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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

People seem to stand in awe of the mystical "roll" of some manufacturer's OCBDs, like it's a giant living in the hillside. It's simply a matter of long enough collar points (3 inches plus), and an unfused and maybe even unlined collar, no secrets.


Yeah my preference is for a wider spread on BD's with some tie space so they can be worn with a tie (important when you're in my business!) like you said personal preference though. Roll is one thing, but it's having the combo of good roll, tie space and an appropriate spread that makes a good BD. I'll likely wear them mostly with knit ties and possibly some wool and maybe a few repps.
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

Yeah my preference is for a wider spread on BD's with some tie space so they can be worn with a tie (important when you're in my business!) like you said personal preference though. Roll is one thing, but it's having the combo of good roll, tie space and an appropriate spread that makes a good BD. I'll likely wear them mostly with knit ties and possibly some wool and maybe a few repps.

lachy - sort of true - but there is something mystical about the roll.

One of the problems is that when you get down to it there is a few different ideas about what is the most desirable roll. (I think theres s recent thread started here with participation by infamous SF conservative posters and cult figures that illustrates the lack of consensus)

To put it simply there are those who like a symmetrical roll , like a normal 3 st dev graph curve, and those who like a less disciplined roll.
The "true old school BB roll" desired is undisciplined and will look different at the end of the day to the start and will roll differently on different days (and don't we all) and with and without a tie. And one side/peak will roll differently to the other.

(There is also the "European" Button down which tends toward flat and almost no roll) And theres those who aim for something in between.

The "authentic" BB roll usually needs unstructured collars and collar bands to get the floppy roll.

The length of points is important but so is height of collar, height of collar band, slope of collar band at front , placement of point buttons, spread of points, placement of point button holes, tie space, placement of first front button down from top and a few etcs..

Hence the focus on the mystical art - getting all these right is more difficult than it might seem.

The LE Hyde Park used to be a good option. Not just cheaper but a pretty bloody good shirt. Strangely, in my mind, I have two NON IRON ones (uni stripe - one pink - one blue) that are nicer shirts than the others.

BUT.
And its a big but.
LE in the last year or so has altered the collar and instead of being 3" peaks with 1"&7/8" collars - they are now 2.5" and 1" & 6/8" collars.

It makes them now just another reasonably good OCBD.
Theres a rumor that due to pressure from a few obsessives they will revert to to the old size. No news yet.

My "vintage" BB and LL BEAN OCBDs are 2" collars with 3" & 2/8" peaks.

The peak length does make a huge difference and it is possibly the most important variable in a good roll but it isn't the only consideration.

edit: and yeah I very often wear an OCBD and tie. Never with a suit although I do with a linen suit. I did notice in Tokyo recently that around 75% of all men in suits were wearing Button Down shirt. The young blokes with contrasting buttons and stitching. And possibly 60% of all men on the street were wearing suits.
Edited by fxh - 5/16/13 at 11:44pm
post #31592 of 51767
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

The way to wear a black knit tie...

 

 

Romp, if you cannot decide between Sydney or Melbourne, you will have to settle for Canberra. 

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post #31594 of 51767

MJ Bale now have 2 suits for $1,500. it looks like their "collection" labelled suits are now half canvas. for around the $750 figure i'd rather  a MTM suit from suitshop.

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Hey Lachyzee you've had experience with Luxire shirts haven't you?

I've decided I should get a few business shirts made up, and have measured 2 shirts that fit well (I think), and will use a combination or average of them both.

 

Thinking these ones:

http://luxire.com/collections/blue/products/white-blue-pinstripe

http://luxire.com/collections/blue/products/blue-almost-invisible-stripes

http://luxire.com/collections/blue/products/grey-blue-royal-oxford

 

Any opinions on fabric, or things to note in general about Luxire orders (ie do they ship quickly so only order 1 initially)?

I haven't even looked at collars or anything else yet, would want a standard type business shirt... 

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Posted by everyone

OCBDS ARE AWESOME SPECIARRY WID KNIT TIES!

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Originally Posted by tobiasj View Post

Speaking of which: I have a modest new collection of silk and wool knit ties now up at www.hightied.com. Please check them out; there are some fantastic colourways this time around, along with staples like navy, black and green.

Oh and the code 'freeship' should get you free shipping (within Australia only).

Feel free to PM me any questions/problems.

Thanks
Toby.

Hey guys....this is me as an american/italian industrialist

 

 Also great tie Toby; my first knit! OCBD's and Knits; have I wont the Aus Members thread today?

post #31597 of 51767

I must admit that I find the OCBD look with a tie to be very American and that button-downs are not proper business shirts in these parts.  Perhaps that comes from being in the lawyering game.  I do own button-downs, but not to wear with a suit and tie.

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Originally Posted by burnso View Post

Hey Lachyzee you've had experience with Luxire shirts haven't you?
I've decided I should get a few business shirts made up, and have measured 2 shirts that fit well (I think), and will use a combination or average of them both.

Thinking these ones:
http://luxire.com/collections/blue/products/white-blue-pinstripe
http://luxire.com/collections/blue/products/blue-almost-invisible-stripes
http://luxire.com/collections/blue/products/grey-blue-royal-oxford

Any opinions on fabric, or things to note in general about Luxire orders (ie do they ship quickly so only order 1 initially)?
I haven't even looked at collars or anything else yet, would want a standard type business shirt... 

They don't ship that quickly. Might be three weeks til you get them, I'd think.

I recommend just ordering one shirt, or one shirt and some accessories to get over 100$, in the expectation that your first one won't fit quite right.

A foolproof way to do it would be to send a shirt you love to them to get it copied. Saves a lot of pain,

I haven't got any of those fabrics, I do have another one of their Royal Oxfords though and it's nice, perfectly fine for suit & tie.

Their default collars are pretty good, really.
post #31599 of 51767
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Originally Posted by BaldwinP View Post

I must admit that I find the OCBD look with a tie to be very American and that button-downs are not proper business shirts in these parts.  Perhaps that comes from being in the lawyering game.  I do own button-downs, but not to wear with a suit and tie.

 

I wear OCBDs all the time in court.  I'd probably even run a knit tie, although I don't have any yet.

post #31600 of 51767
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post


They don't ship that quickly. Might be three weeks til you get them, I'd think.
 

Thanks for all that, have some more thinking to do. Might end up getting a shirt tailored first as a template so I know the fit is ok for future online purchases.

post #31601 of 51767
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Originally Posted by burnso View Post

Thanks for all that, have some more thinking to do. Might end up getting a shirt tailored first as a template so I know the fit is ok for future online purchases.

If you've got time to spare, do that.
post #31602 of 51767

Hi Brisbanites,

 

I recently found out that The Cloakroom on Edward st stocks Carmina! I'm not really on that side of town much, is anyone able to divulge details regarding range, dare l say price?

 

Thanks gents....

post #31603 of 51767
Expensive..... I think around $650-695 off memory.
post #31604 of 51767

+1 to Henry Carter's comment. Was there about 6-7 months ago, range is a bit limited and you have to go in to actually take a look. May be worth a visit if you're in that part of town. When I was there, they had a forest green calf captoe brogue in stock. Interesting colour.

post #31605 of 51767

about $400-450 off Carmina direct :)

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