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Mr Porter - ordered 25 June pm, delivered 28 June pm. Boom.



TehBunny said:

Churches comment is good; heard they used to be great before Prada, when I say great I mean GREAT!

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To be honest, I have Church's pre and post Prad and they are all excellent. I know that recently they have changed somethings around (like bookbinder leather being an option and some new lines) but if you choose wisely what you want they still make great shoes.

nabilmust said:

Mr Porter - ordered 25 June pm, delivered 28 June pm. Boom.

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This is the kind of turnaround I am hoping for too. Hoping my order will arrive early next week.

In contrast, I ordered some suit hangers from Sydney about 3 weeks ago, paid over $20 in shipping and am still chasing them up for it.

My mate the Shooman reckons that Churches are still ok and theres no evidence in the construction of the post Prada shoes if comparing apples with pommes.
However if you go into McClouds almost all the Church's are split/binder/corrected grain (not all exactly the same). Many old school Churches buyers I know prefer the look of corrected grain.

Despite some mythology corrected grain isn't necessarily inferior to calf or top leather for a shoe. Its a different look and care though.

I appreciate the help guys, will drop in to MJB over the weekend.



fxh said:

My mate the Shooman reckons that Churches are still ok and theres no evidence in the construction of the post Prada shoes if comparing apples with pommes.
However if you go into McClouds almost all the Church's are split/binder/corrected grain (not all exactly the same). Many old school Churches buyers I know prefer the look of corrected grain.

Despite some mythology corrected grain isn't necessarily inferior to calf or top leather for a shoe. Its a different look and care though.

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Churchs is the best of the binder but it still has the same problems with indelible unmoveable scuffs. But then they tell me they fly out the window with lazy types that don't polish their shoes.



fxh said:

My mate the Shooman reckons that Churches are still ok and theres no evidence in the construction of the post Prada shoes if comparing apples with pommes.
However if you go into McClouds almost all the Church's are split/binder/corrected grain (not all exactly the same). Many old school Churches buyers I know prefer the look of corrected grain.

Despite some mythology corrected grain isn't necessarily inferior to calf or top leather for a shoe. Its a different look and care though.

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Church's have always been expensive, and you have always paid for "the brand". Just as now you pay more for James Bond's shoes of choice, Church's have commanded a premium for ages, not entirely undeserved given their quality, but not entirely unrelated to their popularity amongst the well to do. It's one of the major reasons Prada bought them in the first place. It's also perhaps why they aren't considered good value. Short step from there to "poor quality"... for the price maybe. But objectively they are still top shoes I reckon.

Like I said earlier I haven't seen any drop in quality since Prada took over, at least not in the custom grade line. And agree 100% about binder leather; it has some advantages and isn't always inferior. Better water resistance than calf and much easier to look after, for example.

I have to say I don't like the shiny look of binder etc at all - but a few of my mates who always buy Churches at McClouds love them - and I must say - on them - they look ok (ish) .

Another example of how in clothing if you are true to yourself and wear what is you and suits you it will (nearly) always look ok.

How are McClouds' prices like? Their website doesn't say much... I'm imagining close to RRP.

Yowzer said:

How are McClouds' prices like? Their website doesn't say much... I'm imagining close to RRP.

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Consider a reasonable price for a pair of shoes, in your mind.

Then double it.

That's the McCloud's promise to you!

...as I feared.... some things never change.



iSurg said:

Man of Steel.
So. Good.

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just saw it completely over the top. full of pop culture references, had to laugh at the JC illusions as we all know Superman is a son of Abraham

Geoffrey Firmin said:

just saw it completely over the top. full of pop culture references, had to laugh at the JC illusions as we all know Superman is a son of Abraham

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You mean he's Jewperman?

nabilmust said:

Mr Porter - ordered 25 June pm, delivered 28 June pm. Boom.

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Boo -- ordered 24th June, and I'm still waiting on it. Don't mind me though, I'm a product of brats who expect too much from express service.

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The former: clothes, watches and shoes.

The latter: women.

Quick heads-up on Double Monk (Smith St shoe retailer):

Went in there tonight to purchase a pair of C&J scotch-grain Exmoors I've been losing sleep over. I took the canny step of bringing in four pairs of well-liked shoes currently lacking trees.

Double Monk have some great budget trees, I think they are cedar but not sure. Anyway they are spring-loaded and have split toes which expand on insertion. Very good value for money at $49 per pair. I'm all treed up now and it didn't cost me as much as I expected. Also picked up some Saphir Renovateur.

Double Monk are currently my favourite shoe store.