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post #12616 of 18562
http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/03/the-dapper-rebels-of-los-angeles-1966/

These kids have very similar fashion a good three years before the first wave.
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What do you think of these ? i have a pair and had some great comments.   http://scootssuitsandboots.com/mod-skinhead-footwear/delicious-junction-brogues-upsetter-royale-black-1360119639.php
 

post #12618 of 18562
A few book names(not to step on any toes, I am a newer contributor and not a main face on here, just food for thought):

"A Backstreet View"
"When the Sword Was Mightier Than the Pen"
"(Keep It) Neat and Tidy"
post #12619 of 18562
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

Basset, I dont know if your mate is still after those boots ,but if you look on e;bay in mens shoes there are some of the Sanders ones £85 plus postage,theres only a few sizes.You once mentioned an Italian tailor on here ( i think ) was he in or near Bristol and would you recommend him? i want to get a jacket and maybe some trousers made.


Thanks i will tip him off.

As for tailoring in Bristol im at a loss to recomend anyone to you, the Italian bloke i mentioned has made some nice suits for mates in the past, but his last effort was rubbish in all honesty, in fairness he is knocking on a bit, i used to drive past his shop everyday last year for a couple of months as i was working that way and it was always shut, pardon the pun but i thought he'd pegged it.

 

If you want the address i'll pm it to you, but not out of recomendation, more you pays yer money and takes yer chance

post #12620 of 18562
Basset, Thanks for the info,its ok i will hang on and find another tailor. I find it a bit depressing that when i was younger there was a lot of clothes/shoes that i wanted but couldnt afford,then you go through the mortgage/family years (not much spare cash) then when you get to my age and have a bit of disposable income the things that you want are not available.I went into Bristol on saturday the shops were full of rubbish,the only items that i liked were some button down shirts in M and S,and a Jasper Conran "harrington" in Debenhams...they didnt have one in large,not a problem i think ,i will order one online haha all sizes out of stock.So a few hours wasted and i had to pay for car parking!!.I expect some people on here might ask why the Jasper Conran "harrington" theres loads of cheaper ones available,i like it because it has a plain lining not tartan (heresy i know) i liked the navy colour and it seemed well made.
post #12621 of 18562
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Originally Posted by ScootSuitnBoots View Post

What do you think of these ? i have a pair and had some great comments.   http://scootssuitsandboots.com/mod-skinhead-footwear/delicious-junction-brogues-upsetter-royale-black-1360119639.php

 

Probably looks good on you,personally I would not be seen dead in them.smile.gif
post #12622 of 18562
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Originally Posted by catchourbreath View Post

http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/03/the-dapper-rebels-of-los-angeles-1966/

These kids have very similar fashion a good three years before the first wave.

We have seen and discussed them before.
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The reason why I suggested "Walking Proud",in the first place,was because it was a Reggae Tune so connected to us.Secondly there was something that had "Walk Proud" on it,that had the stereotype Skinhead image on it.I thought with the Book,we are showing the other side to what the Media projected.

Brownie, this is precisely why I asked. I clearly recalled that 'Walking Proud' had been suggested.

I think the image you're thinking about was Jason's graphic, which I have been using on the agency web site just to add a splash of colour. It's not necessarily going to be the book's cover.
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Originally Posted by Souldier View Post

in East London we used to call them Skeletons

Same in S E London, I seem to remember, now you come to mention it.
post #12625 of 18562
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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post

A few book names(not to step on any toes, I am a newer contributor and not a main face on here, just food for thought):

"A Backstreet View"
"When the Sword Was Mightier Than the Pen"
"(Keep It) Neat and Tidy"

All good stuff, snappy, but doesn't quite carry it, I think. We weren't just in the back streets, we were on the high street, in the clubs, and on the saunter 'Up West' too.

One reason why I like Walk Proud or Walking Proud is that it is short and sharp, just two words. What isn't conveyed by that can be conveyed by a sub-title in smaller letters (for example - The Skinheads of '69 in their own words) and by an eye-catching cover illustration. The illustration should show more than the 'boots and braces' image, but not exclude it - back in the day we could dress up really smart but we could also be scruffy cnuts.

A word of warning. If the book is accepted by a publisher, then we will not necessarily have any say in cover design. They could even insist on a different title. To be sure of retaining control we would have to self-publish, which could cost a fair bit.

Anyhow, here's how I think things stand:

Title: We had pretty much settled on Walk Proud or Walking Proud. However, neither of these is set in stone. If anyone wants to suggest something else, then do so. We have loads of time to spare (collating the material is turning out to be a much longer job than I had thought it would) for re-thinking this if we want to. I'll take notice of anyone's opinions.

Cover: I had two or three designers/artists already suggested for this job. There was Jason (GetSmart) and another bloke I've kinda lost touch with. Jason's is the red/blue/white design below. Neither of these is a finished cover; they're both mock-ups to give a general idea. There would be lots of details which would need tweaking.



Added to those I have another contact (thanks to John 'Mr Knightley') I've not formally approached yet.

We might even be able to make what they call a 'montage' of snaps from back in the day. I haven't given up on that idea either, now that a lot more are coming out here and there.

The main thing is, we'll get there. We'll have a book one way or another, and the material in it will be pretty damn good.
post #12626 of 18562
Quick snap of Browniecj and Buttons at a reggae do in Nottingham at the weekend.
I even got to meet Mrs Brownie.
Great night.
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MOM, 

imho about the sketches, Jason drawing is good, but the style and the "no face" character reminds me to much of the Last resort's crucified skins designs. They have nothing to do with "Walk proud" and the Originals.

And the second sketch is, for me, a no no...

I think that the style of the "Jim ferguson fashion notebook" drawings is very good. They have impact and accuracy. And they are in black & white, like most of the pictures you may use for the book. Maybe could they be some kind of an inspiration for the artist.

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The image below gives you a rough idea of what a montage cover might look like, going for straight impact, showing smart/scruffy, nice/nasty (Okay so Pete Heed always called himself a mod, but his pic is too good to miss!) boy/girl.

I'm going to say (c) Paul Thompson - not to be copied from this forum for the simple reason that too much from here is popping up all over the web, not because this mock up is anything special.



Levi Strauss might object to use of their brand name, but as I say, this is just to give you an idea of what can be done. I've deliberately left my own fizzog off this.
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post

MOM, 
imho about the sketches, Jason drawing is good, but the style and the "no face" character reminds me to much of the Last resort's crucified skins designs. They have nothing to do with "Walk proud" and the Originals.
And the second sketch is, for me, a no no...
I think that the style of the "Jim ferguson fashion notebook" drawings is very good. They have impact and accuracy. And they are in black & white, like most of the pictures you may use for the book. Maybe could they be some kind of an inspiration for the artist.

Like I said, neither of those is a solid suggestion for the front cover, just examples of artwork that has been seen so far, to give an idea what the artists could do, what their style is like.

Jim Feguson's drawings have been discussed before (we have permission to 'quote' from them, but I guess not to put them on the cover - in any case he is too associated with another book), and their accuracy has been called into question. But I take your point. Maybe you'll like the montage idea.
post #12630 of 18562

MOM,I like very much the montage (or collage) idea). About the Jim ferguson notebook drawings, i was thinking of them as an inspiration for future drawings, not to use them again.

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