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Originally Posted by lachyzee 

"Raw" denim is something I don't understand (unless you are in a profession that allows you to wear jeans every day).

6-18 months of wearing the same pair of pants? For those of us in suit and tie jobs, how many weekends does that translate to? Sleeping in jeans? Blue dye everywhere? Not sure I'll ever be bothered to go through that. I find it a bit gross, really. No matter what the bacteria count says ^^.

Sea baths, freezing denim, washing rituals that are more complex than voodoo, I'm with you, it makes no sense.

Seems like a hell of a lot of effort to go to for, well, clothes that are meant to be beater clothes.

I love seeing some fine denim, much of it raw, in the same way I love seeking Kris Van Assche sneakers. At the end of the way, though, if I'm going to trash the clothes thoroughly to pieces, I don't want to be spending top dollar for artisan quality, seems silly.

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Originally Posted by LonerMatt 

 

Sea baths, freezing denim, washing rituals that are more complex than voodoo, I'm with you, it makes no sense.

 

Seems like a hell of a lot of effort to go to for, well, clothes that are meant to be beater clothes.

 

I love seeing some fine denim, much of it raw, in the same way I love seeking Kris Van Assche sneakers. At the end of the way, though, if I'm going to trash the clothes thoroughly to pieces, I don't want to be spending top dollar for artisan quality, seems silly.

I used to freeze mine every 3 weeks when I was in the tropics. Cold soak every 6 months. That's my limit.

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Originally Posted by California Dreamer 


Hi Grant, welcome.

The IT presales area has become a bit strange. Firms like IBM now go tie-less, and I find basic suit and tie is becoming unusual enough to be remarked upon when sales guys do wear it.

Much depends on the market you're selling into. The health providers I worked with were all biz caz (at best) and many asked me why I dressed up for meetings with them.

That said, I'm not sure that sports coat and odd trousers would be considered OK if selling into banks etc. Suit without tie would not be remarked on, but the former might. You would know best what your market expects.

If you do go for a sports coat, the place I would start is Azzarro, where I've bought quality sports coats for 200-400. Might as well try OTR to see what you can get before paying for MTM. Ken Barrell can also be a pleasant surprise; I found a solid navy Italian SC there for $200 - half canvas with surgeon's sleeves.

Good luck, and hopefully you can help us with our rearguard action against the IT industry's decline in dress standards.

Thanks CD, appreciate the advice.

It is a difficult one, because generally we support Account Managers who are meant to be "suit and tie" but often aren't. It's a bit of a faux pas to out dress someone who looks after the business side of the accounts when you're meant to be technical, but often they are dressed quite relaxed.

In terms of my clients, I'm responsible for the channel arm so actually spend the majority of my time in with integrators (think Dimension Data, Data #3, Datacom etc) rather than customers directly. Based on that, I'm in a great position to influence dress standards in IT :) .

Cheers,

Grant

So what non-raw denim do u guys recommend?

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Originally Posted by thebrownman 

Are you pansies scared of a little dirt?

I am with TBM on this one.

Everyone that is having a whinge about denim, take some advice from Chopper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

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Originally Posted by Michael Sy 

I am with TBM on this one.

 

Everyone that is having a whinge about denim, take some advice from Chopper:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

It's difficult sometimes, but don't be a complete ass. Churlish behaviour is completely unacceptable and inexcusable.

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Originally Posted by AriGold 


Thing is, they don't fall apart like a suit. They are tough as hell. And seriously, who actually beats up their jeans? Most people who buy this high end denim are city dwellers, not miners or loggers.

My non-raw denim isn't exactly fragile. I don't know how other people live, and I'm not a logger or a miner, but ALL of my jeans get used pretty hard, harder than non-jeans.

anyone got Naked & Famous "weird guy"? Probably not the right thread but interested in Aussie feedback

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Originally Posted by Naka 

Try them on at Harrold's, the Skinny Guy fit me better but I am a stick, so YMMV.

Cool - ill pop in and use the showroom at lunchtime haha

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Originally Posted by jaypee 


Sure do.. worn them for 2 years on medium rotation but blew the crotch out, need to send them down to right hand distribution for repair

Got a fit-pic? Ive been told they are comfy through the thigh and taper through the leg

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Originally Posted by Romp 

anyone got Naked & Famous "weird guy"? Probably not the right thread but interested in Aussie feedback

N & F are innovative, but construction/build quality is very questionable. Crotch rip, hardware blowout, etc. Probably best to wait for Harrold's 50% off sales. I have tried them before, a bit meh to me. Plus Harrold's does not stock the stuff I was interested in eg the Elephant denim, and the red dye.