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Don't know if anyone has seen this video before... British Skinheads - Spirit Of 69 Trojan

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/qIXWGCqBt14/
Just came across it on the Chinese video site, Tudou.
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

Don't know if anyone has seen this video before... British Skinheads - Spirit Of 69 Trojan

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/qIXWGCqBt14/
Just came across it on the Chinese video site, Tudou.

It comes under numerous titles on youtube.

Thanks Buttons-I think!!!rolleyes.gif
post #13983 of 19333
I met Bob Hoskins,he is certainly not like characters he portrays.Very friendly,introduced us to his Family-when they travelled through London City Airport.
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It comes under numerous titles on youtube.

Thanks Buttons-I think!!!rolleyes.gif

 

It seems like a smattering of the 1969 bbc skinhead documentary with some pictures tacked on at the last few seconds.

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another fb find:

THE BOYS FROM NORTH SHIELDS,,,1972....
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ek77. They must have been trendsetters ( for up that way ) to have been wearing that in 72 IMO,i remember seeing football fans from up that way 15 years later in a motorway service station wearing the same gear ( maybe their coach had broken down there in 72 ? ).They seem slow to get into a look but then hang on to it for years ( decades ? ) it wouldnt surprise me to go up there now and see someone dressed the same ( haha,i am only joking) or in the future some daft old bugger going down the post office on his Vespa with his zimmer frame tied to the back rest,to get his pension...of course all characters in this post are entirely ficticious and bear no resemblance to anyone on this forum.
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Levi's makes thick "shrink to fit" raw 501 made in Mexico for cheap. Those are light/sky blue, i own a pair and really like the color (special, i know, but the other colors, except black & classic blue, are worse!), quite original. They become (just) a little darker when they have shrink.

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After a good bath biggrin.gif, they fit perfectly... (btw they are of a huge size on this picture, found on eBay)

 

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Edited by Clouseau - 7/28/13 at 9:24am
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Don't know if this question has been asked.Those "Originals"on the thread who were Mods before Skins.How did you become Mods in the first place?clouseau.I've seen(and touched)them in the store.Like the ones I remember from when I was a kid.Don't really like the color.I've seen a grey as well.
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Don't know if this question has been asked.Those "Originals"on the thread who were Mods before Skins.How did you become Mods in the first place?clouseau.I've seen(and touched)them in the store.Like the ones I remember from when I was a kid.Don't really like the color.I've seen a grey as well.

When I was at school(`63 ish)there were two distinct Factions-those who rode Scooters(older boys-15/16)and the others who liked Motorbikes.There always punch-ups in the playground.The next year there were the riots on the Bank-Holidays,quite a few went from school.In `64 I was taken to Carnaby Street where I bought a shirt and a pair of Hipsters.That was it,I liked the buzz of the "Street" and I tried to visit it as soon as I had saved up money.Also there was an older Mod Girl,who worked in a Record Shop,I fancied her like mad.She was about 5 years older than me-no chance......smile.gif
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Was there other shorter lived factions of the standard mod or rocker back then that died off before it hit full stride as in fringe groups who were sort of associated but sort of not.

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Thanks browniecj.So,some older kids who were Mods introduced you?Was there a mutual appreciation that was music based.Did you like the same music as these older folks and thought"These are my People"   Sirryacus asks a good question above.Where did the Beatniks fit into this scene? What were your(or the Mods) impressions of the beatniks.What about the California Surfing scene across the pond(Beach Boys,Dick Dale,Jan and Dean)

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Don't know if this question has been asked.Those "Originals"on the thread who were Mods before Skins.How did you become Mods in the first place?

I think I gave this account before. In the mid 60s I was friendly with the kid next door who was a year, maybe 18 months, older than me. Although he wasn't a mod, most of his mates (one or two years older than me) were, and I really wanted to fit in. But being younger and not able to get hold of the clothes, I was teased a bit by them. But still I wanted to be a mod.

At this time I had the impression that the 'beatniks' were over. Although, having said that, my mate next door was a bit mod/beatnik crossover.

Music. I liked and still like all kinds of music. in the mid 60s I was really 'into' two kinds more than any other. Firstly I loved the surf/hot rod sound. Secondly I loved the music that I picked up from those older mods. It was a kind of mish-mash of British beat groups, American blues and R&B, jazz. Plus in the school I went to there were a lot of guys into soul and Tamla - strange because none of them were mods! Local youth club discos would play lots of black American records, local (white) bands would cover American R&B hits...

When I began to mix with the mod crowd in Blackpool (1967) my real focus on soul began, plus ska. So when I moved to London in 68 it just felt natural to head for the nearest West Indian record shop in search of 'real' black music. That's when/where the late mod to early skinhead thing really began to happen bit by bit, as we have already discussed.

I think I also mentioned earlier in the thread that I was once at a party somewhere in S E London, in the early 70s. I had gone right through skinhead and suedehead and was dressing arty by then. Suddenly I saw this bloke, and I thought to myself, "I recognise him". It turned out to be one of the mates of the kid next door, one of the early mods I had envied, who must have moved down to London too. The thing was, he was dressed exactly as he had been back then - a bit like Brian Jones below, similar hairstyle too. I asked him what kind of music he was into these days, and he said "Early 60s beat groups". He was the only guy I had ever met who had kept on wearing clothes from that era.

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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Thanks browniecj.So,some older kids who were Mods introduced you?Was there a mutual appreciation that was music based.Did you like the same music as these older folks and thought"These are my People"   Sirryacus asks a good question above.Where did the Beatniks fit into this scene? What were your(or the Mods) impressions of the beatniks.What about the California Surfing scene across the pond(Beach Boys,Dick Dale,Jan and Dean)

Yes Yankmod older Mods did introduce me to the Music.As I have written before it was the Youth Club that really kick started me.Older boys would bring their 45s or Albums down,for us to listen to them.To me it was a continuation of listening to my Mum`s Ink Spots and Platters Albums etc.I remember hearing Jan and Dean for the first time and thought"I would love to be in California".To me them and the Beach Boys sounded so fresh.Listen to a Surf Song and then look out and it is pissing down with rain-you will get my drift.
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Never had real contact with Beatniks though,as M.O.M says there were influences on the Mods(Berets etc.).They were the first Hippies-I do remember their marches to Aldermaston

I liked Skiffle and when my elder Sister would buy some of those records,I would sneak up and listen to them.So that was a short term fad(after R&R).
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Going back to Little Queenie's question about dyeing of hair back then, it has reminded of another (short-lived) trend in 1969. I was going out with a girl from Basildon who I met at Ilford Palais. She had short, un-dyed hair as did her friend. But her friend sometimes liked to vary her look by wearing a straight, shoulder length wig in the same dark colour as her own hair. I knew very few girls that did this but I gather it was a trend in some circles. Both my girlfirend and her mate worked in the City. Not sure if it was there that she picked it up. Anyone else recall this?
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Yes,i remember that you had to be very careful when you went out of your own area,there were a lot more kids about then ( baby boom generation) and you had to watch out.When i went to football in the 70s from the moment i left the house until i got home i considered myself at war,in other words anything could happen so be alert.I was talking to some mates once and my son was there,later he said to me that he couldnt believe that we had gone to so much trouble to get to away games for trouble,the thing was it was so natural for us then to do it.Later i went away with England and i was with the blokes that we had been fighting against and i realised that they were mostly good lads,that made me think.They were very different times to now,people here have talked about the good times but there was a violent side to it,personally i am here for the style and some stories and memories,it does wind me up when the younger blokes preach about those times though.

Regarding what you are saying re football violence and skinhead gangs ect it was the same, dare i say maybe worse in the late 70s and 80s, when argually football violence was at it height and was taken to the extreme. There was deaths at football in the 80s. I dont recall ever hearing or reading about any deaths due to football violence in the 60s. Before you say i wasnt there, i was partly around it. I was born in 1963 and both my brothers were skinheads in the 60s and many of thier friends used tocome to our house. I was frequiently in the den with them listening to their tales.
Being a skinhead in the 70 and 80s wasnt a fashion statement as it was in the 60s it was a choice to live that life. Everyone wanted to have a pop and do a skinhead or crew. We were public enemy number one for quite a while.
So maybe we wernt quite there in the 60s, but with all due respect, was you there in the late 70s and 80s? Unless you can compare the two and lived both parts then we will never know. We all have an opinion.
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