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post #3136 of 53390
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Originally Posted by fxh View Post
LPPS - I get asked a lot to help dress young relatives and friends kids - the hardest part of having to help 18 - 20 year olds get a wardrobe or "quick suit" is dealing with the whole waist issue.

Most young guys wear their pants way down too low and are used to having a hanging crutch.

Even if they are interested in a suit this is a stumbling point. If you insist on getting the pants fitted for them around waist height - I don't mean high rise like us old guys but a bit above hips - then the minute they dress by themselves they will push the pants down on their hips and have a crutch like a babies poo nappy and pooled cuffs on the shoe.

I usually compromise by getting them fitted highish on the hips and leaving a bit of material on the end of the pants for future alterations - up or down.

Mostly I don't have much problem with the jacket fitting - they either initially get them too big or too small but mostly have no real objection to getting it right.

The saving grace is that almost anything looks pretty good on a young skinny tall guy.

Shoes are a nightmare and I have no advice. last two guys I just helped took size 11 -12 shoes!!!! - lucky to get even sneakers.

I'll usually walk into somewhere like Peter Jackson or Oxford on sale - not an old mans shop, and say to sales rep - we are here to buy two suits, but we want a 10% discount or alterations thrown in and two ties which I will choose. Usually a plain as possible black or dark blue tie and a wine coloured tie. No pastels as you can be sure the young blokes GF or parents will get him a gaudy tasteless one or two at some point.

Its easier for sales people to chuck in an extra article from the store than it is to give a discount. Remember a $60 discount is $60 less cash they get but a $60 tie only costs them around $20.

Make sure you get adjustments done before he gets to wear it - length of pants and sleeves is the basics might need letting in or out around waist.

Get a blue suit (or even black if they insist) and a lighter grey suit for a young bloke not a charcoal.

Take them to Myers or DJs and get 3 plain blue shirts and 3 plain white shirts - on sale - not R&B or others - look at van Heusen - otherwise they will buy crazy coloured striped shirts that wont go with anything. Don't worry about 100% cotton etc - they wont know or care. Again them their GF or parents will buy them a crazy coloured shirt or two at some point.

Don't get them to buy online - Its a hard game for experienced players.

Socks - get them a few pairs of plain grey and plain blue longish socks first up - otherwise they will end up wearing Target sports socks.

Oh and a half decent belt - they will only have a jeans belt of a casual thing. Its worth it if you can get a reversible brown/black belt.

Thanks FXH

This is good advice and exactly what I was after, even more than what I was initially asking for so this is really very good indeed.

This sort of thing is why I reckon this thread is so much better than all the others.

LPS
post #3137 of 53390
Quote:
Originally Posted by fxh View Post
LPPS - I get asked a lot to help dress young relatives and friends kids - the hardest part of having to help 18 - 20 year olds get a wardrobe or "quick suit" is dealing with the whole waist issue.

Most young guys wear their pants way down too low and are used to having a hanging crutch.

Even if they are interested in a suit this is a stumbling point. If you insist on getting the pants fitted for them around waist height - I don't mean high rise like us old guys but a bit above hips - then the minute they dress by themselves they will push the pants down on their hips and have a crutch like a babies poo nappy and pooled cuffs on the shoe.

I usually compromise by getting them fitted highish on the hips and leaving a bit of material on the end of the pants for future alterations - up or down.

Mostly I don't have much problem with the jacket fitting - they either initially get them too big or too small but mostly have no real objection to getting it right.

The saving grace is that almost anything looks pretty good on a young skinny tall guy.

Shoes are a nightmare and I have no advice. last two guys I just helped took size 11 -12 shoes!!!! - lucky to get even sneakers.

I'll usually walk into somewhere like Peter Jackson or Oxford on sale - not an old mans shop, and say to sales rep - we are here to buy two suits, but we want a 10% discount or alterations thrown in and two ties which I will choose. Usually a plain as possible black or dark blue tie and a wine coloured tie. No pastels as you can be sure the young blokes GF or parents will get him a gaudy tasteless one or two at some point.

Its easier for sales people to chuck in an extra article from the store than it is to give a discount. Remember a $60 discount is $60 less cash they get but a $60 tie only costs them around $20.

Make sure you get adjustments done before he gets to wear it - length of pants and sleeves is the basics might need letting in or out around waist.

Get a blue suit (or even black if they insist) and a lighter grey suit for a young bloke not a charcoal.

Take them to Myers or DJs and get 3 plain blue shirts and 3 plain white shirts - on sale - not R&B or others - look at van Heusen - otherwise they will buy crazy coloured striped shirts that wont go with anything. Don't worry about 100% cotton etc - they wont know or care. Again them their GF or parents will buy them a crazy coloured shirt or two at some point.

Don't get them to buy online - Its a hard game for experienced players.

Socks - get them a few pairs of plain grey and plain blue longish socks first up - otherwise they will end up wearing Target sports socks.

Oh and a half decent belt - they will only have a jeans belt of a casual thing. Its worth it if you can get a reversible brown/black belt.


I wish i read this during my uni days.
post #3138 of 53390
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
FXH,

Sad, but oh so very true.

The number of men I have seen trying on appalling stuff at the Herringbone warehouse sales is staggering - and most of the time they leave the actual selection of stuff to their girlfriends, and it is the GF who is choosing the outlandishly striped shirts and the striped ties to go with the shirts!

Sigh...

What is the Gen Y thing with girlfriends doing the clothes choice? Is this because so many guys these days live with their GFs so that essentially they fulfil the c.1950s/60s/70s role of their mothers/wives minus an sense of old fashioned taste?

Is this taste for the gaudy and ridiculous indicative of these guys dating tacky birds/slappers or is this a good example - to coin a phrase - of the GFs "'avin a laff" (insert Nth Country/Gervaise accent) at the expense of the BF?
post #3139 of 53390
I think the more worrying trend for Gens Y and Z is the propensity for the males to wear women's clothes. I mean, if you like slim jeans that doesn't mean everyone has to see your nutsack.
post #3140 of 53390
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post
I think the more worrying trend for Gens Y and Z is the propensity for the males to wear women's clothes. I mean, if you like slim jeans that doesn't mean everyone has to see your nutsack.

I suppose that the positive is that this will hamper their ability to reproduce?
post #3141 of 53390
Quote:
Originally Posted by fxh View Post
LPPS - I get asked a lot to help dress young relatives and friends kids - the hardest part of having to help 18 - 20 year olds get a wardrobe or "quick suit" is dealing with the whole waist issue.

Most young guys wear their pants way down too low and are used to having a hanging crutch.

Even if they are interested in a suit this is a stumbling point. If you insist on getting the pants fitted for them around waist height - I don't mean high rise like us old guys but a bit above hips - then the minute they dress by themselves they will push the pants down on their hips and have a crutch like a babies poo nappy and pooled cuffs on the shoe.

Great post! I remember getting my first suit when I was back in my first year of uni (uni balls, ah good times). I went on down to my local Peter Jackson with my mum and got measured and fitted up. The first thing the sales assistant told me was to "pull your pants up to above your hip", and started on about how "kids wear their pants too low". I remember thinking how it felt totally unnatural and uncomfortable. Of course now days, I don't give it a second thought.

Oh, and as for the suit, the least said about my Pierre Cardin four button black shadow stripe suit, the better - same goes for the dark grey and burgundy tie I wore with it.
post #3142 of 53390
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Originally Posted by CHECKstar View Post
Oh, and as for the suit, the least said about my Pierre Cardin four button black shadow stripe suit, the better – same goes for the dark grey and burgundy tie I wore with it.
My first suit was a black Pierre Cardin from (the then) Grace Bros. Your bringing up PC brings back some memories, CHECKstar. Pretty awful suit, really, but it fit reasonably well all things considered.
post #3143 of 53390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post
I think the more worrying trend for Gens Y and Z is the propensity for the males to wear women's clothes. I mean, if you like slim jeans that doesn't mean everyone has to see your nutsack.

To be fair I can remember people in the 70s wearing jeans that were, um, snug...

post #3144 of 53390
a few weeks of 35+ days has me thinking of winter

anyone know of any places where i can order corduroy trousers from? looking for something slim fitting and well made (i.e. nothing which is available in Australia)
post #3145 of 53390
RTW, I have no idea, but if you're after MTM corduroy trousers, try Barrington Ayre, Herb.
post #3146 of 53390
Where is a good place pick up a black belt for under 100? or am I better off spending 150?
post #3147 of 53390
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Originally Posted by elvish View Post
Where is a good place pick up a black belt for under 100? or am I better off spending 150?

http://www.ilshimtkdmelb.com/
post #3148 of 53390
I'd rather just popping down to Queen Vic Market and grab one there for $10.
post #3149 of 53390
I use G&A Favazzo in Trinty Arcade.

Jacket Sleeve Alteration: $30
Jacket Length Alteration: $55
Hem Pants: $15
Slim down a polo : $20 (removed material from both sides)

When i went back the old italian women was hand stitching my jacket back up. Good service/ quality tailoring.

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Originally Posted by lychee View Post
took my herringbone suit that i bought off there forums to looksmart alterations in enex100. i needed the trousers taken up and the sleeves taken up. i was a little worried as to who would be able to do the sleeve work (due to the working button holes), but someone here had some shoulder work done by looksmart and it seemed it worked out well, and herringbone in perth said they used looksmart alterations as well.

dropped it off on wednesday lunch time, and was told it would be ready friday lunch. got a call on friday at lunch saying that it wouldnt be ready till the afternoon. fair enough. rocked up after work in the afternoon and he was still working on it (thanks for the call...). the lovely girl offered to drop it off after work the next day.

anyways got suit back and the work seems alright, chris (the main tailor there) had to take some length off at the top of the sleeve, and a little bit on the cuff. good enough. no epic stuff ups. there were a few loose threads etc. cost me $230 to get the sleeves taken up and to have the pants done.
post #3150 of 53390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tano View Post
I use G&A Favazzo in Trinty Arcade.

Jacket Sleeve Alteration: $30
Jacket Length Alteration: $55
Hem Pants: $15
Slim down a polo : $20 (removed material from both sides)

When i went back the old italian women was hand stitching my jacket back up. Good service/ quality tailoring.

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