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I would like to say great story bunty, I do have a few questions though, why didn't they like watford did they consider people from watford white trash in places like Wembley or Golders Green? Did you ever carry some white socks just in case to get into certain places? and who are these guys causing trouble for too much "flash" as you call it? were they rival dare I say "gangs" or just the average shit talker who likes to prove they are tough? did they also not like you because they could tell you were from a certain area? do accents play as much a role today as they did back then in determining where someone is from?

Also Lasttye what was so tough about Kilburn and was there any incident where the locals didn't like the talk you are throwing out or was there such a lack of skinheads that it wasn't possible there?

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I was thinking '68.

Details said circa '68.
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Details said circa '68.

Thank-you, any more information? Knowing the provenance of these photographs makes them much more valuable!
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I would like to say great story bunty, I do have a few questions though, why didn't they like watford did they consider people from watford white trash in places like Wembley or Golders Green? Did you ever carry some white socks just in case to get into certain places? and who are these guys causing trouble for too much "flash" as you call it? were they rival dare I say "gangs" or just the average shit talker who likes to prove they are tough? did they also not like you because they could tell you were from a certain area? do accents play as much a role today as they did back then in determining where someone is from?


Also Lasttye what was so tough about Kilburn and was there any incident where the locals didn't like the talk you are throwing out or was there such a lack of skinheads that it wasn't possible there?

Their was no gangs around Golders Green, only Jews, We use to get in a couple of clubs there the Phonograph, and the Cavalier,
Wembley had a small gang...that we was friendly with.
White socks was worn in the very early days, Lads would wear them with a nice White Ben Sherman, Use to look ally under those violet lights that was all the go in the 60s/70s.
Then lads would start to wear every colour...use to get those lovely towelling socks out of the Squire shop expensive but nice feeling with your Royals.
Regarding The Kilburn Aggro Mob I have wrote so much on here about them ...just check out previous pages, its all there,smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Sirryacus View Post

I would like to say great story bunty, I do have a few questions though, why didn't they like watford did they consider people from watford white trash in places like Wembley or Golders Green? Did you ever carry some white socks just in case to get into certain places? and who are these guys causing trouble for too much "flash" as you call it? were they rival dare I say "gangs" or just the average shit talker who likes to prove they are tough? did they also not like you because they could tell you were from a certain area? do accents play as much a role today as they did back then in determining where someone is from?


East London ,you can more or less tell who comes from the different Parts.There are/were certain words in the Vocabulary that would identify an East Londoner-as compared to a South or West Londoner.They are also considered "Flashier",though this is not always the Case."Manors" were very important to keep to-otherwise there would be a kicking.If you went "Mob Handed" then you were out for Trouble.Alliances were made and broken quickly,though some stayed the course.
I did not wear White Socks,around Guildford they were considered "Squaddie Wear".I agree with the Squires Shop Socks-there was some good Colours.
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Great stuff Lasttye and browniecj.The white sox conundrum.I've only worn white sox since 12 or so.Even with a suit(which I've worn a few times in 20 years)

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Do you think those fights looked similar to this?

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BTW no one need bother with these 508 sta prest http://www.stuartslondon.com/trousers-c35/chinos-c38/levi-s-levis-sta-prest-508-black-twill-trouser-97828-0004-p6445

 

They are just hipster pants in disguise. The leg is nice but they don't have a waist they are so low cut and they aren't even black, more of a charcoal gray.

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Then lads would start to wear every colour...use to get those lovely towelling socks out of the Squire shop expensive but nice feeling with your Royals.

I remember those well, Roy!
post #10150 of 19327
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Do you think those fights looked similar to this?

Yes,but the other way around.We would smash into the Greaser Cafe and start laying into them.Got involved in one of these,one Bank Holiday in `69(Brighton).The Cafe got totally wrecked.smile.gif
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Squaddie's are years behind in fashion, they was wearing white socks up until the 80s,biggrin.gif Yes white socks was considered Squaddie and Paddy wear but this was in the mid 70s long after the skinheads had move on.smile.gif
Socks was a important part of young skinhead fashion, what was popular for a while, Red Fred Perry, Crombie, Red Pocket Hanky, and Red Socks, Orange was also popular a very 70s colour,smile.gif
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Original caption:Southend, Essex:

'These boots tell a sad story. The "Skinheads" who come mainly from London's East End, began a rampage in Southend recently, but didn't get very far. Police confiscated their braces, belts and shoe laces, rendering them immobile.

'Even so, there were 37 arrests and a number of fights. Police action was effective also at yielding an assortment of razors and iron bars. The "Skinheads" are so called because of their closely cropped hair. Every gang member wears teh braces, belts and boots.'

4/7/1970
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... and most scraps and punch-ups were (usually) down to someone dipping someone else's bird/sister/mother icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif anyway. satisfied.gif
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Original caption:Southend, Essex:

'These boots tell a sad story. The "Skinheads" who come mainly from London's East End, began a rampage in Southend recently, but didn't get very far. Police confiscated their braces, belts and shoe laces, rendering them immobile.

'Even so, there were 37 arrests and a number of fights. Police action was effective also at yielding an assortment of razors and iron bars. The "Skinheads" are so called because of their closely cropped hair. Every gang member wears teh braces, belts and boots.'

4/7/1970


 I was there in Southend when the Police confiscated the braces,belts and boot laces. I think the first time was Easter Bank holiday 1970.They also took away our steel combs which were an accessory we carried even though we generally had No.4 haircuts.The police were waiting at the two mainline stations for trains arriving from East London/Essex borders. We were hurded against the wall and the police carried out their work. I don't remember any Razors or iron bars. We were on a day out. It took us 5 minutes to find an M &S in the High road selling thick cord string which we cut up and tied the top eyelets of our boots. Police were inspecting our boots all day long. We were told to return to Southend Police station at the end of the day to collect our stuff. Not many bothered but we did just for the crack. A reporter from the now defunct Daily Sketch was at the Police HQ. and they took a team photo of our crew which I seem to remember appeared on the front page of the newspaper the next day. At the last minute I dodged out of view because I was keeping a low profile.One mate stayed in shot and the next day he got up early and removed the front page of his delivered newspaper before his dad saw the headlines. Trouble occurred at the Kursal with the fairground Geezers and along the seafront when a small group of greasers rode into town.The Dagenham Heathway mob also had a minor fracas between themselves.Most of the skinheads were from East/North London and supported West Ham or Spurs. An unofficial truce between rival gangs took place that day and the chanting was generally 'London United'.

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Love the photo of boots Ed.Here is a similar pic reposted from a few pages back.

And another.

I knew you was a wolf in sheeps clothing browniecj.Bustin' Up Brighton.

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