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post #15196 of 18453
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Originally Posted by roytonboy View Post
 

cerneabbas - I got this from the Bluemoon web-site re: Kippax Debbie

 

"Kippax Debbie was  puzzling, a stunning looking angelic blonde girl............. To me it was obvious she was a boy trapped in a stunning girl's body and resented it. All the stories about her fighting and ability to take on grown men are true. I saw her deck men often, almost as if she had a point to prove. As she got older she became more stunning and was attracting the attention of lots of Blues............ she went out for drinks and that but come Saturdays that was all forgotten and it was back to 'Kippax Debbie'

 

She tried to kill herself twice before eventually jumping off a motorway bridge and dying. She was not in her forties but in her early to mid twenties - we never could find out her true age".

 

 

"Sad story BU. I remember Deb well, especially when she was hunting reds in the Kippax on Derby day, Like you say, good looking girl too.

 

 

"She loved Derby day, as did her brother Tony. Seen Debs walk the whole length of Warwick Road at the swamp (i.e Old Trafford) early 80's with a silk City scarf tied around her head like a bandana and no amount of abuse stopped her."

 

 

Not conclusive on the age thing, but I think she was a little young for the skinhead era.

 

I think that you are right she probably was too young,quite a sad story really.

Interesting to see Old Trafford called the swamp,was that because the pitch was so muddy ? I do remember seeing it muddy on tv but quite a few were like that back then,Derby for one.

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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

For the international audience, the BBC documentary "Northern soul - keep the faith" is now on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtaEASd2LI

Around 8:00 they're looking at some photos from Wigan and they presenter says, "You can see the mod influence," and all I see are what I think of as skinhead girls. Yes, I know I may be splitting hairs, but it's a good hair to split. smile.gif
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Edited by harrysgame - 9/27/13 at 4:02pm
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post #15200 of 18453
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

For the international audience, the BBC documentary "Northern soul - keep the faith" is now on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtaEASd2LI


Yesssssss. Thank you.
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Edited by harrysgame - 9/27/13 at 4:00pm
post #15202 of 18453
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post

there's nothing revisionist about it.Contempo existed on Hanaway St ,off Tottenham ct rd.Godin wrote a column in Blues and Soul during that time ,before handing over to Frank Elson.We are talking about obscure black (not exclusively) music played North of the Watford Gap.To be honest the kids up North couldn't give a fuck if it was music from Alabama or Arkansas as long as it had the right tempo and they could dance to it.

Not doubting that he thought the name up. But that genre of music has been played in clubs long before he coined that frase.
In 1963 there was a Soul do on at Wilby in Northants, The Shades Club in Northampton also played the same style of music that was later named Northern Soul. Northamptonshire had a very big Soul Scene in those days and still does.
post #15203 of 18453
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post


Not doubting that he thought the name up. But that genre of music has been played in clubs long before he coined that frase.
 

I think we have all agreed on that? It was played from Torquay to Dundee.

BTW anyone got any info on the Cali' in Dunstable?

I believe there were a regular crew who travelled far and wide back then.

post #15204 of 18453
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

I think that you are right she probably was too young,quite a sad story really.
Interesting to see Old Trafford called the swamp,was that because the pitch was so muddy ? I do remember seeing it muddy on tv but quite a few were like that back then,Derby for one.

That's right - as the stands got built up higher and higher there was less and less sunlight on the pitch so less grass would grow.

Derby was even worse. I remember seeing City there in about 76 and it was like Blackpool beach they'd put so much sand on to soak up the mud.
post #15205 of 18453
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

When i was a kid, i was fascinated by David Bowie, T.Rex, and Roxy music. My older brother and sister was listening to them. I had no clue then and didn't knew Bowie, Bolan, and Brian Ferry were former mods. I didn't knew either that Glam was some sort of a last evolution for former skinheads. And when i saw skinheads in England in 1979, i said at least this is new ! This is the look of my generation. As i already said, not being English, i only discoverered later that skinhead originated in 1969. Anyway, From 1979 on there was no turning back, i could not stand anymore the look of my former Glam heroes. Cut my hairs, change my clothes. 
But finally, as i evolved to a smarter look, at the same time that i discovered Trojan records, i have to admit today that the suedehead look is far less provocative/innovative than the (bad taste) Glam look. And i totally agree with Gsvs5 when he states:"Mod/ Skin/Suede was not really that different from menswear as we had traditionally seen for many years before" and with Cerneabbas when he says: " well I think that as a style (skinhead/suedehead)  it was a teenage thing, but as I have said many times on here there are many items that I do/can wear."

Any idea of who is this Bowie fan, on a 1973 photo ?

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post #15206 of 18453
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Originally Posted by elwood View Post


That's right - as the stands got built up higher and higher there was less and less sunlight on the pitch so less grass would grow.

Derby was even worse. I remember seeing City there in about 76 and it was like Blackpool beach they'd put so much sand on to soak up the mud.

I went to see Swindon v Leeds in 1970 its on youtube,so muddy and that wasnt unusual,the funny thing is I preferred the football then,i also enjoyed the terraces,you could wander around and talk to different people,its a bit like the cinema now ( not that I go anymore).

A lad I was talking to told me that he had lost his shoe in the mud at Derby,when they invaded the pitch after a game.

post #15207 of 18453
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Originally Posted by stilts121 View Post


Around 8:00 they're looking at some photos from Wigan and they presenter says, "You can see the mod influence," and all I see are what I think of as skinhead girls. Yes, I know I may be splitting hairs, but it's a good hair to split. smile.gif

 

The pictures of those girls are on this thread,wearing suits and gingham shirts,the problem is with the Mod comment being made on tv is that thousands of people will swear that they are Mods and not Skinhead girls and so things get a bit more blurred.

post #15208 of 18453
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post

When I saw the shot of the guy walking into the club,all I kept thinking about was Jimmy Clitheroe,an old man in kids clothes.

He came across a bit more like Alfie. biggrin.gif
post #15209 of 18453

Saw a bloke ( in his early 60s I think ) wearing a suede Harrington today,i cant remember seeing one before,it was a golden brown colour,just had a plain back ( no "scallops" or whatever you want to call those bits ),I thought that it looked ok although I don't think that I would wear one.

post #15210 of 18453

Something like that ?

Looks quite good, but i wouln't wear one too.

I had plain blue, red, and black in the time. Cheap versions.

i've got a black Baracuta now. (Bought before the price became insane.)

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