summer with lighter trousers:

 

Looks good to me,I wear a black shirt with POW check trousers and black shoes.

I had a navy Ben Sherman in 71,I wasnt allowed to have a black one and red was out of the question for us,now i would quite like the black version of that shirt.

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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post

 

Yeah I know,I had a red one in 71.Still ,I never saw a tie with one the way you describe?





You didnt miss anything,it wasnt a great look IMO.

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I think black shirts are very hard to work with.  I've had a few over the years but do struggle to match them up with other stuff.  There was of course the black-on-black look developed in the 80s by Comme des Garcons and others.

It became a standing joke in New York that all the people who began to wear the ubiquitous Black-on-Black look in Manhattan at the w/e were the Bridge & Tunnel crowd from  the suburbs.....and so it died.

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It became a standing joke in New York that all the people who began to wear the ubiquitous Black-on-Black look in Manhattan at the w/e were the Bridge & Tunnel crowd from  the suburbs.....and so it died.

I should think it would be hard to pull it off successfully - you needed a certain complexion and a lot of confidence.  Some still try, of course, I saw a girl in Sorrento last spring who did manage it but it's effectively dead now.....

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Do you think that's a dog ear collar shirt he's wearing?

Nope, he's assured me it was a BD Ben Sherman, but why he had the collar outside of the jumper he has no idea - confirmation of date, 1970, a year after he joined as a boy soldier age 15, so he's 16 in this photo (that's a squaddie hair cut he's got). Photo taken at Deep Cut Barracks in Surrey.

He apologizes for not being quite on the money with the fashion and for having the temerity to buy an off the peg suit jacket with wide lapels but he was only on £3 a week. He thinks the rest of the ensemble was two tone Levi Tonics and definitely tassled loafers but denies ever being a skinhead and only wearing boots when he was in uniform.
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Years later,in the 80-90's I would see Carnaby Street window interpretations of Mod with black shirts and Dogstooth/POW/Seagulls Eye etc ,but it just didn't ring true to me.It had that two-tone/gangster on- the- cheap look.Polyester suits and a sovereign ring.No substance,no style.

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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post
 

I should think it would be hard to pull it off successfully - you needed a certain complexion and a lot of confidence.  Some still try, of course, I saw a girl in Sorrento last spring who did manage it but it's effectively dead now.....

I also saw a girl ( an Italian ) who looked great in black in Trieste,very simple but great style IMO,I even forgave her for wearing her sunglasses on top of  her head.


Edited by cerneabbas - 10/21/13 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post
 

Years later,in the 80-90's I would see Carnaby Street window interpretations of Mod with black shirts and Dogstooth/POW/Seagulls Eye etc ,but it just didn't ring true to me.It had that two-tone/gangster on- the- cheap look.Polyester suits and a sovereign ring.No substance,no style.

Now,I have got an admission to make having read your post,I don't normally buy anything with very much polyester content if I can help it but earlier this year I saw some POW check trousers in Next,a shop that I very rarely enter...these trousers are a wool / polyester mix however they are a lovely pale grey with a defined pattern and a pale blue overcheck...I waited until the sale and bought them ( because they weren't worth the original price IMO ).

On Saturday I wore these trousers out with a black Hugo Boss shirt ( similar to a John Smedley in style ) and my black Loake brogue boots ( no sovereign ring as I am not into jewellery ),I thought that I looked quite good and as people weren't pointing me out and laughing I had believed that all was ok,I now realise that everyone who saw me was actually cringing with embarrassment at my lack of substance and style.

I will be wearing that trousers and shirt combination again though as I like it,but I will replacing the trousers when I find a pair of wool POW trousers that have such a nice colour and check.

You may prefer bright colours to black or grey but that is just your personal choice,I happen to agree with you about the stuff in Carnaby Street back then and also about sovereign rings but that is also personal choice.

BTW,I have just realised that this is one black shirt debate that I don't mind being part of on here,in fact I am interested to see other peoples opinions on them.


Edited by cerneabbas - 10/21/13 at 8:49am
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I personally like a black button-down short sleeved shirt with jeans and boots, or crisp contrasting colored chinos and black brogues. The black shirt/white tie combo, however, to me, screams Al Capone or Father O'Malley.
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I personally like a black button-down short sleeved shirt with jeans and boots, or crisp contrasting colored chinos and black brogues. The black shirt/white tie combo, however, to me, screams Al Capone or Father O'Malley.

Peter Sellers in Revenge of the Pink Panther. That's what I always think of when I see that look.

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I personally like a black button-down short sleeved shirt with jeans and boots, or crisp contrasting colored chinos and black brogues. The black shirt/white tie combo, however, to me, screams Al Capone or Father O'Malley.

What about spectator brogues ?

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What about spectator brogues ?

 

 

Hahaha, nah I think I'll pass on those bad-larrys!

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Peter Sellers in Revenge of the Pink Panther. That's what I always think of when I see that look.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh big-time.  It also reminds me of when some of my sartorially less-tasteful friends get gussied up to take their wives out.  Yeesh!

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