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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Anyone else know about Mods wearing Italian Bowling shoes?Am I wrong about this(I've seen pics of Keith Moon wearing them mid 60's)

This site has exploded with lots of interesting posts recently. I don't mind if it goes slightly off topic at times because it sometimes sparks other useful bits of information that is relevent.

I lived near a bowling alley in the mid sixties and we used it like a youth club/coffee bar and played a bit of ten pin. I knew Mods that wore the bowling shoes in the same way that trainers are worn today. You could hire the bowling shoes and risk a foot infection but some of us bought the bowling shoes and we wore them away from the bowling alley.

In the mid '70's some of my younger mates started wearing bowling shirts but I stuck to the BD's.

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I started wearing roll necks in 1970. Having bought stuff at the Squire shop I started shopping at the Village Gate along Oxford Street and there I bought roll necks that were on the thin side to begin with but got chunkier in 71/72. I went away to college in 1972 and used a local launderette for my washing. I managed to shrink all my Roll necks in the wash and had to bin them. I wasn't too upset as one jumper was salmon pink and others were pastel shades.I still have three thin roll necks made in UK and bought from M&S in the 1990's.

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I still can't remember my first trainers but they might have been Gola. I did buy Reeboks quite early on when the logo had the Union flag. I was never a big Adidas fan (although photos show I did wear them) as I preferred Puma and I always saw these as rival brands with their own loyal followers.


The Dunlop Green Flash I wore were for knocking about in, they didn't cost much and I never considered them cool or trendy, just practical. I have a photo of me and a girlfriend both wearing them. I was also wearing light brown Levi cords at the time.

I would never wear trainers in the street today as there are so many better options. I wear New Balance shoes for running because they suit my running style and they are still made in UK/USA, which I like.


I have just remembered that pre skinhead there was a craze for baseball boots. Knock off copies of Converse all stars sold in local shops. We all had them one Summer, pre Scholls and mocassins.

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Originally Posted by elwood View Post

Mr. Knightley's very interesting post about dressing in the Age of Nudity and the whole topic of shorts, plus cerneabbas' comments about politicians' dressing down seem to be focused in this Daily Telegraph article (tried to link but couldn't make it work, so hope this cut & paste does):

Get shorty at work, but make sure you have the legs for it

As temperatures rise, Glenda Cooper asks whether it is ever acceptable for men to wear shorts in the office

Frankie Morello's short suits, left and right, at Milan fashion week; the Labour MP Ben Bradshaw in cycling shorts, shirt and formal shoes (Getty/James Eisen)

FOR many red-faced commuters making their way to the office today in near-90 degree heat, there is a pressing question: is it possible for the (male) office worker to keep his cool and his dignity? In short – can he wear shorts?
With dress codes at many businesses having relaxed over the past decade, and the short suit now part of many women’s office wardrobe, such a suggestion – once unthinkable – no longer seems so outré, as the heatwave is predicted to hit 89.6F (32C) on Wednesday.
At Milan fashion week this month, designers showcased city shorts. And even the stuffy world of politics is not immune. Last week, the Labour MP Ben Bradshaw turned up in cycling shorts for a reception to bid farewell to David Miliband, the former foreign secretary.
But Jodi R R Smith, president of the US etiquette consultants Mannersmith, urges caution. “Let’s be honest, very few men have the right legs for the office,” she observes. But for those who feel they do, she adds: “First, you must know your office environment. If it’s formal or very conservative, then no. If it is more casual then I would go as far as maybe. The safe option though is thin linen trousers – save the shorts for a day at the beach.”
For those determined to indulge, cycling shorts like Mr Bradshaw’s would still be seen as unacceptable in most offices – along with hotpants, denim and boardshorts. But even with tailored shorts the dilemma continues – wear socks and shoes and risk being mistaken for Just William? Or sandals and risk widespread revulsion unless you’ve spent a fortune on pedicures?
Some tailors already make bespoke shorts for businessmen. Steven Hitchcock, of the Savile Row Tailor, said: “We generally tend to make them in linen. I have had a couple of people who said that they want them for the City, but they are mainly for people who are in hotter climates.”
They are not yet a common sight in Britain’s business world, but even in the smart world of the City, the fashion choice is not banned. Shorts are not mentioned in the Bank of England’s dress code, which states that people need to be “neat and businesslike”.
And a Pricewaterhouse Coopers spokesman said it did not have a “no shorts” policy but added: “We do not expect to see droves of staff arriving in shorts, but if someone came to work in a short suit that was appropriate for big clients and the office then it would not be a problem.”
So don’t write off the rise of the trouser hemline yet. Last month, when train drivers in Stockholm were told they could not wear shorts because the operator Arriva’s dress code only permitted trousers or skirts, around a dozen male drivers turned up in skirts.

In 1976 I worked for a Civil Engineering Consultants office in West London. At that time we wore suits and ties, even in Summer. One partner was an Aussie and he invited over 1/2 dozen young Aussie Grads.When it got hot they all turned up for work in shorts despite there being an unwritten dress code. We gave them a few wolf whistles but they got away with it because it was natural to them. No Brits copied them however but we did take our jackets off and rolled up our sleeves to work.

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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

Just off subject-My Mum was Wrestling mad in the 60s and 70s.Every Saturday afternoon she would be screaming at the T.V.She hated McManus,Jackie Pallo etc.One day,both my Sisters thought what a great idea to take my Mum to the Civic Hall in Guildford-to watch the Wresting,they were all there.Big mistake.My Mum had to be restrained from climbing into the Ring,with McManus and the rest of the time she would charge backwards and forwards shouting obscenities.It was the last time they took her-even though she did go more than
Hi Brownie - shown on BBC4 last night:

Maybe you could spot someone you know?

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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post

This site has exploded with lots of interesting posts recently. I don't mind if it goes slightly off topic at times because it sometimes sparks other useful bits of information that is relevent.

I lived near a bowling alley in the mid sixties and we used it like a youth club/coffee bar and played a bit of ten pin. I knew Mods that wore the bowling shoes in the same way that trainers are worn today. You could hire the bowling shoes and risk a foot infection but some of us bought the bowling shoes and we wore them away from the bowling alley.

In the mid '70's some of my younger mates started wearing bowling shirts but I stuck to the BD's.

Thanks for the answer and explanation Bob the Badger.About 10 years ago Italian Bowling shoes were the "Trend" in Nyc for a season.Everyone and their Maid had them.New York is that way with trends.They explode and last for a short time.The "News Boy" cap was also big for a season as well.Kinda pathetic really(NYC I mean) 

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flyfronted.I agree with your last two posts,i try to use some suedehead in my style but not all of it,things move on or stagnate,IMO.I am sure i have seen another thread on this forum where people had gone to a shoe firm ( Trickers i think )and had shoes made,there was a group price.I wonder if Loake would make up a dozen pairs of Royals in decent leather ?

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I red somewhere than on another forum, members had made up Hawkins Astronauts boots replicas by Solovair.
it apparently worked well for Solovair who now produce Astros for Mikkel Rude, and under their own brand as "Solovair Hawkins".
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Bob the Badger.I dont know if you know about the rivalry between Adidas and Puma,how it started and the restrictions put on their work forces ? its quite an interesting story IMO.Berwick 1707 have got some boots on their website that i think are like the officers boots you mentioned in past posts.

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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Hi Brownie - shown on BBC4 last night:

Maybe you could spot someone you know?


Thanks Ed - some happy memories - I don't know how that one slipped by me !!

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Originally Posted by buttons View Post

To me it was always a bit more clean cut; you’re a skinhead … or you aren’t. Now that doesn’t leave a lot of slack, but maybe it shouldn’t.
If you were a skinhead of a mod or anything really that had a lasting positive impression, then that’s a good thing. If for the next 20 years you always had neat hair and polished shoes, well ironed trousers, not worn too long, then you took something from your skinhead experience for your own pleasure and satisfaction.
One of the key factors for me about being a skinhead was the look. There’s a degree of attitude, a love of certain music, a taste in many things (like cars, scooters, décor, dancing) but the fundamental underlying component for me was always the look. If you don’t look like a skinhead, then how could you claim you are one? You could be a big fan of Stax, SX200s and hair that’s cut every week, but if you wear really long jeans over running shoes with a Superdry T-shirt and a week’s stubble, then whilst you share some tastes with some of the skinheads, that doesn’t mean you’re a skinhead.
And if you dress like your average Joe, but once a month put on a button down, turn your jeans up shorter and put your brogues on to go down the local reggae club … does that make you a skinhead?
A mod lad I knew a while back had drifted out of it for ages and I saw him with a Mohican (because David Beckham grew one). I said “I thought you were a mod”. He said “I am, I just fancied a Mohican”. Really?
If the ethos has stayed with you from a younger experience, then whilst that may be a very good thing, is it anything more than that?
I don’t think there’s any shame in being an ex-skinhead. And there’s certainly no shame in being cool as fuck, with some old skinhead influences in your approach to style.

     Maybe that's why there was a reluctance to accept the labels by us as it evolved from Mods and out again quite quickly? How did you evolve into Skinhead Buttons? I agree with most of what you say except that you Mohican mate.IMO he  took something from a current trend that clearly would never work within the self contained dicipline of what I would consider in Mod taste.Trousers  may get slightly longer or shorter but I would always wear the appropriate length depending on the cut of them and style of the shoes or boots I was pairing them with.

Some might say someone like me "just wants their cake" so to speak? I certainly do,but i believe I have the self constraint and knowledge when enough is enough to not become a victim or caricature.I find it awkward when people ask questions like "Is it alright to wear ? ".Usually the answer should be "No fucking way ! " 

Did you see that thing on the telly about the Plumber from The Elephant & Castle who built his empire and become very wealthy? Clearly he had gripped on to his past a little too hard and used too much hair dye to be believable anymore.It also begs the question of the ethos being the bigger part of it all in the first place?

Who's really the Mod here,Steve McQueen or Weller.One never needed to let go and one doesn't know when to.

Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Gsvs5.Great read.I like the fact you call yourself a Mod to this day,even though you may not be shimmying down the Flamingo.Love,Love Love Ronnie Lane as well.    


I think by now it is universally accepted that the Faces were his band,and probably the reason behind Rod avoiding any reunion over the years.

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Originally Posted by Sirryacus View Post

Gsvs5 were you one of the guys in the thick of things for all those years as in never had a family to tie you down?


I ask because if so you could give us a better first hand account of the later 70's and 80's areas of interest than the other fellows who had to drop out because of careers and family life and how did you guys with families look upon at such people?


Bye the early to Mid 70's i was wearing whatever I wanted,shopping everywhere from Kensington Market to Chelsea Girl (That raised a few eyebrows in the changing rooms!)

Come '76 I had to tone things down due to work really.I spent the next seven or eight years constantly traveling the world,so I was fortunate enough to get pretty much whatever I wanted,either off the peg or have it made.I was still using thrift stores though and I would probably say that the way i dressed in the late sixties heavily influenced my taste and style from then on.This came down to things that are quite common in off the peg stuff nowadays,like working button holes on your jacket sleeves,coloured linings etc.I was generally only buying Alan McAfee and Crocket & Jones which were a step up from any shoes I had in previous incarnation.Instead of lambswool,I was buying Cashmere which was a lot more expensive that it is today.

Punk arrived and I detested it.New Romantics remain the Pimple on the Arse of men in Britain,and the Blitz era only hid the ugliest birds behind even more make up.So I was left to cherry pick from the influences of my past and the likes of Scott Crolla ,Paul Smith,Ferry and Jermyn St with subtle changes ever since.This has to be the case for many of us now nearer sixty than sixteen,or some of the retail dinosaurs that some frequent would have surely closed long ago

I played the field for as long as could and luckily met the right bird at the right time,in my 40's,so yeah I never had any thing to hold me back as it were.

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Clouseau.I think that its a good idea to get an old type of shoes or boots made again now,i wonder if it would be possible to get them made at a reasonable cost though ?.Maybe some of those Adidas training shoes that the 60s Mods used to wear.

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Cerneabbas. i guess it depends of the company. i Doubt a big shoemaker like Loake (or else) would do short runs of an old type of shoe at all. Not interesting for them or maybe at a high price. on the other hand, a smaller company could be interested. But there are two other problems. First you have to find a dozen of blokes interested by the same shoe model. Second, and this is personal, i do not like to order shoes on Internet. I prefer to try them on, as sizes varies from a make to another.
Edited by Clouseau - 7/16/13 at 8:04am
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Clouseau,Yes it is true that you should try shoes on,i have already got two pairs of Loakes in a size 10 so that would be ok ( usually ),with the Royals they still make them, so would it be a problem for them to use a better quality leather ?.Yes i think it would be a problem to find enough people who would want to buy the shoes.

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