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Well, visited a few mtms in the Sydney Area and have narrowed it down to Oscar Hunt or Suit Shop for a versatile charcoal suit. George & King actually offered some great deals and to be honest from my experience I cannot tell the difference from them, and other seemingly more advanced shops.However GK does recruit publicly for stylists and with a short training program apparently 'anyone' can consult and measure their clients, and the one who consulted me is actually a college student doing the final year in fashion....so that's that. 

 

Charcoal full canvass three-piece pricings (Cheapest option available) All made in China.

 

OH - $1295 Three fittings

SS- $1495 presumably three fittings

GK-$999 two fittings

 

I've actually somewhat bluntly asked the Suit Shop tailor at the time what really sets them apart from other cheaper options, to which he replied that he has no direct experiences with shops such as Montagio or GK, however in the market today a lot of MTMs simply consider only the length of the cloth, rather than also factoring in the complete posture file of the person - which places them closer to the Bespoke experience. I've also addressed the same questions to GK, and got the confirmation that they do also take in to account of the posture, some sort of a 'molding' was mentioned however I had to hurry for a train so did not stay long.

 

Anyway just wanted to ask if any of you guys want to pitch in, I'm leaning towards Oscar Hunt at the moment, however on the flip side am also pretty curious about GK and how cheap MTMs like this actually work. 

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Well, visited a few mtms in the Sydney Area and have narrowed it down to Oscar Hunt or Suit Shop for a versatile charcoal suit. George & King actually offered some great deals and to be honest from my experience I cannot tell the difference from them, and other seemingly more advanced shops.However GK does recruit publicly for stylists and with a short training program apparently 'anyone' can consult and measure their clients, and the one who consulted me is actually a college student doing the final year in fashion....so that's that. 

 

Charcoal full canvass three-piece pricings (Cheapest option available) All made in China.

 

OH - $1295 Three fittings

SS- $1495 presumably three fittings

GK-$999 two fittings

 

I've actually somewhat bluntly asked the Suit Shop tailor at the time what really sets them apart from other cheaper options, to which he replied that he has no direct experiences with shops such as Montagio or GK, however in the market today a lot of MTMs simply consider only the length of the cloth, rather than also factoring in the complete posture file of the person - which places them closer to the Bespoke experience. I've also addressed the same questions to GK, and got the confirmation that they do also take in to account of the posture, some sort of a 'molding' was mentioned however I had to hurry for a train so did not stay long.

 

Anyway just wanted to ask if any of you guys want to pitch in, I'm leaning towards Oscar Hunt at the moment, however on the flip side am also pretty curious about GK and how cheap MTMs like this actually work. 

Choose between SS and OH based on which styling you like better. Those prices are quite high, largely because you are going full canvas, I do not think this is necessary in Aus climate and would go half canvas. Full canvas is largely overrated. This may go without saying but if you are a relatively standard body shape, IMO it's not worth going down the MTM route. If there is something that you think fits well off the rack  or will with some alterations (and meets standard styleforum quality/build criteria), it is much better to go with this rather than taking a risk on MTM. I would also contest that the build quality of many well regarded OTR brands that you can often pick up for a similar price (eg Corneliani, Canali, Caruso) is quite a bit better than SS (and indeed PJ in many cases). However, if you think that MTM is the only way you are going to get a fit you are happy with then go down this route, just be aware that there's a good chance you won't be happy with your first suit. Also, be aware that both SS and OH have a house(ish) style which may not appeal to you and there are limits to your ability to customise this.

 

As a side note, is it a marketing choice or somewhat revealing that all of SuitShop's instagram/tumblr/marketing shots are of the suits on mannequins rather than on their owners...

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Choose between SS and OH based on which styling you like better. Those prices are quite high, largely because you are going full canvas, I do not think this is necessary in Aus climate and would go half canvas. Full canvas is largely overrated. This may go without saying but if you are a relatively standard body shape, IMO it's not worth going down the MTM route. If there is something that you think fits well off the rack  or will with some alterations (and meets standard styleforum quality/build criteria), it is much better to go with this rather than taking a risk on MTM. I would also contest that the build quality of many well regarded OTR brands that you can often pick up for a similar price (eg Corneliani, Canali, Caruso) is quite a bit better than SS (and indeed PJ in many cases). However, if you think that MTM is the only way you are going to get a fit you are happy with then go down this route, just be aware that there's a good chance you won't be happy with your first suit. Also, be aware that both SS and OH have a house(ish) style which may not appeal to you and there are limits to your ability to customise this.

 

As a side note, is it a marketing choice or somewhat revealing that all of SuitShop's instagram/tumblr/marketing shots are of the suits on mannequins rather than on their owners...

Thanks for the input. I'm moving to the US later this year, which is why I'm trying to get a few things ready with AUD before converting a large sum of my money to USD. I've a pretty non-standard body so it's quite hard to find something OTR that fits me. What do you mean by a house(ish) style tho? Does it mean something that pretty much sticks to the general style of the brand rather than a fuller customisation?

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Choose between SS and OH based on which styling you like better. Those prices are quite high, largely because you are going full canvas, I do not think this is necessary in Aus climate and would go half canvas. Full canvas is largely overrated. This may go without saying but if you are a relatively standard body shape, IMO it's not worth going down the MTM route. If there is something that you think fits well off the rack  or will with some alterations (and meets standard styleforum quality/build criteria), it is much better to go with this rather than taking a risk on MTM. I would also contest that the build quality of many well regarded OTR brands that you can often pick up for a similar price (eg Corneliani, Canali, Caruso) is quite a bit better than SS (and indeed PJ in many cases). However, if you think that MTM is the only way you are going to get a fit you are happy with then go down this route, just be aware that there's a good chance you won't be happy with your first suit. Also, be aware that both SS and OH have a house(ish) style which may not appeal to you and there are limits to your ability to customise this.

As a side note, is it a marketing choice or somewhat revealing that all of SuitShop's instagram/tumblr/marketing shots are of the suits on mannequins rather than on their owners...

1. I always thought that canvas breathes whereas fused jackets don't;

2. Does anyone else agree with this analysis of M2M? I always thought M2M was the point of diminishing returns as opposed to OTR or bespoke.
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1. I always thought that canvas breathes whereas fused jackets don't;

2. Does anyone else agree with this analysis of M2M? I always thought M2M was the point of diminishing returns as opposed to OTR or bespoke.

One should always buy canvased suits, that much is true.

 

However choosing between full canvass and half depends on the durability you're looking for, the climate in which you live and your budget. 

 

I do agree with the description and think it's apt enough, however that's for standard folks, when your body's just weird OTR usually isn't an option

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Steve Kilbey: I listened to Triple J's Hottest 100 so you don't have to
The Church singer-songwriter offers his curmudgeonly thoughts on the top 10 as voted for by young Australians: ‘Listeners have gone a bit soft, I guess

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jan/27/steve-kilbey-i-listened-to-triple-js-hottest-100-so-you-dont-have-to?CMP=soc_567

Why this song is No 1 eludes me. Triple J listeners have gone a bit soft, I guess. It’s been easy-listening romantic pop almost all the way, except for Tame Impala’s weirdness and Kendrick’s rap (an almost inexplicably random inclusion).

And so popular music continues to, uh, baffle the pundits. Tell me what the youngsters who like a bit of bite listen to these days, ’cause it surely ain’t Triple J ... is it?

File under: mostly forgettable
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Here are some songs. Straya.
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Anyway just wanted to ask if any of you guys want to pitch in, I'm leaning towards Oscar Hunt at the moment, however on the flip side am also pretty curious about GK and how cheap MTMs like this actually work. 

Try Joe @ The Finery Company in Sydney for Bntailor made to measure. I have a number of bespoke items from Joe and I suspect his m2m is also very good
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Try Joe @ The Finery Company in Sydney for Bntailor made to measure. I have a number of bespoke items from Joe and I suspect his m2m is also very good

Thanks, will definitely check him out

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 Choose between SS and OH based on which styling you like better. Those prices are quite high, largely because you are going full canvas, I do not think this is necessary in Aus climate and would go half canvas. Full canvas is largely overrated. This may go without saying but if you are a relatively standard body shape, IMO it's not worth going down the MTM route. If there is something that you think fits well off the rack  or will with some alterations (and meets standard styleforum quality/build criteria), it is much better to go with this rather than taking a risk on MTM. I would also contest that the build quality of many well regarded OTR brands that you can often pick up for a similar price (eg Corneliani, Canali, Caruso) is quite a bit better than SS (and indeed PJ in many cases). However, if you think that MTM is the only way you are going to get a fit you are happy with then go down this route, just be aware that there's a good chance you won't be happy with your first suit. Also, be aware that both SS and OH have a house(ish) style which may not appeal to you and there are limits to your ability to customise this.
As a side note, is it a marketing choice or somewhat revealing that all of SuitShop's instagram/tumblr/marketing shots are of the suits on mannequins rather than on their owners...
Thanks for the input. I'm moving to the US later this year, which is why I'm trying to get a few things ready with AUD before converting a large sum of my money to USD. I've a pretty non-standard body so it's quite hard to find something OTR that fits me. What do you mean by a house(ish) style tho? Does it mean something that pretty much sticks to the general style of the brand rather than a fuller customisation?

Quite a few people here (including me) have got OH suits, jackets, trousers.
Check out spandexter, foxhound, Gerry Nelson
I've seen nearly all of them irl as well as on here and they are all good and I can't recall anyone being unhappy.
One of the big advantages of OH here in Melb is that they have their own proper/real/genuine tailor on site - on display in a fishbowl too - so that any final adjustments are done on the spot by a person who is immersed in the business/culture and can be there when you discuss any adjustments.
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 Choose between SS and OH based on which styling you like better. Those prices are quite high, largely because you are going full canvas, I do not think this is necessary in Aus climate and would go half canvas. Full canvas is largely overrated. This may go without saying but if you are a relatively standard body shape, IMO it's not worth going down the MTM route. If there is something that you think fits well off the rack  or will with some alterations (and meets standard styleforum quality/build criteria), it is much better to go with this rather than taking a risk on MTM. I would also contest that the build quality of many well regarded OTR brands that you can often pick up for a similar price (eg Corneliani, Canali, Caruso) is quite a bit better than SS (and indeed PJ in many cases). However, if you think that MTM is the only way you are going to get a fit you are happy with then go down this route, just be aware that there's a good chance you won't be happy with your first suit. Also, be aware that both SS and OH have a house(ish) style which may not appeal to you and there are limits to your ability to customise this.
As a side note, is it a marketing choice or somewhat revealing that all of SuitShop's instagram/tumblr/marketing shots are of the suits on mannequins rather than on their owners...
Thanks for the input. I'm moving to the US later this year, which is why I'm trying to get a few things ready with AUD before converting a large sum of my money to USD. I've a pretty non-standard body so it's quite hard to find something OTR that fits me. What do you mean by a house(ish) style tho? Does it mean something that pretty much sticks to the general style of the brand rather than a fuller customisation?


Quite a few people here (including me) have got OH suits, jackets, trousers.

But don't let that put you off.
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Sorry - I meant to add the disclaimer.
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JJJ is suffocating Australian (rock??) music
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Hey guys,

 

I spied these 2 pairs of meermin shoes on ebay the other day. Unfortunately I'm a 9UK, but I thought someone else might like the opportunity to try purchase them.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321985439675?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321985430725?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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For what it's worth, I've purchased several pieces from SuitShop and have always been very happy with the result.

 

Is indicative pricing for M2M at The Finery Company available anywhere, or is best taken up with Joe directly? 

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