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Originally Posted by Vestment Baller View Post

Unless you are a retail banker, is there ever a good reason to wear a tie clip?


I wear a tie clip with knit ties, but tend not to with other ties.

Mine is a plain, sterling silver one from J.Press.
post #32327 of 57963

I have just ordered the following from Amazon:

 

 'A Timeless Guide to Fashion' by Roetzel

The Suit: A Machiavellian Approach to Men's Style

 

Hopefully they'll give me a good starting point

 

Thanks for the advice people.

post #32328 of 57963
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Originally Posted by boff View Post

Lovely outfit, but I really don't like a single turn up on jeans. Either hem them or buy them long enough to build a proper turn up.
Perhaps like this or this. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I'm 6"2 so there isn't too much denim long enough to roll like that, and I'm not too keen on the look anyway. It depends on what shoes I'm wearing really, if I shorten these the 2cm they are folded, then they are too short to wear with shoes or trainers (as opposed to boots). It's not something I think about too much to be honest.
post #32329 of 57963
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Originally Posted by hasnostyle View Post

On the subject of books. Are there books anyone can recommend that go through the basics of colour combinations, clothing types, styles etc that would be a good beginners guide to male fashion? Particularly if there is an emphasis on suits and/or formal and business wear.

Practical Thoughts on Coherent Combinations for Beginners

 

Reddit MFA has some businesswear guides.

 

As others have mentioned, the WAYWT thread.

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post #32331 of 57963
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Originally Posted by aussiejake View Post

Practical Thoughts on Coherent Combinations for Beginners

Reddit MFA has some businesswear guides.

As others have mentioned, the WAYWT thread.

Yeah, let's not take advice from a bunch of fedora wearing neckbeards.
post #32332 of 57963
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Originally Posted by aussiejake View Post

Practical Thoughts on Coherent Combinations for Beginners

 

Reddit MFA has some businesswear guides.

 

As others have mentioned, the WAYWT thread.

Thanks Jake

 

Thats exactly the sort of thread i was searching for when i first joined, but could not find.

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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

I'm 6"2 so there isn't too much denim long enough to roll like that, and I'm not too keen on the look anyway. It depends on what shoes I'm wearing really, if I shorten these the 2cm they are folded, then they are too short to wear with shoes or trainers (as opposed to boots). It's not something I think about too much to be honest.

IMO the single turnups are fine, especially in the context of the MC aesthetic. Unless you're a fan of tissue paper denim, don't think the pronounced chunkiness of a multi rollup is going to gel well with HC's sleeker MC aesthetic.
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Originally Posted by Prof. B. Bear View Post


Yeah, let's not take advice from a bunch of fedora wearing neckbeards.

 

LOL! 

 

*le upvote*

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

But seriously man, fuck reddit 

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There's a much more recent companion to that SF thread, and an associated tumblr:

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/317329/jrds-guide-to-coherent-sportcoat-combinations

http://jrd617sguides.tumblr.com/

 

Avoiding MFA is good advice as well. That place is crazy.

post #32336 of 57963
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Originally Posted by hasnostyle View Post

I have just ordered the following from Amazon:

 'A Timeless Guide to Fashion' by Roetzel

The Suit: A Machiavellian Approach to Men's Style




Hopefully they'll give me a good starting point

Thanks for the advice people.

Read The Suit with a grain of salt and consider it the Sartorial equivalent of The Art Of War.
post #32337 of 57963
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Originally Posted by hasnostyle View Post

On the subject of books. Are there books anyone can recommend that go through the basics of colour combinations, clothing types, styles etc that would be a good beginners guide to male fashion? Particularly if there is an emphasis on suits and/or formal and business wear.

I'll offer a contrasting response to the many replies that you have gotten so far.

What the books recommended so far will "teach" you (or at least attempt to do so) is a set of rules which if you follow will be guaranteed a minimum level of "taste". They are written by older men who are all successful in a conventional way, come from broadly similar backgrounds (educated, white, upper middle class) and this is reflected in their choice of clothes. This may or may not be something you aspire to. However they cannot possibly go through every single possible feature of an outfit - e.g. a slight difference in collar style can elevate a "OK' look to "wow". Nor is the written word anywhere near an adequate substitute for your eyes.

Taste is subjective, and not of us all have it as it is most conventionally defined, no matter how hard they may try. That's OK, because in a sense taste is the antithesis of creativity, and we all come from different backgrounds and live in different contexts. tiraullier's outfits are not conventionally in "good taste" IMO, but they are certainly creative and do "work" for him. Ditto for PJ's and TR's outfits, but they do toe the line between taste/creativity. HC's outfits are tasteful, so are whnay's, Alan See's (Armoury), and certainly voxsartoria/FCcorbera.

Mastering conventional taste however, is the "safer", if more difficult option - and if you are ever through choice or necessity plunged into a conservative/conventional working environment having it will serve you well. It is more difficult because not only is it a smaller target to hit, like composing a haiku vs writing freeform prose there are rigid boundaries/formats to follow and express your creativity within.

You need to figure out where on the taste<---->creativity spectrum you lie, and IMO you can only do that through looking at a shit ton of images first, finding out what naturally appeals to you, and then finally using the books as an aid to help you understand why XYZ is considered tasteful and ABC is not.

TLDR: you need images on the internet to find what you are comfortable with, then use the books to help you get there
Edited by apropos - 5/30/13 at 6:26pm
post #32338 of 57963
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post

Read The Suit with a grain of salt and consider it the Sartorial equivalent of The Art Of War.

At the risk of sounding pedantic, it's more of the sartorial equivalent of Machiavelli's "The Prince".
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

At the risk of sounding pedantic, it's more of the sartorial equivalent of Machiavelli's "The Prince".

At the risk of sounding even more pedantic, it was a conscious effort on manton's part to mimic the same format, writing style, and the methods of arguments as The Prince. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Manuhiri View Post

Yesterday's discussion of split toes made me get my Meermin's out from the back of the wardrobe. I've always thought they were a bit too light in colour and a bit too red. But I took to them with some dark brown and then a coat of black polish and I'm pretty happy with the results.






Hey Manu, are those the Classic Collection split-toe bluchers?: http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=1947. They look pretty nice, and I've been looking for affordable (and not too narrow) STBs for a while now. Care to give me a mini-review?
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