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post #1351 of 18457
...it just takes a while to build up a (decent?) wardrobe. Not living in the UK doesn't help either as stylewise it was is and will be UK (some people would even argue a London) centered look. Actually it took me so long that I fell out of it before I could finish the task - still learning (not at least by reading your posts). What doesn't do it for me is the limitation to such a short span of time (68 till "death" in 70) - like mods lasted for 6 or 7 years and casuals in one form or the other for more than 20 and all the times styles were evolving. Don't get me wrong - for me thats all a bit of the same, i.e. stylish youth spending too much money on good clothes and beeing one step ahead of your peers. And this last part is the advantage for people like me not in the UK - it's much easier to be "top mod" when there is basicly no competition
post #1352 of 18457
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What doesn't do it for me is the limitation to such a short span of time (68 till "death" in 70) - like mods lasted for 6 or 7 years and casuals in one form or the other for more than 20 and all the times styles were evolving.

It's simply a historical fact.

However, even historical fact is open to interpretation. One could easily say - with some justification - that mods lasted ten or eleven years. One can say that simply by taking the skinheads as being part of the mod movement; certainly the same guys were around in 69 as had been around in 68 and 67, and many of the styles were the same or developments of the same. Or longer, if one extends the mod movement into Northern Soul. Equally, the original handful of mods from '59, '60 could argue that the movement died out with them, and that what followed was a pale imitation which stole the name.
post #1353 of 18457
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
There was a limited socks-with-sweater coordination in the late mod era, mainly matching navy-navy or burgundy-burgundy. There was a slight trend for brighter colours, especially red in late '69. Mainly one stuck to black.

And what about white socks in black boots? Like Han from Evil Conduct is wearing in following pictures. Was it usual?

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...9326dea9b0.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...3505f197cf.jpg

I like that black-white contrast.
post #1354 of 18457
...white socks is so 80s... ...but if you like it - why not? I don't. Colours and patterns all the way...
post #1355 of 18457
I dont like white socks either, too much like wearing athletic socks, which let's face it that's what most guys would/did/are wearing

but I've seen cool white socks with patterns that would be good options for a "white sock" albeit not gonna be solid white

but gets me to thinking...there are a LOT of rules associated with "correct skinhead" which can make your head turn, since there are so many dos/donts involved. I get it, originally it was a very elitist look so it was important to have all the details correct, and I think it's cool when younger guys are meticulous enough to want to follow all the right details, but as an older geezer I don't care so much for all that, having done that when younger, and now prefer to use it as an influence but not be so "by the book", esp as there is a lot of stuff out there I like which has nothing to do with skinhead clobber. That said, when I do wear certain elements of the style I still do it "by the book", just not necessarily head to toe.
post #1356 of 18457
When I look at the pics Big Muscle posted one thing springs to my mind: Air Wair shoes! I wore them a lot in the 8ts and early 9ts (also brogues with DM soles cause I thought everything proper skinhead has to have a DM sole - stupid me!). But back to the shoes: Were they worn in the late 6ts? What style? For me it was always boots with yellow stitching - shoes always without. Loved the Solovair ones - basicly quite smart smooths. (OK - confession: I also hated the yellow stitching on boots. So the first thing to do was blackening it with heaps of polish and a lighter...)
post #1357 of 18457
Also with GetSmart and SoulStylist, can't stand visible white socks, it looks nerdy, I always find that with the skinhead style you really have to keep a little space from looking nerdy, or more so, like style doesn't actually matter, making sure shit fits right and making sure you don't make mistakes with certain pattern/color combos. I wear white socks with my boots about 50% of the time, but you can't see them of course. I'm also with SoulStylist on the stitching, for the most part, I like it on boots sometimes, that's why I have a pair wear it is still yellow and the other pair have no stitching, Mikkel Rude's Astronauts. For shoes though, stitching's never good, planning on getting Solovair oxblood Gibsons (I don't know the proper name, three eyes, no eyelets) sometime within this year or next.
post #1358 of 18457
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Originally Posted by Big Muscle View Post
And what about white socks in black boots? Like Han from Evil Conduct is wearing in following pictures. Was it usual?

Not in the 60s.

The guy in the pic is wearing shoes, rather than boots, but I know what you mean.
post #1359 of 18457
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But back to the shoes: Were they worn in the late 6ts?

Air Wair shoes? Never saw any being worn in the late 60s. To us a boot was a boot and a shoe was a shoe, end of.
post #1360 of 18457
...just to understand this right: shoe was brogue, loafer or smooth - but always with leather soles? I read somewhere that people were getting an extra leather sole put on their shoes just when they bought them to give them a more sturdy look... Never trust Jim Ferguson (who was the only one I know of mentioning/drawing DM shoes as original gear)...
post #1361 of 18457
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...just to understand this right: shoe was brogue, loafer or smooth - but always with leather soles?

Yep


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I read somewhere that people were getting an extra leather sole put on their shoes just when they bought them to give them a more sturdy look...

The shoes we bought from the Squire Shop always had substantial leather soles. These wore down quickly, and we would get a local cobbler to sole-and-heel them with a layer at least as thick as the original.

Nothing looked worse than a set of shoes from that shop which had worn down-at-heel.
post #1362 of 18457
...that's not a special problem of the sqire shop - worn down soles are ugly on all shoes (desert boots excluded - my opinion) - and I do it all the time. Those metall plates on tip and heel help a bit - not so good on a wooden dancefloor, though... Thanks M-o-M for all your input...
post #1363 of 18457
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Those metal plates on tip and heel help a bit

I avoided them. I had no desire either to sound like Fred Astaire or to slip over on my arse.
post #1364 of 18457
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Ok, after reading the complete thread again - a few points that weren't talked about, yet (or I just read over them):

Striped shirts - when I started out they seemed to be at least as popular as checked ones - seen rarely now - personaly I still prefer these (or plains).

StaPrest - ok often discussed - but I still don't get it: What Levi style number was the one available then. I think my first "StaPrest" were ugly, scratchy, cheep things they used to sell at the Cavern in th eighties- did your balls in if you tried to wear those in a aproximation of skinhead style...

Re: striped shirts. In the late 60's my dad wore brightly coloured striped shirts (probably bennies)but then again his style was more Ivy/mod influenced rather than boots n'braces (though he did wear these as well). I've got a vintage OCBD bennie which is yellow, pale green, orange & pink narrow candy striped (looks better than it sounds).

A thought: perhaps checked shirts were/are more popular because they provide a more visual 'contrast' when wore with braces(than stripes)?

The Sta-prest I wore in the early 80's as a kid were definitely Levi's. Purchased from Fenwicks department store (so shouldn't be hooky) standard rise, levi's label and tab, side pockets, 1 (or maybe 2) back pockets with button (i.e. not jeans style), tapered but not skin-tight. Black, light grey, blue/white dogtooth - Worn with white socks (as they were then!).
post #1365 of 18457
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
The shoes we bought from the Squire Shop always had substantial leather soles.

Finally picked myself a pair of smooths....any regional preferences on shoe type, between brogues and smooths? I've heard smooths were actually worn first, then brogues came later.
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