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post #29926 of 53847
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Originally Posted by fox81 View Post


bespoke maybe, but the RTW is made in england, but not london

 

Actually that would make a lot of sense. I remember the conversation going along the lines of "well if you wanted bespoke, the ladies upstairs would cut a specific pattern for you, rather than just [a tailor] adjusting from our existing shirts". But those same alluring ladies weren't mentioned when talking about RTW. 

post #29927 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

All depends on how the 348 fits you. The last is longer and narrower than other C&J lasts so bear that in mind. It's an attractive shoe but you might have to 1/2 size up if you have widish feet (or look at the Dartmouth instead).

Thanks POP, I really like the look of the 348... Read somewhere it's the most Italian style last of CJ...
post #29928 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Oli2012 View Post

PoP, what would you consider the must own books of menswear?
Indulge me to artfully avoid directly answering your question.

Books on menswear are useful in the same way textbooks on flying are useful to pilots. Handy references, and they can help you pass theory exams, but if you dress (or fly) by the book, you're gonna crash and burn.

I have a few menswear books, most most of which were given to me by friends or relatives who know my interest (or, more accurately, vanity). The suggestions of titles already made in the thread are a good start and I would encourage anyone to read as much as they can (magazines as well as books), but at the end of the day you have to pick out looks and garments which suit your style, not just because "so-and-so's book says one must wear this".
post #29929 of 53847
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Originally Posted by PapaRubbery View Post

Actually that would make a lot of sense. I remember the conversation going along the lines of "well if you wanted bespoke, the ladies upstairs would cut a specific pattern for you, rather than just [a tailor] adjusting from our existing shirts". But those same alluring ladies weren't mentioned when talking about RTW. 

I've heard the same about H&K and some other Jermyn St makers that do actually still make shirts in the UK. Whilst they still do bespoke shirts in London, their RTW shirts are made in other parts of the UK.
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Originally Posted by Dusty Brogues View Post

Thanks POP, I really like the look of the 348... Read somewhere it's the most Italian style last of CJ...

I like the shape of the 348 last, but it is fairly narrow and long and it doesn't have such a high instep so it won't fit everyone. Herringbone stock C&J so if you come up to Brisbane you can try on a pair (albeit oxfords, not bluchers) at the Herringbone store in the Queens Plaza shopping centre in the city.

If you like a fairly chiselled toebox shape, similar to the 348, but on a more generous last, you could try the Rain last by Carmina.

Carmina make a nice, two-eyelet derby on the Rain last that looks very elegant - here's an example from the Skoaktiebolaget website.
post #29930 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post


Indulge me to artfully avoid directly answering your question.

Books on menswear are useful in the same way textbooks on flying are useful to pilots. Handy references, and they can help you pass theory exams, but if you dress (or fly) by the book, you're gonna crash and burn.

I have a few menswear books, most most of which were given to me by friends or relatives who know my interest (or, more accurately, vanity). The suggestions of titles already made in the thread are a good start and I would encourage anyone to read as much as they can (magazines as well as books), but at the end of the day you have to pick out looks and garments which suit your style, not just because "so-and-so's book says one must wear this".

 

Bloody indirect bastard!

 

Thanks mate. I find though that a lot of the classic books (eg Flusser) give you the 'building blocks' to play with - without them things are essentially lacking and you end up like my friends wearing black suits and purple shirts. 

post #29931 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Oli2012 View Post

Thanks mate. I find though that a lot of the classic books (eg Flusser) give you the 'building blocks' to play with - without them things are essentially lacking and you end up like my friends wearing black suits and purple shirts. 

Agreed. You don't have to take Roetzel, Flusser and others as gospel, but simply use their books (especially the pictures) as a guide to help you to build a wardrobe and to decide what to wear.

There are, of course, a lot of pictures on the internet nowadays thanks to Tumblr etc but it can sometimes be difficult to sort the gold from the dross. Furthermore, I think that it's better to start off rather cautiously and conservatively before branching out, rather than suddenly going all #menswear.

This also, hopefully, will help you to avoid ending up with a wardrobe full off stuff that you never wear and when you open it and look inside, you wonder what the heck you were thinking when you bought some of the stuff!
post #29932 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

was his camo painted ferrari outside?

Yes, but he had his specially commissioned Fox canopy set up over it - camo colorway, of course.
post #29933 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

Agreed. You don't have to take Roetzel, Flusser and others as gospel, but simply use their books (especially the pictures) as a guide to help you to build a wardrobe and to decide what to wear.
There are, of course, a lot of pictures on the internet nowadays thanks to Tumblr etc but it can sometimes be difficult to sort the gold from the dross. Furthermore, I think that it's better to start off rather cautiously and conservatively before branching out, rather than suddenly going all #menswear.
This also, hopefully, will help you to avoid ending up with a wardrobe full off stuff that you never wear and when you open it and look inside, you wonder what the heck you were thinking when you bought some of the stuff!

The big danger is that you end up with 22 year old boys dressing like old men from the 50s.

If you aren't "ending up with a wardrobe full off stuff that you never wear and when you open it and look inside, you wonder what the heck you were thinking when you bought some of the stuff!" post 35 yo or 40 yo then you either haven't been trying or haven't been having much fun.
post #29934 of 53847
On the train now and there's a lot of adverts for BMV Bespoke - $650 for:

1 suit
1 blazer
1 trouser
2 shirts

It's the secret of looking like a million dollar man.

FOR ONLY $650 :-)
post #29935 of 53847
So how did everyone pull up after last night's event at Ludlows? What a handsome, friendly and above all well-dressed gathering it was. It was a rainy night; did anyone impulse buy an umbrella after one too many wines?
post #29936 of 53847
Pulled up very well. Resisted the umbrellas but walked away with one of Jason's ace ties.

Was a real pleasure to meet some of the Melbourne crew.

Top quality blokes.
post #29937 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

I've heard the same about H&K and some other Jermyn St makers that do actually still make shirts in the UK. Whilst they still do bespoke shirts in London, their RTW shirts are made in other parts of the UK.
I like the shape of the 348 last, but it is fairly narrow and long and it doesn't have such a high instep so it won't fit everyone. Herringbone stock C&J so if you come up to Brisbane you can try on a pair (albeit oxfords, not bluchers) at the Herringbone store in the Queens Plaza shopping centre in the city.

If you like a fairly chiselled toebox shape, similar to the 348, but on a more generous last, you could try the Rain last by Carmina.

Carmina make a nice, two-eyelet derby on the Rain last that looks very elegant - here's an example from the Skoaktiebolaget website.

Thanks JM, I will check them out at HB, I did however try a pair of CJ there, however forgot to make a note of the last.
post #29938 of 53847
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

On the train now and there's a lot of adverts for BMV Bespoke - $650 for:

1 suit
1 blazer
1 trouser
2 shirts

It's the secret of looking like a million dollar man.

FOR ONLY $650 :-)

 

Maybe they should be renamed YMMV Bespoke.

post #29939 of 53847
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

Pulled up very well. Resisted the umbrellas but walked away with one of Jason's ace ties.

Was a real pleasure to meet some of the Melbourne crew.

Top quality blokes.

Didn't realise you were there TE! Probably didn't get around to chatting to you or if I did forgot to ask if you were on SF :-)
post #29940 of 53847
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Originally Posted by lennier View Post

Didn't realise you were there TE! Probably didn't get around to chatting to you or if I did forgot to ask if you were on SF :-)

Was funny having to introduce yourself as two people.

Next time, name tags!
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