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post #10156 of 18401
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post

Squaddie's are years behind in fashion, they was wearing white socks up until the 80s,biggrin.gif Yes white socks was considered Squaddie and Paddy wear but this was in the mid 70s long after the skinheads had move on.smile.gif
Socks was a important part of young skinhead fashion, what was popular for a while, Red Fred Perry, Crombie, Red Pocket Hanky, and Red Socks, Orange was also popular a very 70s colour,smile.gif

In Guildford,on a Friday/Saturday Night,Squaddies used to gather in two Pubs(Horse and Groom & Seven Stars).They were 17/18 year olds from Manchester etc and some would be wearing Skinhead Stuff-this was where I saw Jean Jackets with the Labels outside.White Socks was definitely a Fashion worn by them,that is how it got associated with them,(the 70s and 80s,I was nowhere near an Army Town-East London,so I did not know what they were wearing then).As I have said,myself and older Skins would not wear white Socks(some wore red) because of this.smile.gif
post #10157 of 18401
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Love the photo of boots Ed.Here is a similar pic reposted from a few pages back.


And another.


I knew you was a wolf in sheeps clothing browniecj.Bustin' Up Brighton.
post #10158 of 18401
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Originally Posted by Ed Vaughan View Post




Original caption:Southend, Essex:

'These boots tell a sad story. The "Skinheads" who come mainly from London's East End, began a rampage in Southend recently, but didn't get very far. Police confiscated their braces, belts and shoe laces, rendering them immobile.

'Even so, there were 37 arrests and a number of fights. Police action was effective also at yielding an assortment of razors and iron bars. The "Skinheads" are so called because of their closely cropped hair. Every gang member wears teh braces, belts and boots.'

4/7/1970

Interesting to see the different Boots being worn-at the same time as Dr.Martens.Always thought everybody wore them-when they became popular.


Yankmod,me and about 300 Skinheads smile.gif
post #10159 of 18401
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Interesting to see the different Boots being worn-at the same time as Dr.Martens.Always thought everybody wore them-when they became popular.


Yankmod,me and about 300 Skinheads smile.gif


I wondered about whether the photo was authentic. Everyone I knew wore Martens (and that's what we called them, not DM's) ,or possibly officer boots, on a day out to the seaside.The boy in the middle doesn't quite look right.The boy on the right looks like he is wearing a sheepskin so it could have been Easter but apart from him they look like they are from out of town and not from East London.

post #10160 of 18401
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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post


 I was there in Southend when the Police confiscated the braces,belts and boot laces. I think the first time was Easter Bank holiday 1970.They also took away our steel combs which were an accessory we carried even though we generally had No.4 haircuts.The police were waiting at the two mainline stations for trains arriving from East London/Essex borders. We were hurded against the wall and the police carried out their work. I don't remember any Razors or iron bars. We were on a day out. It took us 5 minutes to find an M &S in the High road selling thick cord string which we cut up and tied the top eyelets of our boots. Police were inspecting our boots all day long. We were told to return to Southend Police station at the end of the day to collect our stuff. Not many bothered but we did just for the crack. A reporter from the now defunct Daily Sketch was at the Police HQ. and they took a team photo of our crew which I seem to remember appeared on the front page of the newspaper the next day. At the last minute I dodged out of view because I was keeping a low profile.One mate stayed in shot and the next day he got up early and removed the front page of his delivered newspaper before his dad saw the headlines. Trouble occurred at the Kursal with the fairground Geezers and along the seafront when a small group of greasers rode into town.The Dagenham Heathway mob also had a minor fracas between themselves.Most of the skinheads were from East/North London and supported West Ham or Spurs. An unofficial truce between rival gangs took place that day and the chanting was generally 'London United'.

Welcome - This was very similar to our firms regular visit to Margate.  Although we never had our laces removed by the Old Bill.  We usually got pulled over on arrival as we marched down the front and were lined up against the railings of the prom where we had to quickly drop knives and sharpened metal combs over the rails prior to being searched onto the beach  - much to the horror and amusement of families with kids sunbathing on the beach below.  I can see it as clear anything to this day

post #10161 of 18401
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Originally Posted by browniecj View Post


Interesting to see the different Boots being worn-at the same time as Dr.Martens.Always thought everybody wore them-when they became popular.


 

Your right we all wore them once we could afford them but I remember the build up of different boots before i bought my first DMs ie monkey boots, high leg cherry commando boots.  My first DMs were the low 8 eyelet? and then when the 10 or 12 eyelet ? that was the business and still been buying ever since. 

 

Around 1974 I bought a pair of brown DMs that came up to a few inches below the knees approx 20 eyelet ? and were around £22 probably £300 in to days money.  I hardly wore these out as they were so good.  But of course by then the fashion had moved on and I think I only then used them when going out shooting and then my feet grew too big and they would have been slung out.  They would have been worth a few bob today to a collector !!!

post #10162 of 18401

Re: White socks. A squaddie thing in the late '70s early 80s. Often loop stitch, worn with desert boots and Army lightweights or later, shortish jeans and blue/yellow Reebok trainers (the first ones to have the shape of modern trainers, which looked very strange at first back then). Also for a while Dunlop Green flash (I think they were called) had some cachet. Once estate agents started to wear white socks, it was all over.

 

It was regarded as slightly rebellious to wear red socks in the late '60s/very early '70s, which we ALL did back then. 

post #10163 of 18401
Welcome Bob the Badger to the Site.Good to see your bit about Southend.

Watermelon Man,I wore Green Flash in the Summer-about `68.
post #10164 of 18401
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Originally Posted by Bob the Badger View Post


I wondered about whether the photo was authentic. Everyone I knew wore Martens (and that's what we called them, not DM's) ,or possibly officer boots, on a day out to the seaside.The boy in the middle doesn't quite look right.The boy on the right looks like he is wearing a sheepskin so it could have been Easter but apart from him they look like they are from out of town and not from East London.
Hi Bob - and welcome.

The pic is 100% genuine - and available to buy from Corbis Images, a highly respected photographic agency - and even the typo in the text is theirs, too.

The date and detailing come from source, though that's not to say the journo/photographer didn't exercise some 'licence' when they submitted the item to the respective newsdesk(s) for publication.

Journalists, eh? satisfied.gif

FTR: I never wore white socks, ever, though I had a dabble with red ones, briefly. And even today, my sock drawer looks like the inside of a black cat's arse - at night. biggrin.gif
post #10165 of 18401

The great Fred Perry used to wear them too:

 

http://www.dunlopgreenflash.co.uk/dunlop-green-flash-history/

 

Not a skinhead thing, though. Black Adidas Sambas were the buniness. Still are, really smile.gif

post #10166 of 18401

Gents.Whats a squaddie?

post #10167 of 18401
Bunty's useless information no.53 -

In WW2 fighter pilots of the 601 Squadron wore red socks as an esprit de corps.

Told you it was useless biggrin.gif

Welcome Bob, I've heard a bit about Southend 1970, from a group of lads from North London funnily enough - they thought they were being clever getting off at the stop before Southend and walking in, that old chestnut!....milling around mob handed chanting 'zigger zagger' and generally being 'orrible but as you said, 'on a day out' certainly not armed or anything like that. In fact it was a bank holiday tradition to go to the coast anyway, going way back, before Mods/Rockers/Skinheads.

Good find again Ed.
post #10168 of 18401
All photos where marked as 1972, but the first one is most probably earlier, something like 1970 .
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Circa 1968, there's another picture from this set that I will pm to MoM for I think that's a potential book cover picture... One his friends with his back pressed against the schoolboard while words with chalk "skinhead" "bovver" "boots" where made around him.



1967-1968




Post-Skinhead look for some of these kids? Did find 'em with a skinhead tag somewhere.
1972 Margate

post #10169 of 18401
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Originally Posted by yankmod View Post

Gents.Whats a squaddie? A Soldier,Yankmod

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Originally Posted by Watermelon man View Post

The great Fred Perry used to wear them too:

http://www.dunlopgreenflash.co.uk/dunlop-green-flash-history/

Not a skinhead thing, though. Black Adidas Sambas were the buniness. Still are, really smile.gif It was a Mod thing more.

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Originally Posted by loempiavreter View Post

All photos where marked as 1972, but the first one is most probably earlier, something like 1970 .
CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 85




Circa 1968, there's another picture from this set that I will pm to MoM for I think that's a potential book cover picture... One his friends with his back pressed against the schoolboard while words with chalk "skinhead" "bovver" "boots" where made around him.



1967-1968




Post-Skinhead look for some of these kids? Did find 'em with a skinhead tag somewhere.
1972 Margate


Good Photos,loempiavreter smile.gif
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Bugger me, I thought that was Blur ! biggrin.gif Fantastic photos.

Good to see the Luncheon Voucher sticker on the window in the first photo too biggrin.gif
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