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Don't Mods just turn into skinheads when their hair falls out? wink.gif

Hey Folks check out Mr.David Reeves bringin his talents to the NYC.

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I know what you mean. You've kinda hit the nail on the head. Blokes like myself who were late mods / older skinheads still had a bit of the 'music culture' of the mods (that was a bit of cultural baggage I brought down from the North with me, and that's why I spent such a lot of time in the West Indian record shop in Deptford); but when the skinhead thing really took off the kids coming into it more or less accepted the music that was there - what I call the 'dancehall reggae' - and didn't become enthusiastic record collectors or anything like that.

The DJ at the Savoy Rooms in Catford, Steve Maxted, wasn't even close to being a skinhead. Good DJ, though.He played what the customers wanted to hear, and that was that. Lot's of 'dancehall reggae' (what people call 'skinhead reggae' these days, but we never really called it anything at the time except reggae) and Motown, and eventually things like Norman Greenbaum.

You mentioned T-Rex. I went to see them at Lewisham Odeon in 1971, with a whole bunch of ex-skinhead mates. You're right again - the popularity of bands like T-Rex signalled the end of the skinhead era, in London at any rate.

Great stuff illustrating the transistion.You and browniecj are a little older than some of these other guys.Going from Mod to Skin to Suede (like browniecj has said)movin on to Northern Soul,and in other cases T-Rex (one of my favorites) your part of the story is especially interesting and important.When you describe the younger kids comin into it danceing to dancehall it makes sense.The thing that strikes me about this story is the mods and then skins were sharing a musical awareness.Jamaicans listened to American R&B and reggae and so did thier nieghbors.Compared to the larger uk population this was a big deal.You say you use to scour the markets for jamaican records so,it must of been underground.At that time especially in the US folks weren't tryin hard to mix with the other half.You guys made it a non issue and that carried over into football hooliganism ever since.It appears that way from a distance.Truth is I love all the Jamaican music over the years and Marvin Gaye  was Above the rest.A unique american Artist.In short this is great forthe book IMHO.

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Every Saturday morning I would queue up at Desmonds` Hip Record Centre in Brixton and wait for the new arrivals.When you went to Clubs,you had to be bloody good with the ears.Jamaican Djs scratched out the Title and Singer(because it was their exclusive Tune),so you could not go and ask for the Title etc.In the Jamaican Clubs it was very competitive between the Sound Systems and sometimes rival Factions would fight.When I travelled around London I would look at other Record Shops and Stalls.Another of my favourite Places was Shepherds Bush Market.The reason,I believe,for me liking these two was because you were near two well established Black Areas.And it seemed the Records were newer here,than in other parts of London.

The thing that makes me just as keen for Music,is there are different Influences being played at various Dos.Ok,so it is in the 60s and 70s(more so now),but so much is out there.smile.gif
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post

Every Saturday morning I would queue up at Desmonds` Hip Record Centre in Brixton and wait for the new arrivals.When you went to Clubs,you had to be bloody good with the ears.Jamaican Djs scratched out the Title and Singer(because it was their exclusive Tune),so you could not go and ask for the Title etc.In the Jamaican Clubs it was very competitive between the Sound Systems and sometimes rival Factions would fight.When I travelled around London I would look at other Record Shops and Stalls.Another of my favourite Places was Shepherds Bush Market.The reason,I believe,for me liking these two was because you were near two well established Black Areas.And it seemed the Records were newer here,than in other parts of London.

The thing that makes me just as keen for Music,is there are different Influences being played at various Dos.Ok,so it is in the 60s and 70s(more so now),but so much is out there.smile.gif

Did you frequent 'the Roaring Twenties ' off Carnaby st ? my mate Trevor ( the black chelsea skinhead in the danny dyer sketch ) met his wife there and said it was the no 1 club in london at the time - full of gangsters , working girls , visiting JA and USA stars plus black and skinhead faces ?. 

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browniecj.Boy about town.Great stuff.     flyfronted,intriguing,love those kinda bars.Undercover/Offduty cops  where I went.

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Here's a couple of piccy's I ain't seen on 'ere yet .. (unless I just miss 'em)  .. They were tagged as ' Sheffield Skinheads trip to Skegness , May 1971

 

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Did you frequent 'the Roaring Twenties ' off Carnaby st ? my mate Trevor ( the black chelsea skinhead in the danny dyer sketch ) met his wife there and said it was the no 1 club in london at the time - full of gangsters , working girls , visiting JA and USA stars plus black and skinhead faces ?. 

Was the Roaring Twenties around in the Mid 70s, about the same time as Crackers in Wardour St. Never really liked the West End back then fcuking sleazy place.
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Was the Roaring Twenties around in the Mid 70s, about the same time as Crackers in Wardour St. Never really liked the West End back then fcuking sleazy place.

No it was off Carnaby st late 60s - early 70s - count suckle owned it . 

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The Spin Inn and Top of the Town for us:

http://www.manchesterbeat.com/venues/manchester_cbd/rowntrees/rowntrees.php

Ed.Thanks for the link.   ScorcherGB  Great color pics 

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No it was off Carnaby st late 60s - early 70s - count suckle owned it . 

Thats correct flyfronted and yes I did go-on the occasions when the Doorman(could be funny B*st*rds) let you in.It was a seedy Club,but then so were other great Clubs.Another I used to go to was the "Limbo" along with the odd trip to "The Ram Jam"in Brixton.It was through these Clubs that I got to into the Jamaican Sound System.Reggae was nothing,unless played on these Systems.I think that is why I am deaf these days(used to stand right in front of the Speakers!!!!) smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Was the Roaring Twenties around in the Mid 70s, about the same time as Crackers in Wardour St. Never really liked the West End back then fcuking sleazy place.

Anywhere "Up West" you had to keep your wits about you.It was not always Skinheads you had to keep an eye open for.For a time,it was where you could go to great Clubs and listen to great Music-but then it went cr*p.Some of the Clubs I went to,were unLicensed so the Old Bill was getting pressured into closing them(and clean up Soho).This took a while-with a few of their number getting arrested etc.

Quite a few years later,I was running a Soul Do in a Bar,in Hanway Street W.1.It had Duty Free Booze on sale and(as I found out later)no License.Something things never change.I had 6 months out of it though!!!
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Chuka and Dubem, they were in my brothers year and I was the year above with their brother Francis. Really nice blokes and have bumped into them from time to time over the years. The last article about them was http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2007/apr/10/fashion.features11 They are on the cover of Street Style

 

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I should have said hello before posting, where are my manners! Some on here know me from other boards but basically............

 

I'm Tom, born in London in 1961. Remember quite a bit of the end of the 60s/early 70s, especially as my aunts, uncles and cousins were mods and skinheads - mainly dependent on their age... then into the 70s, got involved in punk in early 76, became a skinhead briefly in 77 and then quickly a suedehead up until around 83/84 and then a casual. 

 

Cheers

 

Tom 

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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Anywhere "Up West" you had to keep your wits about you.It was not always Skinheads you had to keep an eye open for.For a time,it was where you could go to great Clubs and listen to great Music-but then it went cr*p.Some of the Clubs I went to,were unLicensed so the Old Bill was getting pressured into closing them(and clean up Soho).This took a while-with a few of their number getting arrested etc.

Quite a few years later,I was running a Soul Do in a Bar,in Hanway Street W.1.It had Duty Free Booze on sale and(as I found out later)no License.Something things never change.I had 6 months out of it though!!!

Contempo was down there wasnt it . Used to do the friday afternoon import session after Crackers up there . Rueben Wilson 'got to get your own ' LP my first buy .

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