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post #13156 of 19152
Good shot of the dark Flight Jackets I was on about,in the Chelsea Photo.

Bassett,pre DMs I wore Commando Boots(in Black).Tuf Boots were ok(I did see some in Black)-but I never had them.

Hammersmith Palais,like most Dancehalls,had their Gangs of Doormen.Most were about the age that is seen in the Hammersmith Palais Video(good one Ed),and a lot had "form".By `73 I had stopped going to the Palais(I was 23 so a bit old for that crowd).Shame to think that the Palais does not exist now.

With the Tie and Handkerchief question-I did wear them both but mainly with Handkerchief and open collared shirt.In those days,I would wear a Suit down to the Pub dressed as such.You were considered a slob if you did not.

Spotted Ties in about `67/`68 then Striped Ties after.About `70 plain Ties came to the fore and I would wear one with the Two Tone.smile.gif
post #13157 of 19152
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Originally Posted by BillyWhizz View Post

Did any of you lads ever see the phenomenon of a group of blokes all wearing more or less the same thing?

 

We had a gang around our way that wore almost identical clothing - A red Harrington, Levis, Ox Blood DMs and the the only thing that varied was the Ben Sherman or Fred Perry.

 

It was quite a sight to see 15 or so lads stomping down the street all in red Harringtons.... wish I had a picture!
 

 

Yes - In truth on a Saturday afternoon we all looked pretty much the same in 1969/70. By early 1970 it was wall to wall denim and Doc Martens in Manchester. The most extreme example of this I ever saw (I think I may have mentioned this before) was on 27th March 1971. I was on a coach going to watch City play at WBA  and we passed Oxford Road railway station in Manchester just as Hundreds of Scousers were leaving after getting off a 'Special' train. Every single one of them was dressed identically in denim jacket, turned up jeans and cherry red Doc Martens, all with skinhead haircuts. The only slight difference was that some were wearing Everton Scarves, some Liverpool scarves. They were playing each other in a cup semi-final at Old Trafford and no doubt put aside their traditional rivalry for the trip into enemy territory. A couple of years ago I went to Liverpool for a day, mid-week with my girlfriend. We both commented on how everybody, men, women, old and young all dressed in dark clothes, mostly black and navy. I mentioned this to a mate who originally comes from Liverpool and now works in the clothing industry. He said this is very much a trait of Liverpool - if you don't conform, you'll take loads of stick from your mates. Another characteristic of Liverpool I have never seen anywhere else is that on a Saturday afternoon in the city centre you will see quite a few young women walking about with rollers in their hair covered by a headscarf. If you are there on Saturday morning, some of them are also walking around in their pyjamas and slippers! 

post #13158 of 19152

Been working with a production tailor making some shirts. Here is one with the 69-72 collar/ pattern. Please give honest opinions.

 

I'll also be doing a 65-68 pattern

 

post #13159 of 19152

Browniecj: "Good shot of the dark Flight Jackets I was on about,in the Chelsea Photo."

 

On the MA-1 subject, i remember when i was a kid that existed cheaper versions of MA-1 with dark linings. On the Chelsea picture, the flight jacket looks good, but do not seem as thick as "authentic" MA-1. At the time there were not only Alpha, but other makes licensed by the USAF. And or course imitations.

For information, i found that today Alpha makes to cheaper version of the MA-1 with dark linings: one is called the MA-1 re-issued, the other the MA-I summer version...

post #13160 of 19152

MA-1 re-issued

 

 

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MA-1 TT (summer edition)

 

 

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post #13161 of 19152
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post #13163 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Well, when my jeans got holes in 'em - they were fit only for work.

I was rarely in jeans between 1970-71 as I preferred a decent pair of strides: sta-prest, toniks, PoW etc - but jeans were a must for work as, being in 'the print', decent clobber could easily get ruined.

Patches always on the inside, when required. biggrin.gif

In the same vein, d'you remember lads with leather-faced turn-ups and on pockets of jeans?

Or did I imagine it? shog[1].gif

No, you didn't imagine that, Ed. I remember it too. Pocket edges would wear quicker than rest of jeans and in days when you didn't just discard and buy a new pair, leather edging would extend their life.

I do remember patching on inside but when knees on my first pair of Wranglers wore through (too much kneeling on carpet playing Subbuteo!) my Mum patched them on outside with black leather elbow patches! That wasn't unique round my way.
post #13164 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Okay, first time I've seen this.

Tagged as 1973 - I reckon it's earlier.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dancing-at-the-palais/query/teenagers

Anything after 10'15" in - forget it... or you really are old. satisfied.gif

Penny round collars, brutus dungarees, a sheepskin... F-me... sure i saw a crombie, too!!!

(The boy dancing at 5' in is priceless - unfortunately no sound.)

Don't know if I'm doing something wrong with this, Ed, but can't seem to play more than first 30 seconds. Great find, anyway.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 1973 - there's a girl there with bleached fringe (top right hand corner of frame at 00:25 in) and I do remember that being popular with girls then.
post #13165 of 19152
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Originally Posted by roytonboy View Post

Yes - In truth on a Saturday afternoon we all looked pretty much the same in 1969/70. By early 1970 it was wall to wall denim and Doc Martens in Manchester. The most extreme example of this I ever saw (I think I may have mentioned this before) was on 27th March 1971. I was on a coach going to watch City play at WBA  and we passed Oxford Road railway station in Manchester just as Hundreds of Scousers were leaving after getting off a 'Special' train. Every single one of them was dressed identically in denim jacket, turned up jeans and cherry red Doc Martens, all with skinhead haircuts. The only slight difference was that some were wearing Everton Scarves, some Liverpool scarves. They were playing each other in a cup semi-final at Old Trafford and no doubt put aside their traditional rivalry for the trip into enemy territory. A couple of years ago I went to Liverpool for a day, mid-week with my girlfriend. We both commented on how everybody, men, women, old and young all dressed in dark clothes, mostly black and navy. I mentioned this to a mate who originally comes from Liverpool and now works in the clothing industry. He said this is very much a trait of Liverpool - if you don't conform, you'll take loads of stick from your mates. Another characteristic of Liverpool I have never seen anywhere else is that on a Saturday afternoon in the city centre you will see quite a few young women walking about with rollers in their hair covered by a headscarf. If you are there on Saturday morning, some of them are also walking around in their pyjamas and slippers! 

Do remember seeing young women in headscarves over rollers on a Saturday morning round my way in early 60s - and sometimes they were even popping to corner shop while still in slippers! My Mum did NOT approve ... Much tutting :-)
post #13166 of 19152
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Originally Posted by elwood View Post

Don't know if I'm doing something wrong with this, Ed, but can't seem to play more than first 30 seconds. Great find, anyway.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 1973 - there's a girl there with bleached fringe (top right hand corner of frame at 00:25 in) and I do remember that being popular with girls then.

Appears I was just being impatient. Persevered and have now seen properly ... and what a scary flashback! Had almost forgotten how awful male hairstyles had gone by then.

Does seem 73-ish to me - as you said, Ed, penny round collars and girls in dungarees and also noticed lots of smock-type dresses - and smoking on the dance floor!
post #13167 of 19152
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Originally Posted by elwood View Post

Appears I was just being impatient. Persevered and have now seen properly ... and what a scary flashback! Had almost forgotten how awful male hairstyles had gone by then.

Does seem 73-ish to me - as you said, Ed, penny round collars and girls in dungarees and also noticed lots of smock-type dresses - and smoking on the dance floor!

satisfied.gif

Hideous or what.

FTR: some supermarkets in the NW have banned women wearing jim-jams going into their shops - tramps! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
(With apologies to any true 'knights of the road' who may have sauntered onto this thread.) satisfied.gif
post #13168 of 19152

Great video what's the story with the doormen they were really teddy boys?  that main ginger one without a moustache looks like a real asshole, i remember someone mentioned something about doormen stealing coats if they were expensive so you didn't make that mistake twice after going to certain clubs, but they never really elaborated on trouble with them such as fights, I would assume it would be like anywhere else the police would be the club owner and his staff no matter how corrupt they were.

post #13169 of 19152
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Okay, first time I've seen this.

Tagged as 1973 - I reckon it's earlier.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dancing-at-the-palais/query/teenagers

Anything after 10'15" in - forget it... or you really are old. satisfied.gif

Penny round collars, brutus dungarees, a sheepskin... F-me... sure i saw a crombie, too!!!

(The boy dancing at 5' in is priceless - unfortunately no sound.)


The Hammersmith Palais around that time early 70s pre 75 was offering free - or very cheap - entry on a Sunday which was marketed as ' International Au Pair' day or some such nonsense.

A very nice building and you could have a beer. Not very busy on those Sundays though. Music was always dire. Ray McVay and his orchestra would make an appearance at some point - even though nobody wanted them on stage. Forget about soul reggae or anything vaguely interesting musically. It was just a night out, somewhere to go.
post #13170 of 19152
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Originally Posted by elwood View Post


No, you didn't imagine that, Ed. I remember it too. Pocket edges would wear quicker than rest of jeans and in days when you didn't just discard and buy a new pair, leather edging would extend their life.

I do remember patching on inside but when knees on my first pair of Wranglers wore through (too much kneeling on carpet playing Subbuteo!) my Mum patched them on outside with black leather elbow patches! That wasn't unique round my way.

 

Likewise elwood.There was a phase when leather elbow patches were added to shetland wool crew necks even when there were no holes in the elbows,it was just a "Look".

It just reminded me of my sister and her mates wearing almost knee length Angora/Shetland cardigans,levis and BD shirts (Brutus checks).Charcoal Grey was popular.

The cardigans were lightweight and fitted,unlike the chunky cardigans the lads wore,and made the girls look slim and taller.Thier make up was also quite startling at times with lots of white stuff  and blue around the eyes,reminiscent of a pack of Badgers!

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