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As TheBrownMan says - "Gilet - the vest a man can get ..."

 

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For those who are civilised and have refined tastes to own and wear a pink shirt WH Taylor has a deal this month worth checking outhttp://www.whtshirtmakers.com/ProductDetails.aspx/Shirts/Classic_Collar_Shirts/Pattern_Shirts/Classic_Collar_Shirts_Pattern_Shirts_Mens_Pink_Pinstripe_Classic_Collar_Shirt_October_Shirt_Offer_of_the_Month/630/

One thing the even though I am classic fit in most brands the slim fit is sufficient
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Originally Posted by iSurg View Post

Quick question for Romp and PoP as I remember some comments earlier in the year about Firenze (where I am now). Where to get shoes more in my range - I remember Mannina and a secret shop of PoP's which was not disclosed. Should I PM you? Otherwise, I have passed by Hidetaka after hours and saw HF himself looking very focused on the computer. The shoes are just too beautiful to be worn. Frasi and Liverano were closed today. I still have 4 days to try and get there...
Lucky bugger! No secret shop, I truly forgot the name, and it rubbed off of the inside of the pair of shoes I bought there. True story is true... I recall it was near the Duomo though.

Also as a general rule make sure you ask for and take advantage of any tax back offers where you can - once you do the paperwork you can save about 10% or so, which on a €300 pair of shoes here, a jacket there, adds up. IMO it's worth it, especially if you can post the paperwork back rather than stand in line at the airport.

Some of you may know that, very sadly, Stefano Bemer passed away last year. I believe his workshop in Florence is still operating under the auspices of his brother. In any case he is more in the Hidetaka price range, but might be interesting for you to drop in if you are wandering around the vicinity iSurg.

Roberto Ugolini's workshop is just across the river on the south side, about 5 minutes' walk from the ponte vecchio, and IMO he shares the same Italian genius for form (and the same amazing leather supplier) as Bemer:

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He is also a fair bit cheaper than Bemer and Hidetaki; MTM shoes were sub-$1,000 last time I checked (though this may have changed since the forex rate has fallen). He is a very good option for you if you are willing to stretch your budget a bit. Again, worth a stroll by just to see the beautiful shoes.

If you would like a couple of suggestions on other things to do and see in Florence, PM me.
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BTW I think Gerrys suiting style is fkn awesome wink.gif  
His pic on the previous page for example...To the trained eye you can tell each item is quality, but he dresses understated.
Even the untrained eye would notice it not because he's dandied up, but because 'something is just right' about it. And many would consider it bland. 


It's his photography skills. He looks like crap IRL smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

Thanks guys, on both sides of the equation. Truth be told after years of wearing cutaway collars I'm really enjoying wearing button downs with suits (and jackets). I have a job where I don't need to worry about CBD rules or any of that, though despite that my style is still fairly conservative. I have stringent rules of my own for wearing pink, which generally involve always wearing a plain or near plain tie and more often that not navy or grey base, be they suits or not. I never, ever wear pink with other pastels or with anything lighter than a mid/dark grey (beige, light grey etc etc.)
Funny, I take something of the opposite approach. I prefer to wear pink shirts with other pastels - light-mid grey, brown, light blues mostly. And often with loud floral or polka dot, or striped ties... I acknowledge pink shirts can look very well with navy or charcoal suits as well, but can be a bit like a white shirt under a dark suit (hard dressing). I guess my point is you can look good adopting either approach.

BTW I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with BDs (or pink shirts) and suits, my original comment was more about fit than colour or style. I just thought that particular collar on that particular shirt was a bit too high for you to wear with a tie under that suit. The collar looks a little like it wants to escape the clutches of your lapels rather than cosy up to them. That's not meant as a criticism; you don't realise these things until you try them, but if it were me I would relegate that shirt to open-necked days.

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This on the other hand seems to sit much better with the jacket from what I can tell (the photo is a bit washed out on my screen). Perhaps it's an optical illusion due to the same colour tones in your shirt and jacket in this case. Anyway, I think it works well.
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

I never, ever wear pink with light grey

 

I would have thought a pink shirt and light grey suit would look excellent?

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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

Funny, I take something of the opposite approach. I prefer to wear pink shirts with other pastels - light-mid grey, brown, light blues mostly. And often with loud floral or polka dot, or striped ties... I acknowledge pink shirts can look very well with navy or charcoal suits as well, but can be a bit like a white shirt under a dark suit (hard dressing). I guess my point is you can look good adopting either approach.

BTW I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with BDs (or pink shirts) and suits, my original comment was more about fit than colour or style. I just thought that particular collar on that particular shirt was a bit too high for you to wear with a tie under that suit. The collar looks a little like it wants to escape the clutches of your lapels rather than cosy up to them. That's not meant as a criticism; you don't realise these things until you try them, but if it were me I would relegate that shirt to open-necked days.

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This on the other hand seems to sit much better with the jacket from what I can tell (the photo is a bit washed out on my screen). Perhaps it's an optical illusion due to the same colour tones in your shirt and jacket in this case. Anyway, I think it works well.

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I would have thought a pink shirt and light grey suit would look excellent?

I'll tell you why I have my rules, and these are just my opinion and nothing to be taken as a hard and fast "rule". What you guys describe above to comes off as too feminine to me, no offense. I like dark colours because they balance out pink well. I guess I always try, even when wearing pink to be both well dressed and masculine, and the latter is something a lot of people on SF struggle with when trying to dress better, especially at the start. I do agree that brown looks great with pink, but I just don't own a brown suit so didn't include it.

PoP the shirt I'm wearing today is the same collar as the one from yesterday, so I don't know if theres an optical illusion happening there or maybe this coat has a higher collar than the suit from yesterday.
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Hey guys

 

New member here. Recently bought my first suit. What does everybody think?

 

In hindsight, I would have preferred a different shirt, and possibly a grenadine tie.

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I'll tell you why I have my rules, and these are just my opinion and nothing to be taken as a hard and fast "rule". What you guys describe above to comes off as too feminine to me, no offense. I like dark colours because they balance out pink well. I guess I always try, even when wearing pink to be both well dressed and masculine, and the latter is something a lot of people on SF struggle with when trying to dress better, especially at the start. I do agree that brown looks great with pink, but I just don't own a brown suit so didn't include it.

None taken, though I'm not sure you can obviate the "femininity" of a pink shirt by pairing it with darker colours. The whole pink = feminine thing is completely a modern social construct of course (fxh posted a very good article about this some time ago) anyway. But even if you accept that the perception of pink as a feminine colour is widespread and must be taken into account, pairing it with a dark suit or tie produces a contrast that actually highlights that you are, in fact, wearing a pink shirt. I think this is especially the case in our usually harsh Australian light (more to come on this, I have found an interesting article that may inform some colour theories of dressing for our climes).

To my eye, pink just looks better with mid range or lighter colours: mid navy (eg your herringbone jacket), lighter grey etc. It can also take on the role of a background more effectively in this context, as it blends better with the lighter tones of the rest of one's outfit, rather than contrast with the darker, more staid palette of dark navy, charcoal or black.
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post



I'll tell you why I have my rules, and these are just my opinion and nothing to be taken as a hard and fast "rule". What you guys describe above to comes off as too feminine to me, no offense. I like dark colours because they balance out pink well. I guess I always try, even when wearing pink to be both well dressed and masculine, and the latter is something a lot of people on SF struggle with when trying to dress better, especially at the start. I do agree that brown looks great with pink, but I just don't own a brown suit so didn't include it.

PoP the shirt I'm wearing today is the same collar as the one from yesterday, so I don't know if theres an optical illusion happening there or maybe this coat has a higher collar than the suit from yesterday.

 

I think so.

 

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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post
 

 

I would have thought a pink shirt and light grey suit would look excellent?

 

Perhaps with a darker grey, or a charcoal. Light grey with pink might look too washed out.

 

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Foxhound, if I were you Id get a nice suit, but put some serious thought into it.

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It wasn't too long ago that I got my first suit, and had versatility in mind.

I ended up with a midnight blue herringbone fabric, and a timeless/ classic cut and style (ie proper length so that it covers your arse, roped shoulders minimal padding, medium width lapel, single break pants etc etc). This seriously looks awesome in almost any setting: wedding, funeral, work, dates, races, theatre, daytime/ nighttime. 

But I have the mindset that;

- fabric and fit are most important (you could have 2 blokes wearing the same nicely fitting suit and style, but the great material on one means it doesn't look so 'card-boardy and bland')

- with a classic style, you can just chop and change as you please: the suit is a blank canvas

- Ive also got this thing now about soft shoulders. In the above suit they would not work versatility wise: I think the soft shoulders make jackets far more casual.

 

BTW I think Gerrys suiting style is fkn awesome ;) 

His pic on the previous page for example...To the trained eye you can tell each item is quality, but he dresses understated.

Even the untrained eye would notice it not because he's dandied up, but because 'something is just right' about it. And many would consider it bland. 

 

...Just wanted to add a big shout out to wool and leather :inlove:

 

 

Excellent points, Burnso. And not just about GN's suiting :)

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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

What you guys describe comes off as too feminine. I always try, when wearing pink to be masculine, something a lot of people on SF struggle with.

 

Yes, I kind of agree. It is a 'youthful' look. It's like men's fragrances. People often associate the sweeter notes with femininity. Yet, on the right person the smell can be excellent, as with a pink shirt and light grey suit.

 

So for those people that don't have overly masculine features, or are quite youthful in their aesthetic, pink and grey and sweeter colognes can really work well. But if you're quite masculine in presence (beard, broad shouldered etc.) then dressing with baby pink can be too much of a contrast. 

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^I'd perhaps wear something like Ari's to the races. No lighter though.

I'd put myself in your latter category, but I kind of like high contrast between shirts and suits. I don't really mind low contrast either, if it looks good then I'm on board with it. I do gravitate towards more masculine fragrances too, very woody/leathery types. It wasn't always that way though, and wore a lot of lighter stuff in my 20's. I still do a bit in summer on the weekends. Paul Smith (the green bottle) and Clinique Happy are good summer favourites of mine, but not for work.
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Originally Posted by Erwino View Post
 

 

Hey guys

 

New member here. Recently bought my first suit. What does everybody think?

 

In hindsight, I would have preferred a different shirt, and possibly a grenadine tie.

 

That is excellent, but lose the windsor knot. 

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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

None taken, though I'm not sure you can obviate the "femininity" of a pink shirt by pairing it with darker colours. The whole pink = feminine thing is completely a modern social construct of course (fxh posted a very good article about this some time ago) anyway. But even if you accept that the perception of pink as a feminine colour is widespread and must be taken into account, pairing it with a dark suit or tie produces a contrast that actually highlights that you are, in fact, wearing a pink shirt. I think this is especially the case in our usually harsh Australian light (more to come on this, I have found an interesting article that may inform some colour theories of dressing for our climes).

To my eye, pink just looks better with mid range or lighter colours: mid navy (eg your herringbone jacket), lighter grey etc. It can also take on the role of a background more effectively in this context, as it blends better with the lighter tones of the rest of one's outfit, rather than contrast with the darker, more staid palette of dark navy, charcoal or black.

I honestly thought that the notion of wearing pink and it being perceived as being effeminate or depicting femininity was so last decade to be honest. Culturally I would have thought the whole Bundaberg Rum bear ' I like a man who wear's pink' promotion, and seeing as its aimed at upper middle bogans would have negated that whole cultural concept of pink being effeminate for the bear is a masculine signifier along with rum being masculine and the catch phrase was in wide circulation that it had gone a long way to de-effeminate social perception of pink clothing on men.

I wear pink shirts at least once a week to work with a navy suit and have a number of pink polos in various shades for casual wear in summer.

Your right about the Australian light PoP and how it does affect colour perception and would you care to share the article about colour and dressing for our climes sounds fascinating.
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