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post #11611 of 19333
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post

Can't be, everyone knows that ORIGINAL Skinheads wern't racist. sneaky2.gif

Just in keeping with the spirit of this thread - the 'social history' angle - it has been said before that Britain was generally more racist (in a casual way, if you know what I mean) than it is today. 'Original skinheads' were just ordinary kids, the vast majority were working class from the cities, would have had a fairly wide spread of views, but those views would have reflected society as a whole, and their upbringing and education and what was being said in the media. In the cities there was a lot of resentment and suspicion of South Asian immigrants - that's just a fact of life in the late 60s, that's how it was.

I always tried not to be racist, but looking back, I'm sometimes surprised by some of the crass things I used to say that I wouldn't say now. I remember thoroughly disliking the way that South Asian lads in their teens and twenties dressed, but on the other hand I had Caribbean and Asian friends at college. Outside of college, most of my mates were white. There were no South Asian mobs round our way, but if there had been and there had been any trouble, I would have pitched in for my mates and not given a thought to the colour of the opposing mob. That's just how it was.

Just saying.
post #11612 of 19333
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Originally Posted by Gramps View Post

It's beginning to get a little Silly on here now, and to be frank a little boring (Well the petty Snide dig's here and there at least).

Ah the downfall of many a good internet Forum.

Not really. Things just get slack on here from time to time, until someone comes up with something new. We've done pretty well keeping it going for nearly 775 pages! smile.gif
post #11613 of 19333
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

I have said before,there were scruffy Skinheads during the 60s,whether it was North or South.But as with other things,it does tend to get shouted down.smile.gif

Not by me, Col. I can remember a few blokes around S E London who let the side down a bit.
post #11614 of 19333
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Originally Posted by ek77 View Post

just found these ones on fb:

Willesden Boys - Smart, Bill and Shed


What's interesting about the inset shot is the way two of the lads are wearing their shirts outside their waistbands. This is a very 1969 thing. Many shirts back then were slim fit, cut straight and short at the bottom, and lads did wear that style of shirt like this from time to time. I occasionally did it myself, usually with my sta-prest, like the bloke on the right of the shot.
post #11615 of 19333
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Originally Posted by ek77 View Post

just found these ones on fb:

Willesden Boys - Smart, Bill and Shed


TOUCH-UP..........White Horse, Church Road NW10
Original photo taken by Infamous Willesden photographer 'Smut the Leg' - due to having half a shandy prior to taking the photo Smut's shakes has resulted in an out of focus picture.

Love these photos Past and Present.Would like to see more of them.Given the number of excellent photos posted here I reiterate M.O.M. maybe the Book should be a large coffee table style.

post #11616 of 19333
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Love these photos Past and Present.Would like to see more of them.Given the number of excellent photos posted here I reiterate M.O.M. maybe the Book should be a large coffee table style.

With Volumes 2 and 3....biggrin.gif
post #11617 of 19333
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

What's interesting about the inset shot is the way two of the lads are wearing their shirts outside their waistbands. This is a very 1969 thing. Many shirts back then were slim fit, cut straight and short at the bottom, and lads did wear that style of shirt like this from time to time. I occasionally did it myself, usually with my sta-prest, like the bloke on the right of the shot.

Especially Bank Holidays if my memory serves me.
post #11618 of 19333
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Not really. Things just get slack on here from time to time, until someone comes up with something new. We've done pretty well keeping it going for nearly 775 pages! smile.gif
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Exactly. Id have thought everyone would know it was a tongue in cheek comment.

Anyone with any sense knows that in genral, society was racist in those days. No one thought anything of calling an Asian a P*** or a Caribian a N*****. Not something people do these days and it is frowned apon and quite rightly so. But i bet all of you originals and most people on here, Hand on heart have used those words in the past. Id call you a liar if you havn't as it was common language used in the 60s and 70. As was C**** for chinese people especially restaurants and takeaways. Why is that any different, but i knows loads of people who still use that word these days and think its ok.

Surely the P word is only a shortended word for Pakistani same as Aus for Australia, Jap for Japan, States for United States of America. Just my take on it, surely it should be the way and reasoning you say it for an offence to be taken.
post #11619 of 19333
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

What's interesting about the inset shot is the way two of the lads are wearing their shirts outside their waistbands. This is a very 1969 thing. Many shirts back then were slim fit, cut straight and short at the bottom, and lads did wear that style of shirt like this from time to time. I occasionally did it myself, usually with my sta-prest, like the bloke on the right of the shot.

It was a summer look. I have some pictures of my brother in similar style from about 1971.
post #11620 of 19333
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

Just in keeping with the spirit of this thread - the 'social history' angle - it has been said before that Britain was generally more racist (in a casual way, if you know what I mean) than it is today. 'Original skinheads' were just ordinary kids, the vast majority were working class from the cities, would have had a fairly wide spread of views, but those views would have reflected society as a whole, and their upbringing and education and what was being said in the media. In the cities there was a lot of resentment and suspicion of South Asian immigrants - that's just a fact of life in the late 60s, that's how it was.

I always tried not to be racist, but looking back, I'm sometimes surprised by some of the crass things I used to say that I wouldn't say now. I remember thoroughly disliking the way that South Asian lads in their teens and twenties dressed, but on the other hand I had Caribbean and Asian friends at college. Outside of college, most of my mates were white. There were no South Asian mobs round our way, but if there had been and there had been any trouble, I would have pitched in for my mates and not given a thought to the colour of the opposing mob. That's just how it was.

Just saying.

There was paki-bashing it is true.

BUT there were not so many Asians around in the late 1960s. Expulsion of Ugandan Asians was in 1972 and that is when they colonised Wembley. Before that Indian kids you met would often have Christian names.
post #11621 of 19333
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post


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Exactly. Id have thought everyone would know it was a tongue in cheek comment.

Anyone with any sense knows that in genral, society was racist in those days. No one thought anything of calling an Asian a P*** or a Caribian a N*****. Not something people do these days and it is frowned apon and quite rightly so. But i bet all of you originals and most people on here, Hand on heart have used those words in the past. Id call you a liar if you havn't as it was common language used in the 60s and 70. As was C**** for chinese people especially restaurants and takeaways. Why is that any different, but i knows loads of people who still use that word these days and think its ok.

Surely the P word is only a shortended word for Pakistani same as Aus for Australia, Jap for Japan, States for United States of America. Just my take on it, surely it should be the way and reasoning you say it for an offence to be taken.

Early 70s calling a Black kid a Nigger would have got you a slap .. i had plenty of well dressed black pals and never used that word around em .

post #11622 of 19333
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post


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Exactly. Id have thought everyone would know it was a tongue in cheek comment.

Anyone with any sense knows that in genral, society was racist in those days. No one thought anything of calling an Asian a P*** or a Caribian a N*****. Not something people do these days and it is frowned apon and quite rightly so. But i bet all of you originals and most people on here, Hand on heart have used those words in the past. Id call you a liar if you havn't as it was common language used in the 60s and 70. As was C**** for chinese people especially restaurants and takeaways. Why is that any different, but i knows loads of people who still use that word these days and think its ok.

Surely the P word is only a shortended word for Pakistani same as Aus for Australia, Jap for Japan, States for United States of America. Just my take on it, surely it should be the way and reasoning you say it for an offence to be taken.

The word PAKI is not racist in itself but it was a term invented by racists so it became racist . If grown men think calling Chinese people Chinkys is ok then they are idiots .

post #11623 of 19333
Brits is an abbreviation the same as Paki was and Chink is.So why is ok for People to call us that Name but it is offensive to call the other two?As with the word Nigger,Whites cannot call them that,but the,Black Youth can call themselves Niggaz,and it is looked upon as "Street Cred".I was told off for calling an American a Yank(on another Forum)but there have been Film Titles with that word in it.I think People have become oversensitive.We older one had Fathers who fought for this Country,for Democracy-now we have Fascists telling us what to think and do.
post #11624 of 19333
To me there is no difference between a Right Wing Nazi and a Left Wing Marxist-yet one is demonised and one is hero worshipped.Do not forget,the Communists killed more Jews over the years(but so-called intellectuals ignore that small fact).
post #11625 of 19333

I don't like the term Yank because quite frankly I'm not from the eastern seaboard aka New England and none of my ancestors have lived there since the 1700's.

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