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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post


You get points for using the word omnibus.

I see where you are coming from, you like a clean, simple aesthetic done well. For me, that kind of aesthetic is more like anesthetic: fun in small doses. TEHO.

 

 

Yes, I tend to agree with this view.

post #35432 of 54038
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Originally Posted by FredAstaire1899 View Post

I agree with this, seeing as it's almost half the cost of a new pair.  Also, I think those shoes could do with a highly pigmented cream polish, but it might just be the lighting.  But the job on the soles does look excellent of course - you'd never get that from even the best cobbler's in Australia.  I wonder how even a good local cobbler would go stitching the sole back on around the waist, as the welt is very close to the upper.


Out of interest, how heavily did you wear them before sending them for the re-sole?

For a long time these were my only pair of brown shoes, so I wore them at least twice a week over a period of years. They didn't get adequate care, as you can see.

When considering the cost, you need to bear in mind that this $250 includes $70 to ship the shoes to the UK. (DM absorbed the cost of bringing them back in one of their shipments). I needed to spend around $100 to render them even wearable again. I took them to my regular cobbler and he said that the cork had started to wear, and he couldn't do anything to fix that. He basically said they were shot.

So the calculus was: 1/ chuck the shoes completely and fork out a minimum of $600 for replacements, 2/ spend $100 on a crap job that might not help at all, or 3/ spend $250 on refurbishing and see how it works out. I decided to give refurbishing a try, to see what it's like.

What do you mean by a highly-pigmented polish?. I have a few different shades of brown in Saphir creams and polishes.
post #35433 of 54038
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

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Originally Posted by FredAstaire1899 View Post

I agree with this, seeing as it's almost half the cost of a new pair.  Also, I think those shoes could do with a highly pigmented cream polish, but it might just be the lighting.  But the job on the soles does look excellent of course - you'd never get that from even the best cobbler's in Australia.  I wonder how even a good local cobbler would go stitching the sole back on around the waist, as the welt is very close to the upper.


Out of interest, how heavily did you wear them before sending them for the re-sole?

For a long time these were my only pair of brown shoes, so I wore them at least twice a week over a period of years. They didn't get adequate care, as you can see.

When considering the cost, you need to bear in mind that this $250 includes $70 to ship the shoes to the UK. (DM absorbed the cost of bringing them back in one of their shipments). I needed to spend around $100 to render them even wearable again. I took them to my regular cobbler and he said that the cork had started to wear, and he couldn't do anything to fix that. He basically said they were shot.

So the calculus was: 1/ chuck the shoes completely and fork out a minimum of $600 for replacements, 2/ spend $100 on a crap job that might not help at all, or 3/ spend $250 on refurbishing and see how it works out. I decided to give refurbishing a try, to see what it's like.

What do you mean by a highly-pigmented polish?. I have a few different shades of brown in Saphir creams and polishes.

 

Nice to hear DM were willing to bring them back for you.

post #35434 of 54038
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post


For a long time these were my only pair of brown shoes, so I wore them at least twice a week over a period of years. They didn't get adequate care, as you can see.

When considering the cost, you need to bear in mind that this $250 includes $70 to ship the shoes to the UK. (DM absorbed the cost of bringing them back in one of their shipments). I needed to spend around $100 to render them even wearable again. I took them to my regular cobbler and he said that the cork had started to wear, and he couldn't do anything to fix that. He basically said they were shot.

So the calculus was: 1/ chuck the shoes completely and fork out a minimum of $600 for replacements, 2/ spend $100 on a crap job that might not help at all, or 3/ spend $250 on refurbishing and see how it works out. I decided to give refurbishing a try, to see what it's like.

What do you mean by a highly-pigmented polish?. I have a few different shades of brown in Saphir creams and polishes.

 

Sorry if I was a bit critical before - long week.  I should have thanked you for informing everyone of the cost of the factory resole and providing detailed pictures of the work performed.

 

By highly-pigmented polish I meant a colour restoring cream like Saphir as it seemed to me that they were a few shades lighter than the current dark brown Audley's.  As you already use this perhaps C&J use a different shade now.  They look well maintained to me.

 

The Goodyear Welt and cork issue is a major one.  I know even the best cobbler's in Sydney won't replace the cork.  I think if it was very badly damaged they might be able to carve a piece of leather in its place, but it's doubtful.  In this situation, I may have tried the factory resole.  

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I've seen some cobblers replacing the cork filling with a synthetic foam like alternative. I imagine the only downside is it wouldn't hold shape like cork would, but also wouldn't rot like cork would. Both have their advantages I guess.

post #35436 of 54038
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

Well I went to Double Monk today and picked up my refurbished C&J Audleys. Here's a cross=post form the C&J thread.

This is a pair of Crockett & Jones Audleys that I returned to the factory in Northampton for refurbishment.

The first photo shows the neglected state they were in. The heels were worn right down at the back, and the soles had been worn all the way through to the cork.

The other photos show the shoes after they came back. So what had C&J done?

1. Replaced the cork, welt, soles and heels on the original last. The soles and heels look magnificent - i'm reluctant to walk around in them now!

2. New insoles

4. New laces.

5. Thorough clean, with the patina looking really nice.

The total cost was $250, including shipping from Australia to the UK and back. If you consider that a quality shoe repairer here in Melbourne would probably charge $100 for a full set of soles and heels, this looks like pretty good value. I wouldn't do this for any old shoe, but would certainly consider the exercise for another high-end pair of shoes. in future.
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Thanks for sharing the photos and cost, great job on the factory resole.

Does your regular cobbler offer a full resole or half resole as a service? Because I see plenty of worn through soles coming through my cobbler, and he fixes them up alright.

For me, I just topy and don't have to worry about this.
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Just watched the movie that was referenced earlier today - The Best Offer. This was one of the best movies I've seen all year! It has everything - plot, original track, great actors, and wardrobe. Left me still thinking about it way afterwards. Highly highly recommended. 

 

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post #35438 of 54038
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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

 

Old man made a pizza oven a while back, will PM you the recipe, unless others are interested?

 

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post


SWMBO only hand washes linen clothing.

Re pizza dough I have a couple that work very well will have to dig them out as they are PDF and can send it via PM if anyone interested.

Now excuse me my labours are done the wine has aired and I will settle in to watch the rugby.Go the Brumbies.

 

I'm keen - PM or post at your leisure, please!

post #35439 of 54038
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Originally Posted by LonerMatt View Post


I'm keen - PM or post at your leisure, please!
Hey matt part of the way to get a good base is to have a stone or vented tray and preheat it to the max.. Otherwise you get a soggy disaster
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

Hey matt part of the way to get a good base is to have a stone or vented tray and preheat it to the max.. Otherwise you get a soggy disaster

+1 on the stone tray. The crust on my home-made pizzas improved considerably once I got a couple of them.
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I use to be a huge fan of pizza stones and whilst I still use them, when making my own base they seem to come out better on the vented tray

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Having neither a stone or a vented tray (as far as I know) that's a huge tip I think.

 

I'm essentially going to become the world's greatest in-home chef in rural Australia.

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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

 

Yes, I tend to agree with this view.

 

Which one, GN? There are four: -

 

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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post


I see where you are coming from, you like (1) a clean, simple aesthetic done well. (2) For me, that kind of aesthetic is more like anesthetic: (3) fun in small doses. (4) TEHO.
post #35444 of 54038
I have a flannel Club Monaco 3 roll 2 jacket that I want to get rid of. Pictures of it can be found here: http://imgur.com/Evvhbrg,3H7q8yL,JM1I6qY and full jacket shot: http://imgur.com/Wj24jLr

I'm asking for $40 plus postage. Hardly worn since I bought it from the states. The size is a 40S.
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post #35445 of 54038
I know we talked about this yesterday, but I think CDs shoes look fantastic post-refurb. I don't mind at all that there is still some evident creasing on the shoe. I like it. To me, good shoes look their worst when they're brand new; stiff, lifeless and often in the case of goodyear welted shoes that aren't the likes of St. Crispin's, John Lobb, and others in that league of "refinement", a little clunky. These look fantastic.

CD, I'm not sure if they were in fact yours, but a few months back when I was at Double Monk I saw dark brown Audley's with a hole in the soul about to sent out to England. If they were yours then the job that's been is incredible. The shoes I saw looked very hacked up.
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