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post #1111 of 24891
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Originally Posted by loempiavreter View Post
I got myself a deadstock Levi Sta-Prest in this colour payed a good bit of money on it.
it was a bit to long, so I cut it shorter, but I fucked up and now it's ruined. Since then I never dare to buy another again.



Hehe, could be possible in a few occassions. But not every mod was like those gangs from Somers Town or Stepney Green.


How short? I like mine at 27.5" inseam so maybe it's salvageable.
post #1112 of 24891
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Now, this has prompted me to mention something I've been thought for a long time. Even though Reggae is synomynous with the original Skinheads, it seems that in the North soul was of equal importance, even maybe more so, than Reggae with the Northern Skins. Were there many Reggae clubs in the North and was it as popular as down South?

If there were any reggae clubs as such in the North I don't know of them. The Blue Note was just around the corner from the Wheel and it became known for playing a lot of Rocksteady and Reggae due to the amount of West Indians that got in there, but it also played soul and was not known as a reggae club. In much the same way, our local Mecca had a room where the skins would gravitate to, that played a lot of Motown and soul with some Reggae and other pop music. Reggae was popular with skins but no more so than soul and Motown, but there was a lot more soul to be heard than the limited amount of reggae that was available.
Nowadays, up here, soul is still the favoured music of that generation of skinheads and suedeheads (suedehead was a term people called themselves by up here) where as largely reggae is almost forgotten and remembered in a nostalgic way like something they had forgotten all about.
post #1113 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Ancillotti View Post
Nowadays, up here, soul is still the favoured music of that generation of skinheads and suedeheads (suedehead was a term people called themselves by up here) where as largely reggae is almost forgotten and remembered in a nostalgic way like something they had forgotten all about.

Have to agree with this as a Northerner myself, I have friends who, at the time, referred to themselves as 'suedeheads' and didn't really like reggae, but were very into soul.

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Those jean-jackets are just SO Northern!

I hope you aren't being disparaging about our Northern fashions, Mr. Mystery! Was the term 'jean-jacket' used then? I have only ever heard of the terms 'denim jacket' or 'Levi' or 'Wrangler' for that matter! Seriously though, I think there were differences in the style as worn up North and differences between each town / estate as well.
post #1114 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Little Queenie View Post
I hope you aren't being disparaging about our Northern fashions, Mr. Mystery!
Not at all! Wore one myself when I lived in Blackpool! (I hate the pic below) This one's not much better either.
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Originally Posted by Little Queenie View Post
Was the term 'jean-jacket' used then? I have only ever heard of the terms 'denim jacket' or 'Levi' or 'Wrangler' for that matter!
It was a common term in retail at the time, because the jacket matched the jeans. In Blackpool we usually called it by the make, e.g. "Levi Jacket" or "Wrangler Jacket".
post #1115 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
Now, that I can't say, as I wasn't there. I was down South! However, given the strength that Soul still had up there, and given that there was a more cohesive West Indian community in London, I would doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Ancillotti View Post
If there were any reggae clubs as such in the North I don't know of them. The Blue Note was just around the corner from the Wheel and it became known for playing a lot of Rocksteady and Reggae due to the amount of West Indians that got in there, but it also played soul and was not known as a reggae club. In much the same way, our local Mecca had a room where the skins would gravitate to, that played a lot of Motown and soul with some Reggae and other pop music. Reggae was popular with skins but no more so than soul and Motown, but there was a lot more soul to be heard than the limited amount of reggae that was available.
Nowadays, up here, soul is still the favoured music of that generation of skinheads and suedeheads (suedehead was a term people called themselves by up here) where as largely reggae is almost forgotten and remembered in a nostalgic way like something they had forgotten all about.

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Originally Posted by Little Queenie View Post
Have to agree with this as a Northerner myself, I have friends who, at the time, referred to themselves as 'suedeheads' and didn't really like reggae, but were very into soul.

Cheers guys, that kinda confirms some of my theory that soul was of equal importance to the original generation as reggae was at least in the North. It also suggests that skin/suedehead/whatever you want to call it (crombie-boys/gangs is another one I've heard of), in the north really was a continuation/different style of mod rather than a seperate cult, also given the continued popularity of scooters during the period. (The Soul Stylist theory - though some may disagree no doubt)

From what I've read/heard a lot of the northern scooterists in the mid/late '70s still referred to themselves as mods before the revival even though they'd be wearing the standard 70s kit of flared jeans, long hair etc.

As with a lot of style cults the perceived wisdom tended to be London-centric (well in the pre-internet era anyway). There is still a lot of debate as to where casuals started proper, Liverpool or London (I'm gonna be unpatriotic and say Liverpool! )
post #1116 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Southlondongent View Post
Cheers guys, that kinda confirms some of my theory that soul was of equal importance to the original generation as reggae was at least in the North. It also suggests that skin/suedehead/whatever you want to call it (crombie-boys/gangs is another one I've heard of), in the north really was a continuation/different style of mod rather than a seperate cult, also given the continued popularity of scooters during the period. (The Soul Stylist theory - though some may disagree no doubt)

From what I've read/heard a lot of the northern scooterists in the mid/late '70s still referred to themselves as mods before the revival even though they'd be wearing the standard 70s kit of flared jeans, long hair etc.

As with a lot of style cults the perceived wisdom tended to be London-centric (well in the pre-internet era anyway). There is still a lot of debate as to where casuals started proper, Liverpool or London (I'm gonna be unpatriotic and say Liverpool! )
I have had a similar conversation regarding Jean Jackets,being worn in the 60s by London Skins.I bought my Levi one about `68 and wore it (mainly) with my Jungle Greens.I saw other Skins about the same time doing the same.The only thing we did not do,is put the Levi Patch on the front of the Jacket.
As regards to Check Trousers,in late `69 you could go to the "Cut", near Waterloo Station,and get Mohair Trousers off the peg-with Stripes and Checks.Always been my favourites!
post #1117 of 24891
Don't normally look through online hipster stores, but I did today and found two (what I think might be) gems.
A jacket that's essentially a Harrington, with the stripes of a Monkey Jacket and a gingham lining.
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban...edProductSize=

Next is a mustard colo(u)red cardigan that I believe someone wanted to get their hands on earlier in the thread (maybe GetSmart?).
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban...edProductSize=

...Now that I'm thinking about it, I think they were looking for a waffle-knit mustard cardigan, my apologies.
post #1118 of 24891
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post
.The only thing we did not do,is put the Levi Patch on the front of the Jacket.
That was a very Northern thing in '67.
post #1119 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
That was a very Northern thing in '67.
post #1120 of 24891
this thread is fucking dynamite!

carry on.
post #1121 of 24891
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Originally Posted by elmore View Post
carry on.

As long as there's material, we'll keep posting it!
post #1122 of 24891
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Originally Posted by DrBassie View Post
How short? I like mine at 27.5" inseam so maybe it's salvageable.

Should've fit you then, but I already sold it a while ago.
post #1123 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery View Post
As long as there's material, we'll keep posting it!
There will always be the things to remember-good times(and some bad!)
post #1124 of 24891
Do you still take care of selvedge when buying jeans? Or you are not interested in it these days? It seems to be impossible to get selvedge 501 in 36 or 38 waist for decent price, so i'm totally stuck with normal chain stitching (or whatever it's called)

How important was the selvedge in old days? And did you ever take care how jeans were wide on calves (prefered slim fit, regular fit...) ?
post #1125 of 24891
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Originally Posted by Big Muscle View Post
Do you still take care of selvedge when buying jeans? Or you are not interested in it these days? It seems to be impossible to get selvedge 501 in 36 or 38 waist for decent price, so i'm totally stuck with normal chain stitching (or whatever it's called)

How important was the selvedge in old days? And did you ever take care how jeans were wide on calves (prefered slim fit, regular fit...) ?
When buying the old "Shrink to Wear" Levis,back in the 60s,after sitting in the Bath-or wading into the Sea(which I did on numerous occasions the Fit seemed ok.As with Selvedge I am still out with the Jury.A Mate of mine buys Samuria and rates them.I need to speak to my Bank Manager about this Subject.
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