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Originally Posted by The False Prophet View Post

So I'm visiting Melbourne town tomorrow for the first time in years. Other than the bleeding obvious (Double Monk, Bucks, PJ, American Tailors, Luisa), where should I be checking out?

Azzarro. And maybe make an appointment with Matt for a Suit Shop chat. Visit Richard at Ludlow's and play with his HC line. (When the trunk show was on, they had a stand of suits at unbelievable prices, but they may be gone now). Drop in at the Men's Biz warehouse.

If you like cologne, the perfume section at Myer Melbourne, including the Mecca stand, is great. Not cheap, but you will get to try some amazing stuff.

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Finally, how's the weather? tongue.gif

Pack a coat. And a sweater, a scarf, some gloves and your thermals.
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Don't go much on these particular boots but some interesting interviews about the history of the chelsea, particularly from the owner of Grenson and the bloke from GJ Cleverley.

http://www.mrporter.com/journal/journal_issue122/6?cm_mmc=Email-_-WNP-_-090713-_-H3
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OK guys, apologies from this newbie for raising the topy spectre again. I suppose I should just do a search to see if there's a dedicated pros/cons thread.

 

It's just that I took a brand-new pair of G&G double monks to a local cobbler to have another hole punched in the front strap. The guy looks at these beautiful, unmarked, fiddleback soles and says "you should have these Topied". To me, it was a kind of sacrilege - like recommending weatherproofing spray on a Leonardo.

 

But - of course shoes are made to be worn. At some point I'll start wearing my G&Gs and those gorgeously pristine soles will get all hacked up. But it will be years before they are worn enough to require a re-sole. Then I'll just send them back to Norwich.

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I suppose that would make sense if your walking life is as lacking in variety and serendipity as your sex life.

 

Hey, we don't all live on farms.

post #34175 of 58029
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Originally Posted by iSurg View Post

Gentlemen, I think we need to accept the fact that the topy and RMW conversations are a regular cyclical phenomenon here.

As good cobblers are rarer than mechanics who'll service a Fiat or Alfa it's probably fair enough.

FXH, POP - a while ago I went to the funeral of an elderly neighbour. Being the sad sack I am, I looked around and the place was packed with old blokes in blazers, oxfords and brogues.

Was there ever a golden age of luxury shoes in Australia's past or has it always been those with money buying churches on trips to the continent?
post #34176 of 58029
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As good cobblers are rarer than mechanics who'll service a Fiat or Alfa it's probably fair enough.

FXH, POP - a while ago I went to the funeral of an elderly neighbour. Being the sad sack I am, I looked around and the place was packed with old blokes in blazers, oxfords and brogues.

Was there ever a golden age of luxury shoes in Australia's past or has it always been those with money buying churches on trips to the continent?


There certainly was a time in the past when brands like Florsheim etc made far, far better shoes than they do nowadays.

I find it very unfortunate that such brands took a dive in quality when they decided to outsource production to India/Asia/other cheap labour places, as it wasn't necessary for them to do so - after all, they were already saving on labour costs so they didn't need to save on production costs, too. However, regrettably, that's what they did and nowadays most people simply accept it.

My father was quite well-dressed and had a couple of "off-the-Row" bespoke suits that were made in London in the 1950s before he came to Australia, and he also had a few pairs of nice shoes. However, although blokes tended to be quite well-dressed back then (even blue collar workers dressed well on their way to and from the factory, as a rule), they didn't have much in the way of clothes in their wardrobes. As an example, my dad had two bespoke suits, a few odd jackets, including one in Harris tweed, fewer than ten shirts, including one white shirt with French cuffs for more formal wear, a pair of black, plaintoe oxfords, a pair of brown wingtips in a pebblegrain finish and another pair of brown bluchers that I don't really remember.

My father took really good care of his clothes and his shoes and his black shoes were at least a few decades old and had been resoled at least a couple of times. My father used to Topy his own shoes, too.

I think that sort of philosophy has largely disappeared now and, instead, it's much more common for men to just get one pair of cheaply-made (although not necessarily cheap) shoes, wear them until they wear out, and then get another pair and repeat the process.

So, to finally answer your question, I think that there certainly as a time when good-quality shoes were more commonly available and more commonly worn here in Australia, but that men in general only had one or two pairs of such shoes and that they, in general, took good care of them and made them last a long time.
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^ Nice post JM. My dad worked in blue collar jobs all his life but always had four or five really nice pairs of shoes (some of them hand made).

Good shoes were certainly more readily available, and the other forgotten factor is that there were people making good quality shoes (in Melbourne at least). Not just one or two shops either.
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Originally Posted by wishiwasricher View Post

Did you use thesun a cobbler jase?

I've topied a couple just to prolong their life and have toe taps on others. I know some people are against them aesthetically but to be honest- I don't get too many comments about how good the soles of my shoes look.
Manuka cobbler in Fyswhick mate. He is the best in Canberra. Cost $72 I think for a new heel, topy and metal taps.
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post


my cobbler

Who do you use?

post #34180 of 58029
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Originally Posted by The False Prophet View Post

So I'm visiting Melbourne town tomorrow for the first time in years. Other than the bleeding obvious (Double Monk, Bucks, PJ, American Tailors, Luisa), where should I be checking out?

Finally, how's the weather? tongue.gif

Here is an old post I did about visiting Melbourne that may help a little (there are probably some new places now) - http://linenforsummertweedforwinter.tumblr.com/post/16382719413/hey-man-i-saw-a-couple-of-places-that-youre-from

Loving this cold weather, finally get to use my whole wardrobe including scarves, gloves, overcoats and I do not arrive to work hot and sweaty after the 15 minute walk.
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

^ Nice post JM. My dad worked in blue collar jobs all his life but always had four or five really nice pairs of shoes (some of them hand made).

Good shoes were certainly more readily available, and the other forgotten factor is that there were people making good quality shoes (in Melbourne at least). Not just one or two shops either.

My dad started out as a fitter-and-turner and he said that he used to wear his good clothes to work and then change into overalls and boots at work - and he wasn't the only one, as most of his workmates used to do the same.

Even after my father became an engineer, he'd still often have to get dirty on work sites, but once again he'd dress well to head to work and then change into work clothes once he got there.

He wore shorts around the house but whenever left the house, he'd always put on a pair of long trousers, a button-up shirt and proper shoes.
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Originally Posted by Stebbin View Post

Has anybody had troubles getting RM Williams to do a resole of screwed boots after having them topied? I can see on the box that RM Williams does not accept modifications when they recraft their soles but a topy doesn't actually change anything about the shoe aside from the sole, which is getting replaced anyway. 

 

Back when I worked for RMW (over 10 years ago), the company line was to discourage people from topying the soles of the boots. I imagine that it does require some additional work back in the factory as they'd need to remove the rubber oversole before (in your case) unscrewing the leather sole. The argument would probably be that they don't possess the correct equipment to do this in a way that wouldn't require additional time - and that this extra effort isn't captured in the standard pricing list.
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

My dad started out as a fitter-and-turner and he said that he used to wear his good clothes to work and then change into overalls and boots at work - and he wasn't the only one, as most of his workmates used to do the same.

Yes, this seemed to be a very common practice, my dad would do the same. I did work experience at his factory once and remember the locker room where everyone would get into their overalls. There were nudie pictures on the walls.
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Originally Posted by Stebbin View Post

Has anybody had troubles getting RM Williams to do a resole of screwed boots after having them topied? I can see on the box that RM Williams does not accept modifications when they recraft their soles but a topy doesn't actually change anything about the shoe aside from the sole, which is getting replaced anyway. 

Back when I worked for RMW (over 10 years ago), the company line was to discourage people from topying the soles of the boots. I imagine that it does require some additional work back in the factory as they'd need to remove the rubber oversole before (in your case) unscrewing the leather sole. The argument would probably be that they don't possess the correct equipment to do this in a way that wouldn't require additional time - and that this extra effort isn't captured in the standard pricing list.

Correct me if I am wrong, isn't the whole point of topy is that one does not need to resole, just replace the topy that also lasts 2 to 3 times longer.
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