London Rudeboy
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Settle down - it was Gramps that said "top" in reference to a shirt.
I was commentling on how the use of the word top to describe any upper garment was a more modern (post 70s) expression.
Just another bit of intelligence about the birth of the name polo shirt when applied to a tennis type of shirt. In his witty and erudite guide from 1987 'A Gentleman's Wardrobe' Paul Keers uses the term polo shirt freely in this context and carries a picture of JFK sporting one.
Diana de Marly in 'Fashion for Men - An Illustrated History' of 1985 on the other hand calls this type of shirt simply 'a knitted shirt'.
This seems to confirm that it was during the 1980s and not 90s that this term began to be genreally accepted in England. I say generally as I believe in clothing circles it pre-dated this.
Interestingly Keers calls a roll neck/Polar/polo sweater a 'turtle neck'. My understanding has always been that the correct term for this type of sweater (or its lighterweight cousin as made by Sunspel until recently) is turtle, with the shorter type of collar that does not roll being a mock turtle. John Smedley - http://www.johnsmedley.com/uk/mens/mens-pullovers/ss12-oxford
But isn't that all very much to do with the way it was in the US rather than the UK.
Settle down - it was Gramps that said "top" in reference to a shirt.
I was commentling on how the use of the word top to describe any upper garment was a more modern (post 70s) expression.
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Nothing really, buttons doesn't like people using the word "tops" to refer to shirts. I thought he was referring to my use of it, turns it it was your use he was referring to.
Great photos! It's a shame nobody under the age of 30 dresses like that here anymore. The dominant youth fashion where I'm from (western australia) is awful pastel singlets, tiny checked shorts, canvas slip-ons, massive sneakers, techno-looking wraparound sunglasses/monstrosities. Funny though, apparently Perth had a pretty big influx of British ex-pats around the late '60s/'70s so there is quite a large group of older folks who'd have been young teenagers when skinhead took off in Britain that have retained elements of style, as well as younger (50 y.o odd) guys that make up quite a sizeable Northern soul community here.
Top, toppy, top top.
I stand to be corrected... but it looks very much like a 'surfer jacket' I had in 1968 - different colour, though.
Were they not Nylon,back in `68?(or something)