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post #14626 of 18915
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

You know M-o-M you were pretty lucky moving about the different Manors.Sometimes you could walk 1/2 mile along the road and you were in trouble(especially if you were seen with a local Girl).smile.gif

Don't I know it! I think I just brazened it out, didn't throw my weight about, acted like I was entitled to be there but didn't own the manor, if you see what I mean. I only once got in a bit of bother and I faced that down (I was sweating a bit, thought, I can tell you!).

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Now I come to think of it, there were a couple of good reasons why this happened.Firstly, in S E London there was only one big dance hall, the Savoy in Catford. It attracted youngsters from all over the place, from the N Kent suburbs to the docks. The result was you got to know people from all different manors south of the river, and if you went from place to place chances are you would know someone. Secondly, on a number of occasions I would meet people (like that girl) 'up West', or somewhere like Hyde Park, all of which was kind of neutral territory. Occasionally I would get invited to go to a club or somewhere north of the river. Again, knowing someone got you tolerated, so long as you didn't 'come it'.
Edited by Man-of-Mystery - 9/10/13 at 10:13pm
post #14627 of 18915
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Back then Con man people did not walk around with a big fcuk off camera in the back pocket....

Exactly!
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Originally Posted by con man View Post

One thing, I do know what camera me dad had, like you say they were expensive, so he didn't just through it away after a couple of uses in 1969 now did he, had it for a few years after.

I had a Kodak Brownie 44B. It sure as hell wouldn't fit in my pocket, and I sure as hell didn't take it to the Savoy Rooms with me!
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I had a thought about photos from that period,what we have forgotten is how big newspapers were back then compared to now,there were a lot more local newspapers then and they would have all had photographers.

I wouldn't mind betting that the photo at Weston station was taken by a local newspaper photographer,they would have been at seaside resorts on bank holidays and they were at the football matches anyway.

That would explain why some are good quality,that one on Weston sea front is a pretty good one IMO.

 

I do like the dark shirt with the suit and tie,i looked at a navy button down in Charles Tyrwhitt yesterday it reminded me of the Ben Sherman that I had in 70 or 71.

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Was just wondering; Parkas, was that a mod only thing or did was it worn by skinheads/suedeheads? I'm sure it has been mentioned but i cant seem to find it.
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Lerk,Look on youtube Hereford v Newcastle FA cup 1972 ( its only 45 seconds ) and you will see how popular and mainstream parkas had become,i can remember seeing young skinheads wearing them 70/71 ( even to school) one kid in my class used to wear his older brothers fishtail one,most had cr#p copies from the market etc.

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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

Why are all these photos going to turn up ? after people have died they just get binned,i haven't got many photos of me over the years,i just don't keep all that stuff...I had my picture on the front of the paper at football and I haven't even kept the copy...

One other thing,i do have one photo of me mid 70s at football,monkey boots,wranglers with turn ups,suede bomber jacket and a scarf, am I going to put it up on the internet ? am I fcuk..I don't want my picture stuck on some weirdos bog door !

Well, i agree with you, that's why i'm not on Facebook or whatever else. Don't want to show my (angel) face on the net.

About cameras and pictures, i remember my father had an instamatic, but it was mainly for family events.

In the beginning of the eighties, me and my friends didn't took any photos. We had no cameras, and to be true didn't give a f... about it.

I've got two pictures of me at the time though. But i moved a few years ago and i don't know where they are. One is a "photomaton", the other one a school picture. Bit scruffy. Cheap harrington, jeans, earrings (had two in my left ear.) It's true that today i'd like to have more pictures of the time.


Edited by Clouseau - 9/11/13 at 2:22am
post #14633 of 18915
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Originally Posted by con man View Post

One thing, I do know what camera me dad had, like you say they were expensive, so he didn't just through it away after a couple of uses in 1969 now did he, had it for a few years after.
let's get another thing straight when the hell have I said, I knew what the fcuk, what was going on in Skinhead circles back then.
Just asking, if you lot were wearing all this fantastic clobber back then, I would have thought you might have some photos of it, that's all.
If you think I'm wind up merchant, then tough shit!!
If I have ruffled your feathers by starting a bit of a debate, seriously, there's no need to through your dummies out of the pram.
And I ain't no johnny come lately either, I got into it in 1979 and apart from 5 years between 88 and 93, have kept my hair cropped and wore the clothes and gone gigs and skinhead reggae/ska , northern soul and mod do's and still do, In fact was at one just last weekend, sounds and pressure in Nottingham, if you want to know my credentials ask anyone who knows me, my name is Conrad.
And Roy, you ain't sussed me!!!

I did not suss it was you Conrad..but I am not surprised,smile.gif
If you look back over this thread which is approaching a thousand pages you will see now and again people come on here, they either have a agenda, or are upset what someone has said...or just come on here to throw in a hand grenade to see what the fallout will be....I just don't know. or maybe people have miss read or miss understood whats been written.

But one has to be reminded this thread is about Skinheads from 1968 to about 71...a very short time, Now i know some of the later skinheads 79/80s was skinheads by choice and not fashion like the originals....also as we know their is a few of the 80s skinheads who have made it a way of life...like a religion....and take it far more serious than the originals...and i have total respect for them..as i have got to know many of them.

If people came on here you have to accept its about the 60s....only if you lived through those times can you ever understand it...only ten to twelve years later Britain was a totally different place...its no good saying my older brother or my uncle told me this or that....Also many original skinheads now contribute on this thread..and for many of us old farts...its a chance to reminisce....sorry if we go on a bit,smile.gif

I stopped posting on here for a while as i thought the thread had run its course and. I had run out of things to say...then i started to check in and see some of the great stuff being written by Gsvs5 and Cerneabbs, Aces and Eights, and others ..talking about stuff that i had long forgotten..or was unaware of.....All the people that have contributed should be proud ...what started off about two years of skinheads have become a social history of the 60s/early 70s.
May it long continue.
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Gsvs5, that is a great photo, wouldn't mind a copy of that book.
There is a bi monthly club called Nu Beat in Manchester, that plays stuff they played at the Wheel, it has risen from The Hideway Club, but I hear that is starting again.
As for the black shirt, you could well be right, there are no photos to follow from haha!!
Personaly I wear, what I feel comfortable in, not what was worn back then and I would probably get slated for the covered buttons to, I love the whole suited part of Mod and early Skinheads, but don't feel I need to follow it to the letter, like a member of a re-enactment society.
Going to a wedding soon and was thinking of purchasing a PoW check suit and red button down shirt, was thinking of black tie, but not sure, anyway was thinking of Adam of London, off the peg, cant afford, Bespoke. Anyone got anythin from them....any good or bad?
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As much as you guys said you didn't like pictures or video taken back then are you some what glad now in retrospect that friends and the media had taken such documentation?

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Originally Posted by con man View Post

As for the black shirt, you could well be right, there are no photos to follow from haha!!
Personaly I wear, what I feel comfortable in, not what was worn back then and I would probably get slated for the covered buttons to, I love the whole suited part of Mod and early Skinheads, but don't feel I need to follow it to the letter, like a member of a re-enactment society.

It's funny how I can be critical when I see things as not the way I remember them in the late sixties as to me that is the only way it should be- the "Blueprint" as it were.
Of course I stopped dressing like that in the early 70's and moved on to something new and fresh.Today ,as I see myself wearing some of the kit from back then,I have to believe that I can carry it off without looking foolish,so I pick and choose wisely (hopefully!)
Maybe people of your age and younger will be critical of the way I wear my clothes now as it is different to your generation?
With most of the gear it could be worn in different ways,with different attitudes to signify how you interpreted it.....Ivy,Skinhead,Mod etc.
To my eyes,every post sixties skinhead seemed to wear everything about two sizes too small for them !
Covered suit buttons were before my time and something I associate with Teds more than anything else,even though I know Mods had them also.When I look back things seemed to move on quickly for those few important years,and when it was exhausted it died and changed completely.So for anyone who was around at that time and for every generation to follow there is a legacy and a back catalog to plunder and do as they choose.Some of it hurts my eyes and some of it brings back so many happy memories that I had long forgotten.The fact that it is taken so seriously,to me,is endearing.That's why I can still take the piss out of the stance of a suit ticket pocket,and a younger lad can ridicule my grey hair.There is no hiding place.
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Con man, you're picture reminds me of this one. :) 

 

post #14638 of 18915
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Originally Posted by Lerk View Post

Was just wondering; Parkas, was that a mod only thing or did was it worn by skinheads/suedeheads? I'm sure it has been mentioned but i cant seem to find it.

 

Think your find that Parkas were only worn by Mods who rode scooters in order to keep there whistles clean and dry . It was only the revivalists who took to walking around in them without having a scooter .. the schoolboy parkas were snorkle parkas cheap coats from markets and not the same as fishtale parkas worn in the 60s . 

post #14639 of 18915
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Originally Posted by Sirryacus View Post

As much as you guys said you didn't like pictures or video taken back then are you some what glad now in retrospect that friends and the media had taken such documentation?

I didn't say i disliked my photo taken and regret that i have none of me 68/70...I also very much regret not putting myself in the Kilburn Documentary...I passed that little clip that is left .. onto the lads and girls who are still here and they love it....They are lucky that those images will last for ever.smile.gif
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Clouseau, dont know if you are taking the piss with that picture....what are you saying, that I look like some kind of physcopath?haha!!!
I dont mind if you are taking the piss, I like a bit of banter!!!
Funny thing is, my dad always tells me, how people used to say, that he looked like Robert Mitchum, when he was younger
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