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post #11446 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

Really - never saw that coming. biggrin.gif

Seriously, it would never have crossed my mind and I do remember Man City launching that scarf - albeit difficult to identify in b/w - around 1971-ish... you live and learn. nod[1].gif

Agree Ed, a bit surprising but Dublin Blues connection goes back to early 70s.

The scarf was certainly around in 69; I got one for Christmas that year. Still have it in the loft - well, its replacement after I was "relieved" of it in early 70. I'll try to post that story later.
post #11447 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post

These may well be revival skins, but see the kid who's having his coat searched? Strides at that length, and with a turn-up like that - he's got a much better idea of how it was than these geezers you see with their skinny jeans rolled up to their knees!

Not all revival skinheads dressed like idiots.
Edited by harrysgame - 3/27/13 at 9:50am
post #11448 of 18908
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Originally Posted by McDermott View Post

Two questions..
1) why wouldnt that combination have been worn ? Because Cord jackets were usually worn with sta prest or the alike ? And by the time the rest of the outfit would catch on the boots would have been dropped and moved onto shoes ?
2) Does it matter ? Not having a go, but surely if you look smart you look smart. Im not talking about really pushing the boundries here (eg. Mixing much later 70's with early 60's) , but if its part of the 'uniform'..surely ? How are we, as the next Generation meant to know. I was at a soul nigh a couple of months ago and some guy made the effort to walk up to me and said 'we never had those' and Jabbed me in the cheek (referring to the sideburns) 'that was a rocker thing' and he sounded a bit annoyed. I said that hundreds would dissagree with him there, and also that photos would show otherwise. He then kept going at me about being a rocker, to which my Dad (who was there with me) said i wasnt and a soulie/skinhead. At which point the guy said to my dad 'oh yeah ? and where did you go ?' my dad answered with the usual ' what ? soul wise ? wigan casino, blackpool mecca, okeh club, central, cleethorpes etc'' and all this guy could say was..''so what was the first place in wigan that played soul music ?''. Its annoying you get these people with a chip on there shoulder who want you to fill out some sort of questionaire to be accepted, if he was my age or younger id have told him to fuck off ! Its ironic that these people who act like that, would have been back in the day most likely battered.

However, in saying that if someone came up and jut said along the lines of 'good try mate, looking sharp but...' or gave me constructive advice i would take it, as long as they did it respectfully. I guess it comes into the age old ' are we time travellers or do we just like the clothes' for me i like the clothes, part of the fun is getting it right and hunting down for the originals, but i would still wear what the fuck i like i want to !

You are right about being disrespectful and fair play to you for not giving the Elderly Gentleman a dig. Some of these people who claim to have been around in the day havn;t got much of a clue and just because they wore boots and had a skinhead haircut for ten minutes in the late sixties seem to think they are some sort of skinhead historian. Its the same with the revival period, just because they had a Specials record and a harrington they seem to believe they were everywhere.
Anyway, every soulie knows that Northern soul was played in Wilby, Northamptonshire before anywhere else in the early 60s.
Edited by harrysgame - 3/27/13 at 9:53am
post #11449 of 18908

I hope no one minds this.

A Friend on Facebook has just put me onto this, im in no way connected with the organisers but thought some on here would like it. 60's Reggae,ska and early northern/soul night in manchester not far from the station. Would be excellent since there is a lack of decent reggae doo's in the north, plus since manchester was once the breeding ground...

Opening night this saturday which i cant make, but ill be off the May one..

 

 

http://thenubeatclub.co.uk/

post #11450 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post

A tale of two polo shirts - take it for what it is.

http://www.theawl.com/2012/06/a-tale-of-two-tennis-shirts

Another great post Ed.Thanks.Didn't know there was a Fred Perry store in Soho(not a surprise though)Will have to check it out next time i'm in Minhattan(sic)(dats how the locals pronounce it)

post #11451 of 18908
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post


Not all revival skinheads dressed like idiots.

the vast majority did and the sorts / birds all looked more like punks than proper skinhead girls.

post #11452 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post

You are right browniecj,I was wrong to make such a sweeping statement.I think when looking back at anything in life you tend to remember the best and the worst examples of everything.As someone who is not involved in the scene,nor has been since the early '70s I just have my personal recollections to form opinions.I like the sound of what you say though and maybe I will visit one of the places you talk about .Do they have an "Old farts' corner? Cheers.

Yes Mate,I sit in it smile.gif
post #11453 of 18908
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Originally Posted by McDermott View Post

I hope no one minds this.
A Friend on Facebook has just put me onto this, im in no way connected with the organisers but thought some on here would like it. 60's Reggae,ska and early northern/soul night in manchester not far from the station. Would be excellent since there is a lack of decent reggae doo's in the north, plus since manchester was once the breeding ground...
Opening night this saturday which i cant make, but ill be off the May one..


http://thenubeatclub.co.uk/

That looks good.I saw Sugar Merchant in action at "The Hideaway-N/E 2009).There is a "YouTube" of his Set but it is very dark.I wont be able to make,this time but if it is regular will try some other time.
post #11454 of 18908
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Originally Posted by harrysgame View Post

You are right about being disrespectful and fair play to you for not giving the Elderly Gentleman a dig. Some of these people who claim to have been around in the day havn;t got much of a clue and just because they wore boots and had a skinhead haircut for ten minutes in the late sixties seem to think they are some sort of skinhead historian. Its the same with the revival period, just because they had a Specials record and a harrington they seem to believe they were everywhere.
Anyway, every soulie knows that Northern soul was played in Wilby, Northamptonshire before anywhere else in the early 60s.

Did Dave Godin visit it?He had to give it his "Seal Of Approval" and call it "Northern Soul" biggrin.gif
post #11455 of 18908
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Originally Posted by flyfronted View Post

the vast majority did and the sorts / birds all looked more like punks than proper skinhead girls.

What wave of the revival period are you talking about? 76-78? 79-82? 83-84 onwards? And even then these periods had differing elements eg from bonehead to skinhead to scooter boys to two tone. Also age and location also had an impact. I suppose its a bit the same as saying everyone in 68-72 were all smart and clued up.

 

As for the skinheads girls of that time, a bit of a statement to make. Agree there were many who took a more masculine look but there were also a good number who dressed like the original period, especially in 77/78 and then post 84-ish

post #11456 of 18908
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Originally Posted by Gsvs5 View Post

You are right browniecj,I was wrong to make such a sweeping statement.I think when looking back at anything in life you tend to remember the best and the worst examples of everything.As someone who is not involved in the scene,nor has been since the early '70s I just have my personal recollections to form opinions.I like the sound of what you say though and maybe I will visit one of the places you talk about .Do they have an "Old farts' corner? Cheers.

Hope you dont mind me commenting on this and fair play to you. The end of the 70s and early 80s for both skinheads and mods were quite odd really, those of us who were 17-19 and went through skinhead and then mod took the clothing and the music seriously - hunting across London for clobber and recordsd - but also took in other elements such as punk as well as the mod revival bands - for us we didnt want to emulate the approach the teddy boys took, living in a museum. But at the same time the press took up the return of these cults and then you started to see punks crossing over - and this I think had an impact for the bonehead look - ,many  young kids getting involved - especially with Quadrophenia and then Two Tone etc. Many of us moved on - it was totally elitist for many of us, being different - into casual etc.And I agree,as at any time, including now, there are the clued up and the clueless!

post #11457 of 18908

Browneicj

Did you ever go to the Seabright or the Norfolk? http://village-soul.com/page10.htm

Remember going to one of the early nights in 79 at the Bedford Head -might even have been the first -  and me and my mates looking like the odd ones out as mods and suedeheads in a place full of older soulies.

Tom

post #11458 of 18908

2 new outlet stores, Pringles and Aquascutum, have opened in Hackney, joining Burberry. The Aquascutum in particular has some excellent stuff and deals in - got 25% before Christmas -, Burberry isnt as good as it used to be but sometimes some decent stuff. In the next few months a few more are opening, including some Ivy orientated stores - I did suggest to my colleagues in regeneration that Brooks Brothers would be a good addition but no luck! If I hear of any extra discounts I'll let you know.

post #11459 of 18908
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

I must do better-regularly.


Not seen too often in the original Photos but much more in the 70 Skinhead ones-woollen Skullcaps,that sat on the back of the head-with 1/2 inch roll back.I think I have seen a Picture on here-but where???? smile.gif

Can't remember where that photo might be, browniecj but I did wear one of those myself from about 70 to 73 I think. Just a small size old-style football bobble hat with the bobble cut off - as you say turned up and worn on the back of the head. I might even still have mine somewhere (in City colours - same pattern as the Dublin girls' scarf: light blue, white with a maroon stripe) but I don't think I'll be wearing it again somehow shog[1].gif

post #11460 of 18908

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Originally Posted by elwood View Post


Agree Ed, a bit surprising but Dublin Blues connection goes back to early 70s.

The scarf was certainly around in 69; I got one for Christmas that year. Still have it in the loft - well, its replacement after I was "relieved" of it in early 70. I'll try to post that story later.
 
 

Here's my "Tale of Two City Scarves".

 

The scarf I got for Christmas 69 went North East - after we played Sunderland in early 1970.

 

Behind the Platt Lane stand at Maine Road there was a very narrow passage way that was a cut-through from the front of the stadium to the big car park behind the Kippax. I was taking that short cut with a mate to get to the Kippax turnstiles and meet some other mates. There were a few lads in front of us as we turned into the alley and a couple more immediately followed up behind us. We hadn't really paid any attention to them but it was soon one of those moments where you immediately know you'd taken a wrong turn.

 

They all turned on us and within seconds I was in a headlock and a big lad from Sunderland - bigger than me anyway, not that that was saying much at the time - in a dark brown cord Wrangler jacket was throttling me (easily done with a scarf knotted in the approved "muffler" fashion) and telling me in his Wearside tones to "give us yer scarf". It didn't take too much more strangulation before he had it.

 

I knew that if I went home without it and it came out that I'd had it pinched that would be the end of my trips to Maine Road. So, somehow between me and my mates we managed to scrape together 17/6 (pre-decimal money: 87.5p post-decimal) to buy an identical replacement from the souvenir shop. Not a small amount at the time: enough to pay for 8 junior entrances at 2/3 to the Kippax. Really don't know how we managed it.

 

So I went home with a scarf, even if it wasn't the same one I went out with and that's the one that's in my loft now.

 

To top it off, as we got back to the station to catch the train home who should be hanging around on the concourse but our friends from the alleyway. Dark brown Wrangler jacket's face was a picture. He did a double take as he saw the scarf round my neck and tried to work out how I'd magically got it back. There were lots of coppers on the station for the departure of the football special back to the North East. We timed the walk to our platform so that one of them was between us and the alleyway boys and nipped on to our train. City lost one-nil that day but that was my own last minute equaliser.

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