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Although these could be them, years later ....


 

Seeing Townsend in the white Bib 'n' Brace overalls reminded me of  a pair of white painters overalls I wore for a brief period also with monkey boots.I saw a lad from Stoke with a pair and he had  the Pink Panther sewn on the front bib.I thought it was very funny and original.I went out and got a pair and sewed on a big pair of red lips with a fag hanging out,a bit like the Stones Tongue logo.I remember walking into the Boothen End and getting loads of abuse and comments like "My place needs a coat of paint when you're done here son".

I've never seen this photo before,but maybe that's where the lad I copied got his inspiration?

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You're right Bunty, they did do a monkey boot with MONKEY spelled along the sole, in the tread pattern. Seen a few but can't find a picture (Oh, the shame!). Think these were once they'd caught on and everyone had a pair, many cheap manufacturers were tring to put their own twist on it to improve sales.

Some might say, this is Townsend in the High Numbers in a pair of Monkey Boots but I'm not convinced.
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Although these could be them, years later ....

1978.

Notice how Keith Moon("Not to be taken away") wasn't looking very well at this time. .
Edited by MikeDT - 5/12/13 at 7:58am
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To give you a little background on the striped Cardigans, they were called Connies and were made by a greek tailor in Melbourne called Mr Conte. They were made to order and each individual gang had their own specific colours. If you want to read up on Sharpies (as these lads were called rather than skinheads, although skins did wear connies here too as well) take a look at my mate Tadhg Taylor's book, "Top Fellas" which is the definitive book on Aussie mod, skinhead and sharpie culture.

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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post

He was a well known Angel from South London. He was also an ex Mod would you believe. He was a nice fella.

Exactly.
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

I remember "army greens" being worn but i thought they were the ones with cargo pockets,can you remember ?

The 'greens' that were worn in London in '68, '69 had no cargo pockets (see the pic of 'the Smiffies' from Deptford earlier in the thread). They were also sometimes known as 'dockers' because a lot of dock-workers had them. I bought a pair in 68 and wore them on a trip back to Blackpool; my old mates were not impressed.
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Man-of-Mystery. I saw the picture and i know that the jungle greens were talked about earlier in the thread,i was wondering if Pressure_Drop could remember the type of trousers worn here in Bristol then.I can remember coming to London for the first time,it was around christmas but i cant remember what year,i do remember seeing lads wearing long denim coats with a denim belt and a sheepskin collar.There have been a few regional variations mentioned on this thread and its quite surprising how the overall style spread around the country,i know that we saw other fans wearing different kit at football and people from other places would congregate at seaside resorts.I remember a bit later Chelsea coming to Bristol and seeing loads of their lot wearing the green Alpha flight jackets,i had never seen them before and i was impressed,i went to London a couple of weeks after and bought one.
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MikeDT. For your breakfast try the A1 cafe Duckmoor road Ashton,just around the corner from the city ground,great quality and a good price...

I know the place. I shall probably head there with a mate. There's a place in Soundwell I always liked, near the baths. Can't remember what it's called though.
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.then a brisk 10 minute walk to the Orchard Inn hanover place,they have a brilliant choice of ciders (check their website out). Cider pubs used to be pretty dismal places but it has become quite "trendy" now and people like Mr Thatcher have raised cider quality IMO..one of the few cases where things are better than they used to be !!!

I know there was a couple of dismal rough cider places in Bedminster, like the Barley Mow on Bedminster Parade. And I used to regularly go to the Essex Arms in Kingswood, that was rough and ready, but was always a good bunch of people.


Can't wait really and I start my journey back to the UK on Wednesday....

flight > Hohhot
flight > PingDingShan
train > GuangZhou
train > ShenZhen
walk > Hong Kong
flight > Malaysia
flight > London Heathrow
National Express > Bristol
Edited by MikeDT - 5/12/13 at 5:51am
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Man-of-Mystery. I saw the picture and i know that the jungle greens were talked about earlier in the thread,i was wondering if Pressure_Drop could remember the type of trousers worn here in Bristol then.I can remember coming to London for the first time,it was around christmas but i cant remember what year,i do remember seeing lads wearing long denim coats with a denim belt and a sheepskin collar.There have been a few regional variations mentioned on this thread and its quite surprising how the overall style spread around the country,i know that we saw other fans wearing different kit at football and people from other places would congregate at seaside resorts.I remember a bit later Chelsea coming to Bristol and seeing loads of their lot wearing the green Alpha flight jackets,i had never seen them before and i was impressed,i went to London a couple of weeks after and bought one.

 

Classic Look with Greens

 

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Originally Posted by Raff72 View Post

To give you a little background on the striped Cardigans, they were called Connies and were made by a greek tailor in Melbourne called Mr Conte. They were made to order and each individual gang had their own specific colours. If you want to read up on Sharpies (as these lads were called rather than skinheads, although skins did wear connies here too as well) take a look at my mate Tadhg Taylor's book, "Top Fellas" which is the definitive book on Aussie mod, skinhead and sharpie culture.

Im sure they have been posted on before, but some videos of Aus 'Sharpies'. Great example of how a subculture is taken and changed.. Fantastic knitwear IMO. :

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

'who cut your hair ?' ...

 
From the Book ive been trying to get but i think its out of print 
 
Even there own unique style of dancing

 

 

 

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McDermott. Your shirt in the picture has got good sleeves IMO,much better than the short tight ones that you see for sale a lot now.Someone suggested to me that the modern ones are to show off peoples arms because a lot of blokes go to the gym now !!! maybe its so they can do a Hulk impression ?.I cant do the breakfasts these days,only special occasions, i put on weight so easy that i gained half a stone looking at your breakfast in the picture,

 

Yes true... I dont mind a bit shorter, but as its been pointed out before the 'Really really tight' fitted look that is expected of  later 60's and 70's is not always the case. I see modern skinheads wearing everything quite fitted, I still prefer a baggier harrington and knitwear etc. Depends what it is, but if im getting stuff made like that shirt then ill go the distance to get the details correct. They aint got nothing on me anyway !! mwink[1].gif

 

Not done the 'ulster fry' or the other one.. but found nothing  I cant eat yet !!! drool.gif

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Korean war button flies


or Vietnam issue with aluminium zip

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Other types were worn - depends on what your local Army Navy store were stocking at the time .... aint that right Mr Basset?
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McDermott - I'm still doing the Levi Jacket/Tartan Scarf look myself - the nearest I get to skinhead style these days (and at 58, probably just as well!) Your breakfast reminded me of my Dad who would put a big fry down in front of me and say, "Get that down you lad, it'll grease your lungs!"

 

Coloured Doc Martens - in  1972 younger kids around Manchester started painting their boots - Red and Black (City), Yellow and Blue (united). The writing was really on the wall when some started spraying them silver (Gary Glitter!). 

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Buttons and McDermott, Excellent pictures,i am taking comfort in Buttons saying that different surplus shops stocked different kit. If McDermotts scarf was red and white (Bristol city) and his trousers had cargo pockets it would be how i (probably wrongly !) remember it.Blimey Basset i hope you have got a loyalty card for your surplus store !
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

Buttons and McDermott, Excellent pictures,i am taking comfort in Buttons saying that different surplus shops stocked different kit. If McDermotts scarf was red and white (Bristol city) and his trousers had cargo pockets it would be how i (probably wrongly !) remember it.Blimey Basset i hope you have got a loyalty card for your surplus store !

Cernebbes go back a few hundred pages on this thread Jungle Greens have been covered in depth, The ones Buttons is wearing in the above pics are the type we wore in 68 American issue from local Army Surplus Shop.

I think you will find some 79/80 Skinheads wore Greens, British Army Lightweights with the thigh pocket which was standard issue.

Just to add the pics above, Buttons wearing 60s American Greens, and Basset wearing the 70s/80s British Army Issue,

Think I was there when that pic was taken Will Margate?, I was wearing my Greens that day also.smile.gif
Edited by Lasttye - 5/12/13 at 6:34am
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Lots of stuff going on at the moment.

Cerneabbas - that was Ian Sparkes, yes he was a bit of a dresser, but can't remember the white suit (thankfully!) Navy whites were just that, white baggy Naval trousers bought from good ex Army, as you say Marcruss on Hotwells Road was a favourite but Browns on Gloucester Road was also popular (bought my first pair of ex Army boots there). Skinners made white baggy jeans and were popular for a while and a think the lads who bought Navy whites did so because they couldn't afford Skinners.

I never wore Army Greens but can remember them being quite popular (around 71ish?) but I thought they did have side pockets and like modern day combats but I may be wrong.

Bovver mocs - I remember these very well and I'm surprised no other lads have commented on them, the first lad I knew who wore them was Egghead who bought them in London (he was a Chelsea lad - hung around with China - they both knew Eccles/Greenaway). I bought them in one of the high street shoe shops in Bristol - maybe Stead & Simpson and I recall that they were at the tail-end of suedehead and moving into smoothies, worn with Crombies and tonics, just after brogues/loafers but before platforms so a nice little compromise. I only remember them in black, they had a thick rubber/composite sole and heavy stitching around the top (like loafers) but lace up.

Interesting seeing the photos of Pete Townshend wearing Monkey Boots (I still have a pair that I bought in the 70s) I've just read his autobiography (disappointing, full of pretentious claptrap) and he mentions wearing DMs all the time and no mention of Monkey Boots.
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Lasttye. I have read what was said earlier in the thread about jungle greens,i saw the picture that you put up of yours.I just dont remember that the ones worn here in Bristol were the same (and that could be me remembering wrong),one thing i definitely remember was they were known as "army greens" here (that doesnt mean that they were different trousers though). Yes i remember seeing lads wearing the green lightweights (like Basset is wearing in the picture with Buttons) i also remember them wearing DPM camo trousers,as you say this was late 70s early 80s.
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Pressure_Drop. Yes it was Ian Sparkes suit that i saw, when you think this was 5 or 6 years before Saturday night fever maybe he was ahead of the times.I didnt know about white skinners but i do remember lads wearing "navy whites",i heard someone say that they had to boil wash them after every time they wore them (i bet that was to get shoe polish marks off the bottom of the legs).Phew,i am glad you remember "army greens" with side/cargo pockets as well,i thought i was going to be on my own in the nuthouse for a minute.Bovver moccs,i had 2 pairs (they were really cheap !) i got mine in Lennards in Westbury,i had black and brown,i polished the brown ones ox blood.Do you remember Bath v Plymouth FA cup?,i was with you and Paul W that day before the match ! ,do you remember the police took one blokes steel toe caps off him? he was stood there in the middle of winter in his socks,his mates went in a shop and bought him the brightest orange and black canvas shoes!!! he looked a right prat in his sheepskin and jeans....happy days.
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