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post #33901 of 54878
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post


Agree with almost everything here, except for your comment re GST. The government does not get 10% GST of retail, because the vendor can claim back the GST paid on the expenses incurred in getting the shoes to you.

True, except that the main bulk of COGS is shoes and freight paid overseas, which has no GST component.

post #33902 of 54878
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

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Nice shoes.  I hate you Gerry.

post #33903 of 54878
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

How much do you pay for a pair of CJ, are they bench grade or hand grade?
American Tailors have handgrade for $595, benchgrade for $500.

Double Monk sell a suede Tetbury for $450, calf leather for $550

In Manchester a pair of handgrades cost 475 pounds (782 dollars). Tetburies are between 305 - 355 pounds ($500 - 550 AUD). I think those prices are the same as RRP in London, C&J are fairly strict about retail pricing (which is why they stopped selling to P.Lal).

I would suggest that the American Tailors prices are for existing stock bought at a more favourable exchange rate and the prices will rise again soon. I bought a pair of Weymouth from them back in 2011 for $700 AUD. At the time if I ordered them directly from the C&J mail-order service in London they would have cost me $650.
post #33904 of 54878
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Originally Posted by FredAstaire1899 View Post

Does anyone have any tips on when American Tailors or Double Monk might have some sales?
American Tailors usually go on sale in the first week of July. I'd keep an eye out next week.
post #33905 of 54878
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

It's probably worth pointing out that a Loake 1880 and C&J bench grade would be within about 10 pounds of each other at a wholesale cost, which would all be in leather quality. If you think about it they are both made in England, with the same technique, staff would get paid around the same and other manufacturing costs about the same. So to me it's not that surprising, and I think $400 AUD is perfectly reasonable for a B&M store where you can try them on. Loakes are very underrated shoes at the 1880 level.
I'm skeptical about this. I remember one forum (Ask Andy? Film Noir) had a member who worked as a contract employee in the Northampton shoe industry for over a decade. He said that C&J invest the most in newer machinery and keep their factory plant and processes in the best condition. He had many interesting observations about each particular company he had worked for.
post #33906 of 54878
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

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+ 1

Mr Nelson would those splendid stb be Vass?
post #33907 of 54878

Brown + White + Blue + Grey today.

 

God, this weather is awesome.

 

 

post #33908 of 54878
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

^ You can charge that much extra when you have such high demand for your products.

Today....
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Coat: Riviera
Shirt: Kamakura
Tie: Henry Carter dark blue knit
Trousers: Henry Carter super dooper single pleated, side adjusted, higher rised, made in Italy mid grey flannel pre-production samples.
Shoes: Carmina burgundy derbies
PappaR and any others thinking about how to dress professionally without wearing a suit could do a lot worse than take inspiration from this example.
post #33909 of 54878
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Originally Posted by nabilmust View Post

Brown + White + Blue + Grey today.

God, this weather is awesome.

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+1 to that, a perfect Sydney spring day... in early July!
post #33910 of 54878
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

True, except that the main bulk of COGS is shoes and freight paid overseas, which has no GST component.

And rent, and storage and all those other things Mr Harvey complains about.
post #33911 of 54878
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

How much do you pay for a pair of CJ, are they bench grade or hand grade?
American Tailors have handgrade for $595, benchgrade for $500.

Double Monk sell a suede Tetbury for $450, calf leather for $550

In Manchester a pair of handgrades cost 475 pounds (782 dollars). Tetburies are between 305 - 355 pounds ($500 - 550 AUD). I think those prices are the same as RRP in London, C&J are fairly strict about retail pricing (which is why they stopped selling to P.Lal).

I would suggest that the American Tailors prices are for existing stock bought at a more favourable exchange rate and the prices will rise again soon. I bought a pair of Weymouth from them back in 2011 for $700 AUD. At the time if I ordered them directly from the C&J mail-order service in London they would have cost me $650.

That is indeed some very good price from AT. Even though we do get the 20% off VAT.
post #33912 of 54878
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

That is indeed some very good price from AT. Even though we do get the 20% off VAT.
But he also has a 10% GST.

At the end of the day my point is this. C&J seem to have a business model which allows retailers at opposite ends of the planet to sell a product at similar prices. Evidently the prices are sufficient for the retailers to make a profit, otherwise they wouldn't stock them.

Loake evidently don't do this. I wonder how their business model is different.
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P.Lal pricing on C&J was the best. Amiright Gerry? wink.gif
post #33914 of 54878
So good that C&J came down on the heads like the wrath of G** for making the rest of their outlets look bad.
post #33915 of 54878
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

+1 to that, a perfect Sydney spring day... in early July!

Yes very odd I was in town Tuesday and didn't even need a jumper and then come back to Canberra, 8c the wind coming off the snow line, hat, gloves, scarf and overcoat and still the wind goes straight you.ffffuuuu.gif

My Clarks DB arrived just now, can't for the life of me see how you could size and fit into them, have to give them a spray with a suede protector before wearing them out. I had been looking at the Kimber DB but that colour stripe on the back of the boot is far too 70's for my tastes.
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