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post #33916 of 55257
Man, I can't even remember the 70s. Must've had a sweet time.
post #33917 of 55257
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Originally Posted by Kyon View Post


I think most people who I meet for the first time are a little surprised. I find that women are more receptive to the way I dress, or the way many of you might dress -- they like it and find it refreshing or charming.


I do worry about becoming a character on campus; there is a confessional page on Facebook where people confess their undying love or sexual fantasies with other people on campus, several friends have pointed out that some of them may be directed towards me, so I fear it may already be too late, however I don't think I am as vulgar as Top Hat Guy, who peacocked around campus last year.


While not all of it has been positive, I did rub somebody who I had never met the wrong way with my mere presence -- I happened to be wearing a sweater, shirt, and tie. He found necessary to interrupt a conversation I was having with two other students to verbally abuse me and enforce a sweatpants uniform. It was very strange, but the two ladies I happened to be talking to put an end to it, for which I am grateful for as I didn't really have anything nice to say; he looked as if he rolled out of bed and put on yesterday's sweatpants.

Sorry mate, that was probably me in my college on-campus frat boy days. Please forgive me, I've since converted to the Sartorial ways now.
post #33918 of 55257
Sadly underreported and generally under appreciated Gary Shearston died this week.

He was one of the first to sing with a distinctive Australian accent and also recorded Australian folk songs in UK with reggae backing.

All his albums are good but two from the 70s - Dingo - and - The Greatest Stone On Earth And Other Two-Bob Wonders are true milestones in Australian music and worth getting your hands on for a few listens. They still stand up well.

Strangely Gary had a hit in UK in the 70s with I Get A Kick Out Of You. Australian voice and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAAYE84Ye2I

Shopping On A Saturday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akI-8BUMF7M
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Gary Shearston was born in 1939 in Inverell, New South Wales. As a child he lived on a farm at Tenterfield until almost a teenager, when drought caused his family to move to Sydney.

During the late 1950s and early 1960s he established himself professionally as one of Australia's leading folk singers of both traditional and contemporary song. In the 1960s he released seven albums which were very influential in the Australian folk music scene of the day. By this stage, he was also being recognised as a significant singer-songwriter. As one review said in 1966, he was "a unique composer of true stature on the Australian scene". His album, Gary Shearston Sings His Songs, released in 1966, further demonstrated his song writing ability. Included on this record was the song, Sometime Lovin', which Peter Paul and Mary were later to record.

In the late 1960s Gary left Australia, living and working in America and Europe. While living in England he recorded two albums, Dingo (1974) and The Greatest Stone on Earth and Other Two Bob Wonders (1975). From the former album his version of the Cole Porter song, "I Get a Kick Out of You", brought him considerable international recognition.

He returned to Australia to live permanently in late 1988. 1989 saw the release of his novel, Balkenna, co-written with Michael Thomas, and his album, Aussie Blue. In July 1992 he was ordained as a priest in the Anglican Church. In 1993 he was appointed as the parish priest at Hay in the south-west of New South Wales, a parish of some 15000 hectares. From Hay he moved to his present parish at Bangalow in northern New South Wales.
More:
http://simplyaustralia.net/interview-garyshearston.html

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Around September of 1962, Brian Mooney was hired to sing Irish and international songs on Thursday evenings at the Paddington jazz joint the Bird and the Bottle. At this early stage, Mooney - who, of course, was to become one of the major contributors to the Melbourne scene - cited blues greats Ma Rainey and Bessie Smith as key influences on his music. Another early lounge was “a place in Double Bay, behind the Wheatsheaf Hotel”, where “reefer-jacketed hoons used to drink”: Mooney and Johnny Earls performed there. Folksingers surfaced for a time at a restaurant run by Mexicans at Vaucluse, while Bill Berry performed a number of paid gigs for union members at the Ironworkers Hall A year (or so) later, live folksinging was also featured at the Flying Dutchman, a basement coffee lounge in the city centre, at 55A Elizabeth Street. The best-remembered of the performers there was GARY SHEARSTON.

Edited by fxh - 7/4/13 at 11:18pm
post #33919 of 55257
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Originally Posted by Dusty Brogues View Post

+ 1

Mr Nelson would those splendid stb be Vass?

Those are Edward Green Dovers. :-)
post #33920 of 55257
Back in Brisbane after two weeks in Japan. Just went to the dentist and had a wisdom tooth extracted - not a great way to get out of the holiday mood!

Picked up plenty of summer clothes at Uniqlo, including some of the most comfortable chino shorts I've ever worn and a couple of Michael Bastian x Uniqlo polo shirts.

I'm now gradually reading through the 500 or so posts from the past couple of weeks in the Oz Member's thread.

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Originally Posted by The False Prophet View Post

Sweet, thanks Boff. I'm used to Royal Mail being good bit their website suggests shipping is slow...


TFP, Royal Mail usually takes a week, in my experience - much faster to get stuff from the UK rather than the US, which usually takes two weeks via USPS. I don't know how long Thurston will take to actually post the braces. I know that, if requested, they will put particular ends on the braces for you before sending them, which would obviously take a little time and make things take a bit longer.
post #33921 of 55257
D'oh! Double post, for some reason.
Edited by Journeyman - 7/4/13 at 11:29pm
post #33922 of 55257
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Originally Posted by Cubits View Post


Sparing that, where do Brisbane-based folk go for their MTM?

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Originally Posted by Nolvadex View Post

I Haven't been myself but it seem like Journeyman gets a lot of his clothes from Deer style

+1.
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Originally Posted by The False Prophet View Post

Deer is certainly the premier option. Don't, repeat don't, go to Cloakroom.

+100.

As mentioned, I've got about ten made-to-measure shirts, a few suits, an odd jacket and a few ties from Deer Style, as well as a couple of off-the-rack, handmade shirts from G. Inglese in Italy made for Deer Style, which are easily as good as my Borrelli shirts.

Rene is great to deal with, as he is very knowledgeable, very friendly and very helpful.

http://deerstyle.tumblr.com/

https://www.facebook.com/Deerstyle

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Originally Posted by lukejackson View Post

Anyone have a suggestion for a casual shoe for walking a fair bit (for someone with crap feet etc)? I've been wearing loafers but they don't seem to cut it any more due to lack of support etc. I was considering boat shoes (sperry's I guess) and additionally putting in an inner sole. I already have nice sneakers which of course are the best option but I was looking towards something a bit less casual etc. that is readily available in Australia (Brisbane) and won't break the bank and can be worn with shorts. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Oli2012 View Post

Chukkas or chelseas IMO.

Edit: wait shorts... Yeah probably sperrys.

I wear boat shoes/deck shoes all the time in summer and I think that it's a good look. Mine have been very hard-wearing, too.
post #33923 of 55257
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Originally Posted by nabilmust View Post

Brown + White + Blue + Grey today.

 

God, this weather is awesome.

 

 

Young man, where is your tie?

post #33924 of 55257
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

Young man, where is your tie?

 

Lol.. No client meetings or court appearance; and it's a polo-t so I left the tie at home

post #33925 of 55257
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Originally Posted by PapaRubbery View Post

Just wanted to say thanks to those who responded to my query about what I guess is a bit of an ivy league look. 

I'm used to medicos - so suit and tie - this is related but more subdued. Going to experiment a little but I'm pretty confident I'll only new a few pieces to 'dress down' my CBD wardrobe. 

I realise that I'm rather late to the discussion, but I worked in uni admin a bit over a decade ago, and my role - which was in international education - involved liaising with a lot of dept/faculty heads or senior academics so as to organise memoranda of understanding with overseas institutions, and also arranging meetings between staff at our uni and overseas universities.

I tended to wear blue shirts (sometimes with button-down collar, sometimes spread collar), odd trousers (usually mid-grey or brown) or chino pants, and plain captoes or longwings. With regard to ties, I wore some knits and a few prints.

The best dressed person beside me in our branch was the director, and he typically wore a white shirt, blue tie, navy blazer and either beige or mid-grey trousers - a conservative look that was not too formal yet not too casual.

The only people that I ever saw wearing suits were the Vice-Chancellor and other senior staff, such as the DVCs and PVCs and the occasional faculty dean.
post #33926 of 55257
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Originally Posted by PapaRubbery

Just wanted to say thanks to those who responded to my query about what I guess is a bit of an ivy league look.

I'm used to medicos - so suit and tie - this is related but more subdued. Going to experiment a little but I'm pretty confident I'll only new a few pieces to 'dress down' my CBD wardrobe.
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

I realise that I'm rather late to the discussion, but I worked in uni admin a bit over a decade ago, and my role - which was in international education - involved liaising with a lot of dept/faculty heads or senior academics so as to organise memoranda of understanding with overseas institutions, and also arranging meetings between staff at our uni and overseas universities.
I tended to wear blue shirts (sometimes with button-down collar, sometimes spread collar), odd trousers (usually mid-grey or brown) or chino pants, and plain captoes or longwings. With regard to ties, I wore some knits and a few prints.
The best dressed person beside me in our branch was the director, and he typically wore a white shirt, blue tie, navy blazer and either beige or mid-grey trousers - a conservative look that was not too formal yet not too casual.
The only people that I ever saw wearing suits were the Vice-Chancellor and other senior staff, such as the DVCs and PVCs and the occasional faculty dean.

papa - I haven't had time to type - still haven't really - but... some short notes...

I've worked directly on campus for a uni (and TAFE!) and in most jobs I've had a lot to do with Unis - like hosting departments as part of work and forging contracts/relationships etc partnership in research etc. and setting up departments.

The basic statement is in most faculties if you are neat and clean and own more than 3 sets of outfits then you will be unusual. There is an immature dependent mentality in much of academia that encourages a perpetual adolescence especially in males.

That said it does vary between university, campus and discipline, and rural and urban. Other than brief visits I am only familiar with Victorian Unis. I'd say that based on visits other states are no better and often worse - ref: Qld/NT/WA

Lets start with an anecdote and observation - Some time ago I was invited back to a "re-union" of the particular campus I had worked on. I think it was about 20 years since I had first worked there. Anyway - most people were recognisable by the clothes they wore. I can particularly remember two members from the Engineering faculty. I swear they were wearing the exact same clothes as they wore 20 years earlier. Shrunken v necked woolen jumpers and jeans and nondescript green coloured shirts - open necked and beards - scraggly and unshaped. The only difference was less hair - balding and bigger bellies. I'm not using hyperbole here - I do really think it was the same clothes.

Like a lot of things in life it depends what you want to achieve. If you want to influence people, shape opinions, get people onside , build things, encourage people to follow you -then you will dress different than if you are a lab scientist who just does his/her job or an IT service person who only needs to keep the network up or a (typical) resentful lecturer who doesn't care beyond their immediate job. Many jobs don't require much effort to influence and convert and achieve things by getting people to work together and listen / respond to you.

In the above cases it doesn't matter what you wear - because - in general - you don't care what people think and you only mix with your own kind.

If on the other hand you want to get things done, because you care, or because its your job, to mix and influence with a range of people NOT made in your own image then you might think about how you present.

There is an added complication, in a campus of academics who pride themselves on their "eccentricity" and "uniqueness" there is a stultifying conformity in dress that anywhere else would be considered a breach of human rights legislation.

An inner city "arts" faculty will tolerate little outside of black, nondescript greys and general un-ironed scruffiness. Occasionally they will permit a clean black look and sometimes a surly resentful "fun" tie on a ill fitting black shirt.

Outside of arts and liberal sciences jeans and ill fitting creased shirts worn for a week at a time are de rigueur and a tie will be seen as selling out to "admin" and possibly the cause of a complaint to the union or at least shunning in the tea room over stale tea bags and soggy malt biscuits. A suit that fits will be seen as "oppressive" to workers - all this by people on secure tenure and above average salaries and working hours that provide for every Friday off and much "working from home" and leisurely 6 weeks over xmas holidays. Not to mention numerous junkets to conferences interstate

I better go but a bit more:

Medical and Business faculties are comfortable with suits and ties. And even being well dressed.

If you want or have to interact and co-operate and influence lost of people you will need first impressions and lasting impressions.

Clothes too neat or too new will frighten many immature people. A tie will be often seen as suspect. A tailored jacket will sometimes be suspect.

You will need to dress for the day - if you need to consult with the sociology dudes then a suit and tie will work against you - you need not too clean jeans and open necked shirt - working with the Medicine women and blokes on a building project - then a suit and tie is fine - the Arts women on a new building? - then don't wear a tie - at least on first meting - after people know you a while and trust you then anything is ok - the arts women will even like a suit and tie ...{wink}

If you have money, grants or promotions to distribute then wear what you want - everyone will suck up to you.

This is all a bit quick and might not be fair ........
Edited by fxh - 7/5/13 at 5:09am
post #33927 of 55257

Academics tend to eschew sartorialism, as they like to regard themselves as "serious thinkers" for whom all of the petty vicissitudes of mere mortals are a distraction from the important stuff.

 

The important stuff being, writing endless grant applications, marking undergrad exam papers, and pooh-pooing their competitors' presentations at conferences.

 

Yeah, right.

 

My brother is a professor, worked on campus all his life, runs his own lab, publication list a mile long etc etc. Worst dress sense I've ever seen. He wears his unspeakable rags like a badge of honour. Bah.

post #33928 of 55257
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

Those are Edward Green Dovers. :-)

EG's.... Well done, look superb! Very elegant.
post #33929 of 55257
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

Good to meet Matt and catch up with some of the other guys last night at the Supper Club. Matt, I went home and finished a book, just to make sure you don't get too far ahead. smile.gif

 

My pleasure! My current book is going to take me at least until tomorrow to finish.

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