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post #13486 of 19302
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Originally Posted by loempiavreter View Post

Interesting, how did these rival mob with mohicans dress? Did they dress smart or ivy-like? Or would you see them walk around in bomber jackets?

Always with Bomber Jackets etc.They were never smart,always thought they were scruffy-but it was another angle on Skinhead.smile.gif
post #13487 of 19302
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Always with Bomber Jackets etc.They were never smart,always thought they were scruffy-but it was another angle on Skinhead.smile.gif

Interesting browniecj.I would like to hear more about these scruffy skins with the Mohican and Bomber Jackets if anyone can elaborate.Cheers.

post #13488 of 19302
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post




Just had another look,and I am way off ! I originally had a subliminal glimpse of the logo on the door and it registered as  the TM Lewin script to me.It appears to actually be Leonard Lula /Leonard Luls ? We need to pass this one over to the Forensic Detective M.O.P. (Shirt) Buttons for further investigation.
Just a quick interuption as really busy (not even had time to watch the Rod thing yet!).
Think that's Leonard Lyles - gentlemens outfitters in Camberwell, SE London - they did Harris Tweed suits and the likes.

And as for Teds getting it worse .... they just got cartoonised a bit with Shawaddywaddy types in daft drapes and massive shoes. I spent about 20 years with people thinking I was in the NF, just cos me hair was short and I wore oxblood boots. They've all took a beating but skinhead is the most bastardised youth culture yet.

And 'ex-skinheads' ... whilst having been a skinhead for a while might shape your opinions on many things, I can't stand to hear middle aged blokes with what's left of their hair cropped, wearing Adidas Sambas, 3/4 cammo shorts and a T-shirt from the supermarket who put their fist over their chest and say summet like "still a skinhead at heart ... I still like me Trojan". No you're not - your a bloke in cheap sand shoes who likes a bit of reggae.

Back to work.
(it doesn't say "Fred Perry" on my Fred Perry) Buttons
post #13489 of 19302
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post

Have you got a date for that Ed?



A bigger image:

Shamelessly lifted from here:

http://ledrugstore1968.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/mod-cultures-commodity-and-ideological.html

I could be wrong(!) but isn't the blazer D/B?
post #13490 of 19302
Buttons.A coincidence that you mentioned shorts and trainers,because i have been looking for a pair of "retro" trainers online this morning.I always wear trainers or steel cap boots at work and when the suns out its shorts because of the heat where we are working.I know that trainers have been mentioned on this thread before but i think its worth asking people who were about in the 60s/70s when they first saw them? I remember very early 70s a lad at school who was a good runner ( middle distance and cross country ) had some but only for running in not streetwear.I have seen plenty of sites that mention trainers as Mod wear,but i would be interested if the blokes on here remember that.On days like we have had this week i wear cargo shorts and monkey boots but i was looking for a pair of trainers instead,this isnt for wearing out and about.I dont wear 3/4 shorts,have a crop,refer to myself as a skinhead ( ex or at heart )and i never say that i like reggae.
post #13491 of 19302
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

Buttons.A coincidence that you mentioned shorts and trainers,because i have been looking for a pair of "retro" trainers online this morning.I always wear trainers or steel cap boots at work and when the suns out its shorts because of the heat where we are working.I know that trainers have been mentioned on this thread before but i think its worth asking people who were about in the 70s when they first saw them? I remember very early 70s a lad at school who was a good runner ( middle distance and cross country ) had some but only for running in not streetwear.I have seen plenty of sites that mention trainers as Mod wear,but i would be interested if the blokes on here remember that.On days like we have had this week i wear cargo shorts and monkey boots but i was looking for a pair of trainers instead,this isnt for wearing out and about.I dont wear 3/4 shorts,have a crop,refer to myself as a skinhead ( ex or at heart )and i never say that i like reggae.

Correct me if I'm wrong but they were never referred to as 'trainers' that far back. Plimsoles / plimmies, sand shoes / sandies etc. Seen a few pics of lads wearing them around '67-68, plain white, Dunlops etc. Not keen mesell, partly as they're not at all smart (but neither are pit boots but I love them) but my views are tainted by the millions of badly dressed 'skinheads' over the last few decades, wearing for other reasons.
If you're after an old style pair now, Adidas re-released about a million old (and some just made up, I reckon) styles in their vintage range over the last 10-15 years. Dunlop caught on a few years later and did the same thing. Must be tons on ebay.
post #13492 of 19302
I understand what your are saying here but i was making a distinction between plimsolls ( daps as they are known here,pumps in other places) which i definitely saw worn then and trainers ( leather or suede uppers and a different sole to plimsolls) which i didnt see.I know that a lot of people will say that they are all the same but i think that trainers would have been quite upmarket compared to plimsolls then,for us anyway.I agree about Adidas and others jumping on some "retro" bandwagon and coming up with all sorts from their back catalogue that never even existed,i had a look but i couldnt see anything that i liked.Mind you the right pair would look ok with jeans or army greens and a polo shirt IMO.
post #13493 of 19302
Plenty pics of mods (small faces for one) wearing adidas 'trainers' (italia were a popular model) with jeans or cords.
They must've been quite hard to get at the time....only available from high end sports shops.
I suppose mods had a thing for unusual (and mostly foreign) sportwear (cycling shoes/tops, US college sports wear, plimsolls,boat shoes/jumpers, cricket jumpers etc etc, even harringtons were golfing jackets originally) .
post #13494 of 19302
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Originally Posted by buttons View Post


(it doesn't say "Fred Perry" on my Fred Perry) Buttons

Very good sir. We missed the Acid Mods one a few pages back....(Between The) Buttons.


Can shorts ever look good chaps?

I know it's not Skinhead related but tailored shorts - yes/no.

Are there any really decent 'formal' shorts that look good with a crispy white shirt? I did try the ensemble once but Mrs B. said I looked like one of the Hitler Youth....

The English male in summertime - we just can't get it right can we? biggrin.gif


Interesting reading about the first of the Mohicans Brownie, I've heard of lads with crops teamed with Moddy feathered side bits (like a girl's cut) rather than proper sidies, never a Mohawk. Great image.
post #13495 of 19302
bunty.IMO no shorts dont look smart,i tried with a white linen shirt this week,but i thought that i looked like a comic book schoolboy ( not Billy Bunter ! ).Those tailored shorts with a collar and tie and polished shoes look prattish IMO.I only wear shorts for practical reasons ie its hot,but what to wear with them as footwear i am not sure.
post #13496 of 19302
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

.I know that trainers have been mentioned on this thread before but i think its worth asking people who were about in the 60s/70s when they first saw them? I remember very early 70s a lad at school who was a good runner ( middle distance and cross country ) had some but only for running in not streetwear.I have seen plenty of sites that mention trainers as Mod wear,but i would be interested if the blokes on here remember that.

Back in 69 we did not have trainers as we know today.  Only plimsolls and these were only used in the gym and not worn in public.  We used to run in old army boots for boxing training that I am sure was for punishment more than anything else

 

The first time I saw real trainers was around 1980 when a bloke I was training with ran to the Dojo in Adidas ? ( the ones with the 3 stripes down each side) and at the time I did not consider wearing them out socially but bought a pair for training.  When I did buy a pair they were the astronomical price of £23 that I thought was way over the top for a pair of plimsolls.  But they were certainly a new foot comfort experience. 

 

I am still not that keen on wearing trainers today but I seem to always have a pair of Reebok Classics that are ideal for walking on holiday but I do not generally wear with jeans for social wearing

post #13497 of 19302
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

bunty.IMO no shorts dont look smart,i tried with a white linen shirt this week,but i thought that i looked like a comic book schoolboy ( not Billy Bunter ! ).Those tailored shorts with a collar and tie and polished shoes look prattish IMO.I only wear shorts for practical reasons ie its hot,but what to wear with them as footwear i am not sure.

I agree, when I wear the 'chino ' type shorts I wear them with boat shoes (no socks) and a loose summer type shirt mainly on holiday but also this week with the rare sunshine.

 

I have said before that in 69 as 'skinheads' we would not wear shorts in public.  We only wore cut down Levis on the building sites with DMs.

 

Another thought was that we would spend all summer on site getting a tan and never new about or used sun protection cream.  Later in the 70s we used 'Ambre Solaire' oil but this was not for protection but to enhance the colour.  I can still remember the smell - it brings back early holidays in the Costa Brava !!

post #13498 of 19302
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Originally Posted by Aces and Eights View Post

I agree, when I wear the 'chino ' type shorts I wear them with boat shoes (no socks) and a loose summer type shirt mainly on holiday but also this week with the rare sunshine.

I have said before that in 69 as 'skinheads' we would not wear shorts in public.  We only wore cut down Levis on the building sites with DMs.

Another thought was that we would spend all summer on site getting a tan and never new about or used sun protection cream.  Later in the 70s we used 'Ambre Solaire' oil but this was not for protection but to enhance the colour.  I can still remember the smell - it brings back early holidays in the Costa Brava !!
Lightweights!

We were so hard we used Mazola cooking oil as we lay on sheets of baco-foil! biggrin.gif

Cut-offs for us.

It felt quite decadent wrecking a pair of Levi's but, if I remember correctly, the summers of '69 and '70, were too warm to wear proper strides all the time... and we had to retain a certain look. nod[1].gif
post #13499 of 19302
Aces and Eights,I even wonder if you would have been served in pubs back then wearing shorts ? now anything goes,i really think that some blokes shouldnt wear shorts and i dont think anyone looks good in them ( well maybe the 66 England team ).You put up a post a while back about being i n Brighton on a bank holiday in the 60s and seeing a big police sergeant there,i was on the modculture site and there was a picture of some mods on scooters in Brighton and a police sergeant behiend them wearing a white police helmet..i wondered if he was the one you mentioned.I remember the smell of Ambre Solaire and how greasy it was too,i got told off as a kid for dropping the glass bottle it was in ( it smashed ) on the pebble beach at Weymouth.
post #13500 of 19302
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Interesting browniecj.I would like to hear more about these scruffy skins with the Mohican and Bomber Jackets if anyone can elaborate.Cheers.

They also wore bleached jeans(not to confused with the later version).I tried once and carried on fading my Jeans,whenever I went to the Coast(or in the Bath).The ones with the Mohican Cut were I suppose the forerunners of the later "Look"but without the tight Jeans.They never wore Shirts or Suits etc.It seemed a mini "kick-back" against the way Skinheads were evolving into Suedeheads.Its funny thinking about it now,but I was seeing something that was 10 years in advance.
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