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So was (Northern) Soul a big thing during Suedehead years oop North or were these scenes completely separate?  It's been almost 1,000 pages and I've read 'em all but I just can't remember if it's been discussed.  

post #14987 of 18543

Oh boy, do I get a Bozo Badge?!?!

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From my experience at the time, dont think that was the case, certainly around where I lived. The sticksman look was in Dalston and Stokey, certainly wasnt copied by those in the Angel, Shoreditch, Hoxton, drinking in Hackney Road and Bethnal Green - and not much mixing socially. I'd agree that later some of the clothing such as gabicci and farah overlapped but not to all - personally thought that was a crap look and went for the Ball and C17 trousers and Bleached Lois and Lacoste, Boss and Ellesse, along with Burberry and Aquascutuum. And the burberry and aquascutum going the other way  to the sticksman.    The whole of the lacoste, kickers, adiddas look was well entrenched in the mid 70s amongst my mates, the influence of tennis etc I think has been downplayed eg Borg as a cultural icon and hence Fila and then diadora.

 

Think it was all dependant on an number of factors...from football casuals to the blokes in the pub and to where you lived. Even at football you could see a real mix of styles within 'casual' from an almost mod look with lacoste polos and lois jeans to the start of the baggy look to downright scruffy mugs - agree that the downfall was that the label meant everything, there was some right old crap! Theres a whole mythology grown up around casual and its origins

 

sticksman look was at least 3 years before ' Casual ' though . The Reggae look incoprprated Burberry trenchcoats long before the football lot got involved 

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Time for a drink all 'round I think:)
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I think you could well be right mate.if I came here for the first time today and saw talk of Farrah's and Gabicci,I may well have never come back?

I hope you do come back, i've enjoyed your posts.

Unless the spectrum for whats discussed in depth is broadened then it will just go round in circles all the time, thats fine in little spurts.

Theres that little period, suede into smooth, which always gets passed over, beagles, ruperts, stacks etc, tbh most on here think it's shit, or never wore it, as far as im concerned that dont mean it's not relevant.

The fairly recent pic of Kevin Keegan, Shanks looked smart enough, but then so did me gramps at that time.

Apparantly Keegan looked, rubbish, not cool and gay, ffs.

Not having a pop at any one person, just me thoughts, did i mention i've got toothache

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Time for a drink all 'round I think:)

Mines a pint, TCP please

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Them beagle collars and ruperts, etc., was such a strange look.  I guess one-upmanship can and does get taken too far.  After a MTM suit with 6 ticket pockets on either side, looking like gills, and a 16" center vent(!!!), I suppose you HAVE to just head out to left field fashion-wise, and Smooths was the result, at least while it lasted and the fellas moved on...  

  

Well, off to get a beer with the boys at the Paradise and see the reincarnated (Black)Flag.  Happy 1,000th page everybody.

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Edited by Sirryacus - 9/20/13 at 4:17pm
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Them beagle collars and ruperts, etc., was such a strange look.  I guess one-upmanship can and does get taken too far.  After a MTM suit with 6 ticket pockets on either side, looking like gills, and a 16" center vent(!!!), I suppose you HAVE to just head out to left field fashion-wise, and Smooths was the result, at least while it lasted and the fellas moved on...  

  

Well, off to get a beer with the boys at the Paradise and see the reincarnated (Black)Flag.  Happy 1,000th page everybody.

Bingo.

As far as clothes go, from a design point of view theres a saturation point and you can go no further.

Usually this means, complete reversal to something thats been done yrs previous, or designing/wearing something completely new, thats a tough one imo.

General fashion over the past ??? years is a good example of this.

Now im waffling on about shit! tablets and alcohol, Groovy

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A Thousand pages well done everyone,smile.gif
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Did many of the original Skins that later adopted the Suedehead style come back to the Trad Skin style with the second wave of Skins in the late 70s ? I'm only 45, but I remember a lot of older Skins well into their 20s back in the late 70s that obviously weren't new Skins. Or were they probably blokes that were Suedeheads first that later adopted the earlier Trad look after everything started getting a bit flarey ?

Suedehead has always seen a bit transitional. The bits I like from Suedehead style are the bits carried over from Hard Mods and Skins, I can't get on with the Ruperts, tank tops and some of the shoes.

Like I said, I was pretty young during the second wave, went on to Mod. Losing my hair at 19 didn't help. I found myself having to adopt the Ivy look as anything Trad made me look like a rabid pit-bull. Being a dead-ringer for a certain Mr.Courtney doesn't help.

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Hooray!!! Here is a tune by Bobby Patterson "What's Your Problem Baby?" It appeared on a CD comp a few years ago but otherwise hard to get(it's his rarest 45) 

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forgive the ignorance, but what is "sticksman"?

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Wiki is full of revisionist history.It would appear that Lou Reed has successfully erased his Birth Name(it's not REED,I believe it was Furnham)And every other website has followed suit.I'm saying it was originally called Northern Soul referring to Northern Cities in the US,and then used to refer to the Northern English cities which liked it.It's not a real movement or Genre of it's own.These were records made in the most contrived way to get some of that cash off the white kids who liked Motown but most often failed.It was motivated by one- upsmanship of the dreaded "record collectors" a group of folks so cynical they don't even care about music they just care about owning an item no one else has.

Thing with the Wiki, can always check the revision history and see every page as it was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lou_Reed&oldid=303220 Lou Reed 02:48, 26 June 2002

I got the idea that Lewis Allan Reed really was his birth name. And the "Firbanks" thing was an urban legend or a joke.
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Thing with the Wiki, can always check the revision history and see every page as it was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lou_Reed&oldid=303220 Lou Reed 02:48, 26 June 2002

I got the idea that Lewis Allan Reed really was his birth name. And the "Firbanks" thing was an urban legend or a joke.

 

Thats it Firbanks.I read in the past it was his real name and Reed was a stage name.See the confusion.Not important just surprised.

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