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Romp said:

+1 for button downs

I tend to go with a lighter fabric for summer ... oxford sometimes a tad thick depending on where its from

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Rob I'd love to see O&J release a few more button downs. In particular a blue OCBD.

It's also pretty hard to get hold of staple linen shirts, particularly button down ones with a slim fit. This is very strange in a country where wearing linen during summer makes so much sense.

Since we're not yet graced with an MJ Bale outlet in Melbourne, can anyone who has seen both comment on how their SU2 tapered cut compares to Herringbone's Osaka? From the look and measurements they appear similar, are they?



DartagnanRed said:

Rob I'd love to see O&J release a few more button downs. In particular a blue OCBD.

It's also pretty hard to get hold of staple linen shirts, particularly button down ones with a slim fit. This is very strange in a country where wearing linen during summer makes so much sense.

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Cottonwork.com brah.



lennier said:

Since we're not yet graced with an MJ Bale outlet in Melbourne, can anyone who has seen both comment on how their SU2 tapered cut compares to Herringbone's Osaka? From the look and measurements they appear similar, are they?

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Very, very similar. Quarters are a little more closed is all I sould discern.

I think Selvaggio has some of their suits; maybe he can comment.

DartagnanRed said:

Rob I'd love to see O&J release a few more button downs. In particular a blue OCBD.

It's also pretty hard to get hold of staple linen shirts, particularly button down ones with a slim fit. This is very strange in a country where wearing linen during summer makes so much sense.

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thanks - some new shirts are being made this month - hope can share them sooner rather than later

yeah i had to ditch the linen idea, would of ended up being >$250 a shirt in our fabric choices.. dont think I would have sold many at those prices.

Romp said:

thanks - some new shirts are being made this month - hope can share them sooner rather than later

yeah i had to ditch the linen idea, would of ended up being >$250 a shirt in our fabric choices.. dont think I would have sold many at those prices.

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Wow really? What pushed it to that sort of money?

damnnn mann waiting on those shirts have got me going all scratchy and stuff duuuude. patience is killing me!



DartagnanRed said:

Wow really? What pushed it to that sort of money? 

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Decent linen is $$$$.

Even just using Acorn you pay ~90$ a shirt more for fabric.

Plestor said:

Decent linen is $$$$.
Even just using Acorn you pay ~90$ a shirt more for fabric.

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spot on

the guys at our factory only insist on the good stuff which is good as it means we have a top notch product (Sid Mashburn/Wharf/J Press/ ROTMshop and us are all manufactured at same factory) J

Just means I can only really look at a third of the swatch book as the other 2/3rds would be up there with Finamore pricing



fxh said:

But given that you accept its rooted try a few things.
Lay it on a towel and sprinkle plain talcum powder on the stain - leave 24 hours.
Brush powder off.
Repeat for 3 days.
Sometimes works by absorbing grease.

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Never come across that one before but salt is exceptionally good at drawing out red wine from virtually any fabric.

Liberally apply salt and leave O/N if possible and then wash with sard soap.

Geoffrey Firmin said:

Never come across that one before but salt is exceptionally good at drawing out red wine from virtually any fabric.
Liberally apply salt and leave O/N if possible and then wash with sard soap.

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the talc powder didnt help a pair of my old tods... dropped BBQ stuff on them and the grease never came out.. dry cleaner just turned them a gross dark colour



Journeyman said:

An interesting article, fxh, but I was somewhat bemused by this comment:
I wasn't aware that Australians all have fat, wide feet. Given that a majority of us are still originally of European/British stock, wouldn't it make sense for us to have feet like our forebears? Also, what about the reasonable proportion of Australians who have Asian ancestry? At the risk of stereotyping/generalising, most Asians tend to have slim feet.

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I was always under the impression that Anglos (English/Aussie) have wide feet, Americans have narrow feet, and the Euros are somewhere in the middle (and prefer a sleeker looking last).

Hence why it is nigh on impossible to find a narrow width shoe in any of the English brands that are popular round these parts.



lachyzee said:

I was always under the impression that Anglos (English/Aussie) have wide feet, Americans have narrow feet, and the Euros are somewhere in the middle (and prefer a sleeker looking last).
Hence why it is nigh on impossible to find a narrow width shoe in any of the English brands that are popular round these parts.

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I think it general thats the accepted wisdom and more importantly how the lasts and therefore shoes are made. Strangely though, to generalise, the Italians make the sleekest shoes and Americans the clompiest widest looking.

It doesn't make any sense to me in terms of genetics though.

I have no Anglo in me. I have irish, jewish and austrian. No anglo.

And I don't see the Australian genetic makeup all that radically different to USA.

Mind you when it comes to clothing etc there isn't much objectivity around.

Reporting back from the real world. On clothes.

Having a quick squiz in the mirror on the way out I decided to change my tie - to be more bland.
Its navy with light blue and pink square dots. Yes the collar doesn't show tie space but its there - only been washed once - expecting a bit of shrink.

A quick hello to Christian on my way past. Then up to the 50th floor - nice cold beer then nibbles, Shiraz.

The Premier sent apologies. Cabinet Minister in plain blue suit, neither here nor there, not fitted well not fitted atrociously, white shirt with short straight collar, red tie - plain. Junior Ministers all female I didn't note their dress.

Just to give you a flavour - I counted 5 Professors /Deans I knew of and 6 OM/AMs I knew of - there were likely more. Plus two ex Federal Ministers and a couple of other highish profile persons.

About 38 males, 28 females. 7 males without tie. 3 with dark suit no tie. 3 with nondescript no colour greyish sport coat and almost matching trousers in no tie. One in Gun check sportcoat, light grey trousers, checked shirt, stripped tie, jacket too long by 3". Mostly dark suits, dark ties and many of those stupid shiney pastel ties. Mostly nothing much good. I checked shoes out - some not too bad - one bloke I know well always wears Churches - but beside him and me I didn't see another good shoe. One bloke - and I'm not exaggerating here - had on an ok suit, nice enough if badly fitted checked white shirt, acceptable tie and huge feckin Caterpillar shoes.
Black but with soles about 2" high and treaded! Like this

As the speeches got going I sensed a presence beside me and someone whispered in my ear "I suspect I'm a little overdressed for this - I'm off to something else" - I turned it was an old colleague. Shawl collar dinner suit, black studs down pleated shirt, soft down pointing collar, and - as I looked down , bloody PATENT LEATHER SHINY PUMPS!. I said "I certainly think so mate but I can hardly fault you. But I'll try" - I looked then pounced - yes one thing wrong. He looked and wondered then asked - what - I said "Your bow tie is pre-tied" He said "Wrong I did it myself" and it was near perfect - too much so.

And there you go - an evening at the Top End of Town in Melbourne.

Ask me any questions.

fxh said:

Reporting back from the real world. On clothes.
Having a quick squiz in the mirror on the way out I decided to change my tie - to be more bland.

Its navy with light blue and pink square dots. Yes the collar doesn't show tie space but its there - only been washed once - expecting a bit of shrink.
A quick hello to Christian on my way past. Then up to the 50th floor - nice cold beer then nibbles, Shiraz.
The Premier sent apologies. Cabinet Minister in plain blue suit, neither here nor there, not fitted well not fitted atrociously, white shirt with short straight collar, red tie - plain. Junior Ministers all female I didn't note their dress.
Just to give you a flavour - I counted 5 Professors /Deans I knew of and 6 OM/AMs I knew of - there were likely more. Plus two ex Federal Ministers and a couple of other highish profile persons.
About 38 males, 28 females. 7 males without tie. 3 with dark suit no tie. 3 with nondescript no colour greyish sport coat and almost matching trousers in no tie. One in Gun check sportcoat, light grey trousers, checked shirt, stripped tie, jacket too long by 3". Mostly dark suits, dark ties and many of those stupid shiney pastel ties. Mostly nothing much good. I checked shoes out - some not too bad - one bloke I know well always wears Churches - but beside him and me I didn't see another good shoe. One bloke - and I'm not exaggerating here - had on an ok suit, nice enough if badly fitted checked white shirt, acceptable tie and huge feckin Caterpillar shoes.
Black but with soles about 2" high and treaded! Like this

As the speeches got going I sensed a presence beside me and someone whispered in my ear "I suspect I'm a little overdressed for this - I'm off to something else" - I turned it was an old colleague. Shawl collar dinner suit, black studs down pleated shirt, soft down pointing collar, and - as I looked down , bloody PATENT LEATHER SHINY PUMPS!. I said "I certainly think so mate but I can hardly fault you. But I'll try" - I looked then pounced - yes one thing wrong. He looked and wondered then asked - what - I said "Your bow tie is pre-tied" He said "Wrong I did it myself" and it was near perfect - too much so.
And there you go - an evening at the Top End of Town in Melbourne.
Ask me any questions.

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Should of taken a photo .. Its almost disturbingly creepy that you memorised everyones clothes haha