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Originally Posted by Get Smart View Post
Finally picked myself a pair of smooths....any regional preferences on shoe type, between brogues and smooths? I've heard smooths were actually worn first, then brogues came later.

There's a confusing timeline here. Let me tell you what I remember.

The Northern mods between about 66 and 68 went something like this:
Desert boots or black bowling shoes, then penny loafers, then brogues or lace-up shoes with a loafer-like apron (confusingly we called them Gibsons). The brogues were not necessarily American-style wing-tips, but often had a broad, rounded toe; they always had fairly deep punch-holes. By 1968 loafers were out of fashion.

The London totters/hard mods, morphing into skinheads in '68:
When I arrived in London I was surprised to find loafers still worn concurrently with 'ordinary' brogues. In '68 there was that brief vogue for jodhpur boots.

Skinheads in '69:
Squire Shop smooths and brogues simultaneously. Squire shop tassel loafers afterwards.
post #1367 of 24866
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
In '68 there was that brief vogue for jodhpur boots.
never heard of that one! By jodhpur you mean the slip on style boot with the buckle(s) at the top of shaft? this is what I know as a jodhpur boot. http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...uTJBYMspAk&t=1
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never heard of that one! By jodhpur you mean the slip on style boot with the buckle(s) at the top of shaft?

No the ones which are more like a Chelsea boot. Somewhat like this:



A few lads wore black ones, but most of us had light oxblood or brown ones. The sole (unlike in this illustration, I think) was solid leather. That meant it wore down quickly. In fact the boots soon lost their new look, which is why they were only a short-lived fashion.
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Did Originals ever tailor their Levi's/jeans to make them rise high but without cuffing them?
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Did Originals ever tailor their Levi's/jeans to make them rise high but without cuffing them?

If by that you mean, in effect, did we ever wear jeans without turn-ups, then yes.



Having said that, turn-ups were more common, particularly as jeans started to rise to show off boots.

By the way, it was not uncommon for the same pair of jeans to be worn with boots and with shoes; in such cases the wearer might have turned the cuff over a couple of times when wearing boots. As my own roots were in mod style, my preference was for strides which just cleared the top of my shoe, and I simply kept to that length.
post #1371 of 24866
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
No the ones which are more like a Chelsea boot. Somewhat like this: A few lads wore black ones, but most of us had light oxblood or brown ones. The sole (unlike in this illustration, I think) was solid leather. That meant it wore down quickly. In fact the boots soon lost their new look, which is why they were only a short-lived fashion.
Did any of the original skinheads wear DM Dealer boots? Were these boots around then?. I have always hated them myself...Always thought they looked a bit smelly biker.
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Did any of the original skinheads wear DM Dealer boots? Were these boots around then?.

I never saw anyone wearing such a boot, just the leather-soled jodhpur.

When new, the jodhpur boot had a slight ridge right down the centre - it was just the way it was made - but this didn't last. That and the fact that the leather soles wore down quickly, and cobbling couldn't make them look new again, contributed to the fleetingness of the fashion.
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Interesting thread this is....Does anyone here know when skinheads started wearing woollen "Benny" hats? sometimes also called "Geno" hats, like the one Gary Oldman is wearing here in these scenes from the film Meantime. I remember seeing lots of London skinheads in the 80's wearing them, i sometimes wore one myself. Im wondering if they were ever worn earlier.
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Originally Posted by albion View Post
Interesting thread this is....Does anyone here know when skinheads started wearing woollen "Benny" hats? sometimes also called "Geno" hats,
like the one Gary Oldman is wearing here in these scenes from the film Meantime. I remember seeing lots of London skinheads in the 80's
wearing them, i sometimes wore one myself. Im wondering if they were ever worn earlier.

Never in the 60s. Good God they're an ugly thing!

No wonder they're called "Benny hats" - if I put one on I would have to say "Oi loike Miss Diane, Oi do."



They were popularised by Dexy's Midnight Runners in the 80s.

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hahaha.....Yep, called Benny hats after Benny, then Geno hats after the song by Dexy's.
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By the way, it was not uncommon for the same pair of jeans to be worn with boots and with shoes; in such cases the wearer might have turned the cuff over a couple of times when wearing boots.

So neither turnups with shoes as shown in pictures I posted above?

And one thing interests me - was term "Oi" used with connection to skinheads in 60s? Or is it pure late 70's thing?
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I support those "benny hats" 110%. They're not the most stylish, but it was also -22C outside the other day, and you'd be hard pressed to find a better cap for that situation.
M-o-M, were jeans a bit bigger back then, or preferred to be worn larger? Or were you just an emaciated teen? They look huge on you in that one picture!
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love live clips where everyone gets on stage to singalong

The Specials


Stomper 98 "chaos" cover
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post #1379 of 24866
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So neither turnups with shoes as shown in pictures I posted above?

Oh yes you could wear turnups with shoes. Again fairly thin turnups were originally a mod thing.

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And one thing interests me - was term "Oi" used with connection to skinheads in 60s? Or is it pure late 70's thing?

Basically it's cockney for "Hey you!" So we might have shouted "Oi!" when we wanted to attract someone's attention, but the "Oi" concept is pure late 70s.
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Originally Posted by KD-fens View Post
M-o-M, were jeans a bit bigger back then, or preferred to be worn larger? Or were you just an emaciated teen? They look huge on you in that one picture!

They do?

Well, like I said, I was a 'racing snake' back then. Those are just ordinary Levis (no, I don't know what number, they were just Levis, LOL)
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