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post #10981 of 19148

I have a pair of Saxone Penny Loafers, and a pair of Plain Saxone Weegians.

 

Both in Oxblood, Ill dig em out and send you a pic of the penny loafers if you want, they're not chunky like the ones you describe, more like a Bass tbh.

post #10982 of 19148
A bit of useless Info.Bunty.Saxone,Lilley and Skinner etc.,were all part of the British Shoe Corporation(in the 60s)When you were a Member of Staff,some of the Branches let you have discount.When I was a Shop Manager in Brixton,the Saxone Shop opposite used to let me have Shoes discounted.

Now I am racking my Brain but Clarks came out with the Desert Boot first.It was the same with Hush Puppy-never a Fashion Shoe but became fashionable.
post #10983 of 19148
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MoM, I found a site on internet with retail price index info. That suggests RPI has gone up 14x since 1969 - which would put the current equivalent for the 7 guinea Royals at about £102. That seems a bit low to me but maybe shoe price inflation is even higher (due to lots of guys 50+ pursuing certain shoes?smile.gif) or the decline in craftsman-based UK shoe industry?

RPI is a tricky one, because not only is shoe price inflation greater than that of many things at the moment (due to the worldwide price of leather, craftsman vs factory-made, fashion etc), but the RPI has been calculated in different ways over the years.

 

Perhaps more revealing is to compare prices for certain things with the average UK wage, which you can get from the Financial Times (if you want to go back to the '60s) and the Office of National Statistics (more recent years and current figures).

 

That'll give you an idea of what proportion of someone's wage would have to be spent to buy shoes of whatever. Granted the average wage figure has its problems too, but last time I did the sums -- about two years ago -- a pair of DMs were more than three times more expensive, relative to wages, than the were in 1960 (a pair of bog standard 8 eyelet boots cost £2 in 1960; today the equivalent costs £180, but they were about £160 two years ago).

post #10984 of 19148
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I didn't expect that!
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I was an apprentice on £4.00 per week there we mates in our gang a couple of years older than me who were labouring on sites and they were on £16 - £18 per week and i wondered why I was bothering with an apprenticeship.  So I would say your memory is still sound

I felt sure it was, somehow. I can remember how good it was to get that wage packet. I had made a total fcuking mess of college and spent all that time poncing off my parents, and suddenly I was earning! Hence blewing so much on a pair of shoes from Bewrer Street.
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post #10986 of 19148
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(Wives turning into mothers - surely not?) happy.gif

I've been calling Mrs Mystery 'Mummy' for years! wink.gif
post #10987 of 19148
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Back to the old days M-o-M smile.gif Seeing what you wanted,and then saving up for it.Oh! the joy......

No credit cards back then.
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A pair of Churches Plaincaps in Cordovan are £500, In 1969 Royals from the Squire shop was around £8.

That's the comparison that knocks me over - half my weekly wage in 1969, nearly half my monthly pension in 2013!
post #10989 of 19148
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THE best ever Skinhead picture ?  every kid in this looks top draw

I remember that pic. I was convinced the photographer was trying to wangle an upskirt from the girl.

By 1971 I had an office job in London, and I wore my crombie to work. As my hair grew I began to look like some kind of brown-haired Hassidic Jew, particularly as I didn't like to wear a tie outside the office. All I needed was a Homburg hat...
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Clarks came out with the Desert Boot first.

Absolutely as I remember. I have a pair of their modern re-issues. Not the most sensible shoe for Scotland! biggrin.gif
post #10991 of 19148
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Have you got the loafers Gramps? (any pics if you have?) I remember those and Stuarts being brands that us Mod revival nippers wore. I never did get those black leather boxing/wrestling boots (like Keith Moon used to wear) though. biggrin.gif

Don't get this present fixation with Clarks desert boots though, in the old photos you see all different types and brands being worn. I thought the Ravel desert boots were more popular in the 60s anyway?

Clarks Desert Boots available year in year out.And they come in 1/2 sizes.

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I remember that pic. I was convinced the photographer was trying to wangle an upskirt from the girl.

By 1971 I had an office job in London, and I wore my crombie to work. As my hair grew I began to look like some kind of brown-haired Hassidic Jew, particularly as I didn't like to wear a tie outside the office. All I needed was a Homburg hat...

Its THE 'Skinhead' look that i remember most - Brolly boys .

post #10993 of 19148
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That Teddy Boy link mentioned The Cosh Boys, that's the spivvy lot that I read about somewhere. Brilliant reading, thanks.

Anyone have any info. on 'Blitz kids' (another moral panic) ? The 1940s variety, not the New Romantics biggrin.gif

Here's another one Bunty, the Toff Boys, earlier then the Teddy boys, as these kids roamed the London streets of the 1940s
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Wot about the Teddy Boys mate THEY had REAL CLASS and how historic that they originated in Curzon Crescent, Harlesden in the mid 1950's and the first suits were sold by Austin the Tailors near the Jubilee Clock for 10quid. Then kids from Notting Hill Gate, London liked what they saw and the INDEPENDENCE being part of a TEENAGE group meant and so the rest is history about the Teddy Boys. Willesden Skinheads with their Bover Boots were a LOT different and came much later. Teddy Boys WALKED or used public transport. Skinheads used scooters. Before either there was the Toff Boys f the 1940's who used the little toffee hammers to hit people over the head before taking the victim's wallet or handbag. Toff Boys originated in the East End of London but soon spread to places like Harlesden and Willesden. Author Leslie Chartris, he of The Saint fame, wrote a few books about the Toff boys.

Yes Willesden and Harlesden have had their days of gang crime and so such still goes on. Brent once the murder capital of Europe!
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post #10994 of 19148
''Wot about the Teddy Boys mate THEY had REAL CLASS and how historic that they originated in Curzon Crescent, Harlesden in the mid 1950's and the first suits were sold by Austin the Tailors near the Jubilee Clock for 10quid. Then kids from Notting Hill Gate, London liked what they saw and the INDEPENDENCE being part of a TEENAGE group meant and so the rest is history about the Teddy Boys. Willesden Skinheads with their Bover Boots were a LOT different and came much later. Teddy Boys WALKED or used public transport. Skinheads used scooters. Before either there was the Toff Boys f the 1940's who used the little toffee hammers to hit people over the head before taking the victim's wallet or handbag. Toff Boys originated in the East End of London but soon spread to places like Harlesden and Willesden. Author Leslie Chartris, he of The Saint fame, wrote a few books about the Toff boys.

Yes Willesden and Harlesden have had their days of gang crime and so such still goes on. Brent once the murder capital of Europe! ''

I used to be able to walk around Harlesden without fear as a kid. Curzon Crescent had flats that had a bad reputation. I used to walk down St Marys Road past them to get to my aunt's house near Roundwood Park. I remember having a football nicked once; but we got it back. In the 60s it was different to today though. No shootings or routine stabbings. Mugging was not commonplace either.

The other side of the North Circular, Wembley was a well-regarded shopping destination before Brent Cross. It is now a Third World dump. All the good shops are long gone.
post #10995 of 19148

Hello ,

Just joined the forum and want to thank all the contributors for bringing back some fond distant memories.I hope to bring a few to the table in the near future and return the smiles you brought to my face.I consider myself to have been a mod since around 1968.I believe that Mod is a state of mind,an awareness if you will that comes from somewhere back in the day and permeates your taste and choices for life.I'm lucky to have spent my youth in the Midlands,my teens in the South, London as a young man,and New York as an adult .

So I think I can safely say to many that "I know where you're coming from mate".

Dave

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