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post #14911 of 18562
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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post

Speaking about them Church's Grafton brogues a few pages back got me curious. Got a wedding coming up so ha! Perfect excuse to nab a pair. went to the local Bloomingdale's and they had them on sale. I got them in the burgundy calf leather. Absolutely unbelievable fit, cut, and finish. I dare say if they were cordovan they'd trump those Alden longwings I speak so highly of.
Like buttah...

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Note: in the pic the left one looks sort of too big, but they fit a treat.

 

Botolph...I don't think that you need much of an excuse to buy new brogues !...yes well made shoes I saw their plain Shannon last week and a similar pair with toe caps,very heavy they looked awesome.

post #14912 of 18562
To my mind "Casuals" only followed what the Black Youth of the mid 70s were wearing,and like the Skinheads took it further,I remember the White Addidas T- Shirts that they wore and I remember the various Trainers that were becoming popular among the Black Crowd-alongside striped Tracksuit bottoms that were left slightly unzipped, so that you had a split over the shoe.Like"Casuals" there was not one real Music as such,as the Youth either listened to "Roots" or "Funk".So when anybody says to me "Casuals" started here or there,I will say no it did not-look at the Black areas first.
post #14913 of 18562
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

To my mind "Casuals" only followed what the Black Youth of the mid 70s were wearing,and like the Skinheads took it further,I remember the White Addidas T- Shirts that they wore and I remember the various Trainers that were becoming popular among the Black Crowd-alongside striped Tracksuit bottoms that were left slightly unzipped, so that you had a split over the shoe.Like"Casuals" there was not one real Music as such,as the Youth either listened to "Roots" or "Funk".So when anybody says to me "Casuals" started here or there,I will say no it did not-look at the Black areas first.

 

I don't remember it like that,definitely not here....if you look at the St Pauls riots you wont see any youths dressed like casuals.

Black blokes were not seen as fashion icons then,in fact where you had previously seen smartly dressed black men,except for the gospel people they had got much less well dressed IMO.

I never saw black blokes wearing Pringles,Lois jeans etc,even the trainers they wore were different to the casuals.

I never remember seeing many black blokes dressed skinhead style either,Dr Martens,brogues,crombies were what white lads wore....I am only speaking about what I saw here....

post #14914 of 18562
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Originally Posted by flyfronted View Post

we are better than the rest ..  its the natural order .
Oh, my aching sides!!! happy.gif
post #14915 of 18562
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

To my mind "Casuals" only followed what the Black Youth of the mid 70s were wearing,and like the Skinheads took it further,I remember the White Addidas T- Shirts that they wore and I remember the various Trainers that were becoming popular among the Black Crowd-alongside striped Tracksuit bottoms that were left slightly unzipped, so that you had a split over the shoe.Like"Casuals" there was not one real Music as such,as the Youth either listened to "Roots" or "Funk".So when anybody says to me "Casuals" started here or there,I will say no it did not-look at the Black areas first.

 

in London thats pretty much how it was - however your missing the white london  crimminal fraternity they rocked that look before the black kids ( copied from NY )

post #14916 of 18562
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Originally Posted by con man View Post
 

 

No Midlands, no North West or North East- no industrial revolution, no shipbuilding, no cotton mills = no Teds, no Mods, no Skinheads, plus more importantly no Great Britain

 

straws and clutching mate . Every look worth wearing started in London .

post #14917 of 18562
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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post

Speaking about them Church's Grafton brogues a few pages back got me curious. Got a wedding coming up so ha! Perfect excuse to nab a pair. went to the local Bloomingdale's and they had them on sale. I got them in the burgundy calf leather. Absolutely unbelievable fit, cut, and finish. I dare say if they were cordovan they'd trump those Alden longwings I speak so highly of.
Like buttah...

7A974139-00C3-4CE3-90BF-A5B558599559-2763-000002F56C4F07DD_zps1b5c3290.jpg

Note: in the pic the left one looks sort of too big, but they fit a treat.

 

Really nice look those Church shoes - last you a lifetime

post #14918 of 18562
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post


Oh, my aching sides!!! happy.gif

 

i never made the rules Ed .

post #14919 of 18562
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

I don't remember it like that,definitely not here....if you look at the St Pauls riots you wont see any youths dressed like casuals.
Black blokes were not seen as fashion icons then,in fact where you had previously seen smartly dressed black men,except for the gospel people they had got much less well dressed IMO.
I never saw black blokes wearing Pringles,Lois jeans etc,even the trainers they wore were different to the casuals.
I never remember seeing many black blokes dressed skinhead style either,Dr Martens,brogues,crombies were what white lads wore....I am only speaking about what I saw here....

I do not know about Bristol but there were smart Fellas about,I am sure.Gabicci was the start.

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Originally Posted by flyfronted View Post

in London thats pretty much how it was - however your missing the white london  crimminal fraternity they rocked that look before the black kids ( copied from NY )

Yes I am remembering around Stratford,Forest Gate etc.During the 70s I used to hang about with some smart fellas.As with the other-only passing by.smile.gif
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i never made the rules Ed .
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post #14921 of 18562
It's probably been mentioned on here before but Paulo Hewitt wrote a book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Fashion-Football-Beckham-Label/dp/1840188073/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379671865&sr=8-1&keywords=the+fashion+of+football) where he goes into some detail about the disputed origins of 'casual' style and the London look Browniecj is describing (and its links to the reggae 'sticksman' style) get discussed there.

Back on topic - it also discusses mod and original skinhead via an interview with spurs fan Keith Palmer (who was one of Sammy Skyes lieutenants back then I think - queue rolling of eyes and trotting out of songs from the Chelsea contingent!) - its out of print now and pricey but i noticed theres a cheap kindle version (presumably without the pictures).

edit: might actually be 'Soul Stylists' where the origins of casual are disputed. Cant remember now....
Edited by Studio1st - 9/20/13 at 3:46am
post #14922 of 18562
Not clutching at straws mate, the history books tell it how it is, where as, where a fashion started can be disputed.....and like I have said before the chances of most fashions starting in London, is very likely, but its not nessarily proven.... and you say every fashion worth wearing...but I ask again, what about New Romantics, I take it Londoners are disowning that one haha!!
Edited by con man - 9/20/13 at 4:05am
post #14923 of 18562
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Sorry, 'earlier' is a better choice of word than 'early'. A case in point is 'A Little Misunderstanding' by the Contours - a great disc from 1966 we danced to at the
Blackpool Mecca before the term 'Northern Soul' was first used.
No argument from me, Arabia by The Delcos, is a fine tune and a Northern track and was produced in 1965, now I don't know, but I can imagine that was played out, well before the term Northern Soul came about, but on the flip side of the coin, what about.... I'm coming home in the morning, by Lou Pride, that was from 1970
post #14924 of 18562
Plus, you say Blackpool Mecca, but isn't that the point....these tunes were being played out at Northern clubs and not nessarily in London, hence the term Northern Soul
post #14925 of 18562
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It's the natural order of things ........

 

Yep, can't deny that -

 
The Beatles, Gerry and the Pacemakers, The Searchers, The Fourmost - all part of that famous "Thamesbeat" that took the world by storm.
 
The famous Twisted Wheel Club in Morden that started the then embryonic "Northwood Soul" sound.
 
USA Billboard Magazine "Best Nightclub in the World" award of 1977 awarded, of course, to Woodford Casino for developing the "Northwood Soul" sound and style which swept the country.

 

 Who can deny the influence of Croydon based band The Specials and the Two -Tone label which helped promote the Mod and Skinhead revivals of the late 70's and early 80's?

 

And of course the Stone Roses, New Order, Joy Division and the Happy Mondays (and ultimately, Oasis) were all "Mad for it" in Mitcham's Hacienda Club.

 

Thank God for London, where would the British Music and fashion scene be without it...............


Edited by roytonboy - 9/20/13 at 6:09am
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