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Originally Posted by acinod View Post

How much are RMW Comfort Craftsman these days? I assume being in Australia helps bring the price down but the last time I went to the Melbourne Central store it was over $400 uhoh.gif

 

Yeah they're $425 now from retail shops (and I think you can order from RMW online now), but some places like nungar.com.au have them substantially cheaper (that's not a recommendation - I haven't used them, just saying FWIW).

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Does anyone here have a significant other or friend/coworker, etc. that's bought from the Carmina women's range.

My girlfriend likes the look of their chelsea boots, but is wondering about how their different lasts fit.

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY WHERE SHE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SHOE LASTS.
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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

Does anyone here have a significant other or friend/coworker, etc. that's bought from the Carmina women's range.

My girlfriend likes the look of their chelsea boots, but is wondering about how their different lasts fit.

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY WHERE SHE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SHOE LASTS.


#foreveralone

post #36559 of 55241
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post

The benefits of s classical education.

Yes, it's from a classic Radiohead song:

"When I am king you will be first against the wall
With your opinion which is of no consequence at all."
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Any recommendations for someone who has no decent shoes and wants to start building an appreciation/collection? For instance, I still struggle to distinguish between some Oxfords/Balmorals and Derbies.

I have been reading this thread from the beginning but since I don't have any respectable shoes, I won't be confident with online purchases yet (estimating that I'm a 44 f). It seems trying on Loake's (1880?) at DJ's is the best place to start.

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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

Does anyone here have a significant other or friend/coworker, etc. that's bought from the Carmina women's range.

My girlfriend likes the look of their chelsea boots, but is wondering about how their different lasts fit.

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY WHERE SHE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SHOE LASTS.

 

Donno bro, but once your girlfriend knows, I wouldn't mind picking one up for the fiancee. Meermin had some nice ladies shoes too. Kinda jelly, actually. 

post #36562 of 55241
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Originally Posted by Halifax View Post

Any recommendations for someone who has no decent shoes and wants to start building an appreciation/collection? For instance, I still struggle to distinguish between some Oxfords/Balmorals and Derbies.


I have been reading this thread from the beginning but since I don't have any respectable shoes, I won't be confident with online purchases yet (estimating that I'm a 44 f). It seems trying on Loake's (1880?) at DJ's is the best place to start.

there are no 1880s at DJ, at least in the sydney stores.
post #36563 of 55241
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Originally Posted by Halifax View Post

Any recommendations for someone who has no decent shoes and wants to start building an appreciation/collection? For instance, I still struggle to distinguish between some Oxfords/Balmorals and Derbies.


I have been reading this thread from the beginning but since I don't have any respectable shoes, I won't be confident with online purchases yet (estimating that I'm a 44 f). It seems trying on Loake's (1880?) at DJ's is the best place to start.

Not sure of your budget or where you are located but I would say for me (and probably others), if I was to start a decent shoe wardrobe again I would buy less, buy better.

Therefore if you are lucky enough to be in Melbourne you could try C&J's at Double Monk, American Tailors or Herringbone. Henry Bucks here and in other major cities could also be an option.

I started out with Loakes (when I was 18) but was still living in Scotland at the time so the choice and price was better. Loakes from DJs could be good but the difference between them and Carmina, Churches and C&J's is worth it if you are investing in a proper shoe collection. Also, I find sometimes the risk of online is worth it (both price and choice wise) but can understand your reluctance.

Best bet, budget and location depending, would be a simple black pair of C&J's from a bricks and mortar place here and use that as your basis for sizing enquires online.

In terms of learning your derbies from your oxfords etc, Gentleman by Bernhard Roetzel is an enjoyable and informative read on this topic and other style related matters.

Oh and thebrownman does that mean your significant other (thebrownwoman? thebrownmanswoman?) will be joining Style Forum?
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I thought 'first against the wall' was from Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy......

post #36565 of 55241
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Originally Posted by Pink Socks View Post

Not sure of your budget ...


Well, if I had to give a number it would be under 400 - I'd be worried that I wouldn't provide the necessary care and attention if I was to push that number.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Pink Socks View Post

Therefore if you are lucky enough to be in Melbourne...

 

Unfortunately, I'm in sunny Brisbane

 

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Originally Posted by Pink Socks View Post


In terms of learning your derbies from your oxfords etc, Gentleman by Bernhard Roetzel is an enjoyable and informative read on this topic and other style related matters.

Oh and thebrownman does that mean your significant other (thebrownwoman? thebrownmanswoman?) will be joining Style Forum?

 

Investing in a book, hmm...


Am I right in understanding that oxfords have the eyelets on the vamp where as derbies have extra pieces stitched to the quarters?

post #36566 of 55241
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Originally Posted by Halifax View Post

Any recommendations for someone who has no decent shoes and wants to start building an appreciation/collection? For instance, I still struggle to distinguish between some Oxfords/Balmorals and Derbies.

I have been reading this thread from the beginning but since I don't have any respectable shoes, I won't be confident with online purchases yet (estimating that I'm a 44 f). It seems trying on Loake's (1880?) at DJ's is the best place to start.

Someone from Brissy might chime in with local options.

Work out when you'll wear the shoe, that'll determine the style and colour. For business/ formal Id start on a black cap toe oxford.

I don't mind a mid-dark brown plain toe derby (among others) with jeans, but the purists won't like.

 

The 1880 range is the perfect starter (my first was the loake Aldwych) and I wouldnt go for anything less. They are a bargain and a beautifully made entry level shoe.

 

I went into DJs. They won't have 1880s but the lower quality Design range. The size will be the same. Make sure you try on a size smaller and bigger than the size you think fits. You want the shoe snug (often with not much wiggle room), but you don't want your toes all squashed together for example, or a tight heel. Take in thin/ business cotton socks with you.

I have previously settled for a half size too big (with a view for insoles if req.), but not anymore. You want the shoe to mold to your foot. The new shoe will stretch slightly width wise, and also when they warm up and wear in they soften.

I've found with the correct loake size, 4 out of 5 times that'll be correct for most shoes.

I also think buying your first shoe locally isn't a bad idea, as the extra $$ can be worth it for a perfect fit and colour. Buying a shade of brown for example online, is a gamble unless you've seen real life pics.

All just my opinion, should be a good start.

post #36567 of 55241
Here is a nice article with photos, which explains the difference between oxford and derby, by Loake.

http://www.loake.co.uk/blog/?p=559

An Oxford is a lace-up shoe where the eyelet facings are stitched underneath the vamp (front section of the shoe). This style of shoe is sometimes called a closed front. A Derby (also often referred to as a Gibson) is a lace-up shoe where the eyelet facings are stitched on top of the vamp (front section of the shoe). This style of shoe is sometimes called an open front.
post #36568 of 55241
if you not near a store, I recommend buying a pair of Allen Edmonds, its printable shoe size guide is the best I have used, very accurate for me, and you can get a pair for around 300 AUD.

and for future UK shoes, it's normally just half a size down.
post #36569 of 55241
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Originally Posted by Halifax View Post

SFer's brace yourselves for a series of convoluted questions...


As I'll be traveling to Bangkok at the end of the year, I'm planning to test out several tailors by getting sample dress shirts made. I have a fair picture of construction in mind (except regarding darts - appropriate on a dinner shirt?) but I've never really dealt with raw fabrics before. Looking at the Egyptian cotton fabrics, is it sufficient to only consider the yarn count, thread count and ply (warp x weft)?

On the thread count, what is the standard approach of specification? Threads per inch squared plus the weave type or thread per inch in warp and in weft (hence specifying the weave)?


Has anyone found Giza cotton by the length on Sampeng lane or should I just let the tailor charge me for the fabric? What about cotton silk blends?


If the information is summed up neatly with a simple link, please feel free to contribute to my edification.


PS How low does the Giza yarn count get to (100's)?

I bought a lot of top fabrics in Sampeng when in the airlines and had them made up. Cheaper, better and more varied styles of fabric. I had a 48 hour manufacture linen suit made up with Sampeng linen for a wedding I flew to in Italy, wore it for 10 years and eventually gave it still intact to Vinnies.
post #36570 of 55241
Halifax,

Welcome to the bastard world of online ordering.

Essentially you want
- a black cap toed oxford
- a dark brown brogue

The black oxford will get you through your most formal occasions (church, weddings, funerals, job interviews etc) whilst the brown brogue is still formal enough for work but can be worn on dates or to weekend lunches.

In terms of work, ideally you'll be rotating them daily so that the leather has an opportunity to dry out.

Loakes 1880s are a fantastic place to start, there are a handful of places in the city you can try them on but you'll end up ordering them online due to the Australia tax. C&Js are a nicer shoe and more expensive, but have the advantage of a few bricks and mortar stores in sydney and Melbourne. Anything beyond these and you're playing a game of diminishing returns.

In terms of looking after them, you want:
- a leather conditioner - saphir renovateur
- a shoe cream the same colour as the shoe - saphir creme
- a pair of shoe trees
For all of these I'd recommend ordering from double monk in Melbourne who have fantastic prices.

Once you have these, I'd recommend looking at a boot - either an chelsea from RMWs or a pair of chukkas, which can take you from the pub to any formal occasion.

At this point I'd warn you to stop. Anything beyond this and you've well and truly gone beyond the point of diminishing returns and into the world of the SFer which involves long hours of depression flicking through eBay, buying shoes online and bitching about lasts and 'shoe hierarchy'.
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