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Someone took some heavy shots a few posts up...haha

Seriously though, like I said, menswear game in Australia ain't cheap. Plus you're reasoning with someone who tried to low ball the price of a second hand jacket. #shotsfired
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Originally Posted by eightace View Post

Sydneysiders,

 

Zambelli warehouse final sale tomorrow.

 

1 Sydneham Road

Marrickville

 

9am - 5pm

 

Their shirts are excellent value IMHO.

 

the stock they have left is pretty  :/

post #28593 of 54985
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

1) Here in Oz, $1500 - $1600 for a well fitting, well-made, hand-finished suit is very reasonable. Ask anyone who's played in this arena.
 

 

Reasonable indeed. Try bespoke pricing. $5.5k -$7.5k, easily. You gotta pay to play.

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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

you always crack me up

im happy to do the shooting this time - someone pass me the gun...

 

The reason Australian retail pricing is higher is because 1) GST +10%, 2) inbound freight +5%  3) Customs +10% on clothing - so already you are looking at 27% (they stack) premium.

 

Also a small retailer wont have the volume or purchasing power or a large retailer in the UK

 

Either way - you are passing alot of judgement Michael...

Okay, so there is a 27% non-negotiable premium for buying in Australia. Now how much extra is put on top for profit? Another 50-100% depending on the market?

 

I am not complaining. *Insert serious stare*.

 

Henry Bucks doesn't run bare bone margins, neither does PJ?

post #28595 of 54985
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

P Johnson does the same thing as Coles, Woolies and most other retailers.

Make sure your basic stuff is reasonably priced (milk, bread, eggs, suits) and up your margins on the impulse buys (bottles of coke and other cold drinks at the supermarket, bathers, ties etc. at PJs).

 

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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post


Agreed, and well said. I think that P. Johnson charges too much for most of their accessories, but that their core products are well-priced.

Even their newer, Italian-made MTO line is well-priced, relatively speaking. My tailor investigated the possibility of getting La Vera Sartoria Napolitana to do MTO jackets and suits for Deer Style a couple of years back and he figured out that he'd have to charge around the same price as P.Johnson is now charging for it to be viable.

With regard to accessories, even though I think that P.Johnson charges too much, he's really just in line with Australian pricing, as there are a lot of other menswear boutiques out there who are charging sky high prices for ties, pocket squares, driving mocs and so on.

Thanks guys, that answers what I was asking :).

 

So his mark up is signficantly higher, as a % on the accessories and through the online shop, rather than the actual suits. My long post was intended to be a question!

 

Cheers all around.

 

Oh, one last question, who else is voting Greens at the next election?

 

I get pulled up for everything.


Edited by JimmyHoffa - 3/22/13 at 4:46am
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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

Okay, so there is a 27% non-negotiable premium for buying in Australia. Now how much extra is put on top for profit? Another 50-100% depending on the market?

 

I am not complaining. *Insert serious stare*.

 

Henry Bucks doesn't run bare bone margins, neither does PJ?

 

Having lived in the UK for a few years, I call bullshit on the GST excuse that has been made. The UK has 20% VAT (to our 10% GST), ridiculous duties and customs compared to Aus (pay duties on everything over 30 quid as a consumer) and we still pay far more in Aus. To be fair, UK corporate tax rate is currently 20% (down from 28% since that bounder David Cameron came in) to our 30%, but that's nothing that can't be offset...

 

What we have in Australia across large swathes of the retail and consumer tech sector is just profit-gouging as you've surmised above. Essentially it's what they call geographical 'price discrimination' in Economics 101 - hence the arbitrage opportunities you've noticed on PJ pocket squares shipped from the UK. 

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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

Okay, so there is a 27% non-negotiable premium for buying in Australia. Now how much extra is put on top for profit? Another 50-100% depending on the market?

 

 

 

I think you may find it's more like 300% at his standard pricing

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Originally Posted by Nicholas D C View Post

Having lived in the UK for a few years, I call bullshit on the GST excuse that has been made. The UK has 20% VAT (to our 10% GST), ridiculous duties and customs compared to Aus (pay duties on everything over 30 quid as a consumer) and we still pay far more in Aus. To be fair, UK corporate tax rate is currently 20% (down from 28% since that bounder David Cameron came in) to our 30%, but that's nothing that can't be offset...

What we have in Australia across large swathes of the retail and consumer tech sector is just profit-gouging as you've surmised above. Essentially it's what they call geographical 'price discrimination' in Economics 101 - hence the arbitrage opportunities you've noticed on PJ pocket squares shipped from the UK. 
My comment was purely purchased in Australia vs online which is vat exempt ex UK.
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

I think you may find it's more like 300% at his standard pricing

Michael Sy its time you share that photo of your elite suit
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Did any forum members attend the shoe polishing event at Double Monk yesterday? Apployon and iSurg were there and one or two of the other guys looked like they might be members here but I didn't ask.

 

If you didn't make it, you missed a really great night with some VERY good whiskey!

 

Edit:

 

 

 

Pics now up at:

http://gezzaseyes.tumblr.com/post/46023023723/rubinacci-crockett-and-jones-john-lobb

http://gezzaseyes.tumblr.com/post/46023023723/rubinacci-crockett-and-jones-john-lobb

http://gezzaseyes.tumblr.com/post/46022824831/tea-and-toothpaste

http://gezzaseyes.tumblr.com/post/46022663689/shoe-polishing-at-double-monk-as-part-of-meet-the

http://gezzaseyes.tumblr.com/post/46022186429/the-double-monk-shoe-polishing-event-as-part-of


Edited by Gerry Nelson - 3/22/13 at 4:10pm
post #28600 of 54985
Although I'm not sure why people would still be all inquisitive and borderline 'moaning' about prices of commissions at PJs seeing as Suit Shop is opening up and providing a (80%?) similar product at 1/2 the price of a PJ commission.
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What do you all think of 3 piece suits? Will they come 'back' into the popular domain in the same way everything else #menswear has?
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

What do you all think of 3 piece suits? Will they come 'back' into the popular domain in the same way everything else #menswear has?

Too backwards for a scene that's just started introducing the swag of using baby blankets as opposed to scarves a la Pitti.
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

What do you all think of 3 piece suits? Will they come 'back' into the popular domain in the same way everything else #menswear has?

Look a tad out of place in Sydney given the climate
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

What do you all think of 3 piece suits? Will they come 'back' into the popular domain in the same way everything else #menswear has?

I'm.. Getting one made in May. Well it's for a wedding so all the groomsmen are in 3-piece suits. Guess it doesn't really count, but I'm going to give the look a shot when I'm back here.
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

Look a tad out of place in Sydney given the climate
I don't know, I think in winter a 3-piece suit in a medium weight fabric is a more practical business outfit than a heavy coat or a 2-piece heavy flannel suit. And you can still wear it as a 2-pc if you wish.

As far as the "look" goes I like them personally but they're probably not for a junior associate, unless it's your wedding day or your dad owns the company.
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