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Originally Posted by thebosschamp View Post

During my suit research I notice a few companies who ask for self measurement, indochino, instichu etc. to me that seems a little strange, what if I f#ck it up? I'm also keen to chat to my tailor! Should these be avoided or am I being too cynical? (forgive me if this has already been discussed I'm new to this game. New job, new wardrobe. Previous job was fairly casual attire). Hmmm I'm confused.

I meet way too many guys who want their first proper suit and go down the MTM route. IMO it just isn't worth the effort, money or risk for any guy's first few suits unless you have a very hard to fit body. It's only worth venturing into PJ and maybe Rob's type thing once you know what you want after a year or two of wearing suits everyday, and only if you truly have a passion for men's clothing. Online MTM is just a mugs game, anyone who gets this right on the first time has fluked it. Just go to MJ Bale/Herringbone/Azzaro etc, find something that fits and alter it.

post #27932 of 52585
A wonderful summer's day in Sydney, ideal for loafing around.

post #27933 of 52585
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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I meet way too many guys who want their first proper suit and go down the MTM route. IMO it just isn't worth the effort, money or risk for any guy's first few suits unless you have a very hard to fit body. It's only worth venturing into PJ and maybe Rob's type thing once you know what you want after a year or two of wearing suits everyday, and only if you truly have a passion for men's clothing. Online MTM is just a mugs game, anyone who gets this right on the first time has fluked it. Just go to MJ Bale/Herringbone/Azzaro etc, find something that fits and alter it.

This very good advice and if you get a corker fitting suit just have it copied.
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Originally Posted by Oli2012 View Post

Sorry to bombard you guys with questions but collar stays - worth using or are they a bit too artifice? (what would patrick johnson do?) biggrin.gif

Shirts need collar styas if they are formal business shirts. If you wonder why look at all the pollies who fail to wear them as they probably don't know what they are for.
post #27934 of 52585
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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I meet way too many guys who want their first proper suit and go down the MTM route. IMO it just isn't worth the effort, money or risk for any guy's first few suits unless you have a very hard to fit body. It's only worth venturing into PJ and maybe Rob's type thing once you know what you want after a year or two of wearing suits everyday, and only if you truly have a passion for men's clothing. Online MTM is just a mugs game, anyone who gets this right on the first time has fluked it. Just go to MJ Bale/Herringbone/Azzaro etc, find something that fits and alter it.

Absolutely - this is something that I say a lot, too.

When I read threads here and on places like Whirlpool where people ask about getting a suit and they're immediately told "get an online MTM suit", I feel like doing a facepalm.
post #27935 of 52585
Hey guys; good news! I finally have all the basics of a shoe wardrobe covered: 2x black CBD shoes, a pair of semi casual brogues, a chukka, a suede Oxford and don't really have anything which I absolutely need at the moment. But now I'm waiting of CK do get his second order of shoes; apparently there will be a size 6! Beyond that I've been trying not to buy clothing for this past month and am going to do this for as long as possible. I'm saving for a pair of bespoke shoes as I have never really had the pleasure of wearing shoes that fit me properly 'well'; I am wondering if any of you have gone down this route and have any tips for me smile.gif

Thanks in advance!
post #27936 of 52585
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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I meet way too many guys who want their first proper suit and go down the MTM route. IMO it just isn't worth the effort, money or risk for any guy's first few suits unless you have a very hard to fit body. It's only worth venturing into PJ and maybe Rob's type thing once you know what you want after a year or two of wearing suits everyday, and only if you truly have a passion for men's clothing. Online MTM is just a mugs game, anyone who gets this right on the first time has fluked it. Just go to MJ Bale/Herringbone/Azzaro etc, find something that fits and alter it.


Agreed.  I'm considering a MTM suit in the near future just because I already have a few excellent OTR suits and because of that I know how tough it is to find the right suit and the right measurements for me - I know what I'm after and I'm willing to pay a premium to get it versus spending hours upon hours browsing racks of suits and online ads hoping someone is selling it OTR.

 

A lot of online MTM suits, like Indochino, are sold not on that basis but on a price basis, the idea that for the same price or cheaper they are of superior quality to a common fused department store brand (debatable, from what I've seen) and a better fit (still often debatable unless you get lucky- more likely to get a good fit by trying on a half dozen OTR suits and having the best one altered than you are from the first try at online MTM, I would think, and much quicker too).  I would definitely recommend going to Azzaro, or to MJ Bale on sale, over doing that, especially for a first suit before you really have a good idea of how suits fit you and what looks good on you.

post #27937 of 52585
Gents,

On the debate of suits - I totally agree. For a bloke like myself who doesn't need suit up all the time (apart from weddings, interviews or formal occasions at work) My Rhodes and Beckett suit has done great service to me, fits great and gets plenty of comments from friends. I don't care if its fully lined or lapels in a particular style. I just want to look decent. Going with a mate next week to check out mj bales range might even spilt the 2 suis for 1k with a mate.

FYI - Finally got around to giving tm lewin (fully fitted) shirts a try on at myers, I actually think they fit better than any MTM shirt I've had made or my herringbone/R&B shirts. Btw Rhodes and Beckett have a new shirt cut called tailored cut its slimmer than their standard slim shirt

btw - Nabil and Michael was awesome meeting you guys fri night, it's refreshing to meet people who are on the same page. Def keen for another drink, this time mike no driving smile.gif
post #27938 of 52585
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Originally Posted by g-banger View Post
btw - Nabil and Michael was awesome meeting you guys fri night, it's refreshing to meet people who are on the same page. Def keen for another drink, this time mike no driving smile.gif

 

Bummer, missed out on this meet - was working late Fri. night. Any plans (venue/times) for the next one? Bavarian @ O'Connell St is my suggestion for venue ;)

post #27939 of 52585
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Originally Posted by Nicholas D C View Post

Bummer, missed out on this meet - was working late Fri. night. Any plans (venue/times) for the next one? Bavarian @ O'Connell St is my suggestion for venue wink.gif

Sounds good to me! Early to mid April?
post #27940 of 52585
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

They sound perfect for my son, who is out on film locations all the time. Can you hold a charcoal pair for me, and I'll pick them up at the trunk show.

No worries at all.
post #27941 of 52585

Today I went into Gerry's Shoe Closest (TM).

post #27942 of 52585
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Originally Posted by LonerMatt View Post

Today I went into Gerry's Shoe Closest (TM).

 

He hasn't made it out yet - good thing I have internet access in there.

post #27943 of 52585
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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I meet way too many guys who want their first proper suit and go down the MTM route. IMO it just isn't worth the effort, money or risk for any guy's first few suits unless you have a very hard to fit body. It's only worth venturing into PJ and maybe Rob's type thing once you know what you want after a year or two of wearing suits everyday, and only if you truly have a passion for men's clothing. Online MTM is just a mugs game, anyone who gets this right on the first time has fluked it. Just go to MJ Bale/Herringbone/Azzaro etc, find something that fits and alter it.

I agree about online MTM, to me a proper tailor must assess not only the need and application for the suit, measurements and the desired silhouette, but also the stance of the individual, almost impossible without being there in person.  For a younger man, it's also probably better to go with a more modern cut (slim, flat front trousers) OTR, as most young guys can't pull off the more classic look (aka Saville Row).  But a lot of people can't fit an off the rack suit properly.  I'm about 5' 7" and 72 kg, and have thick thighs from playing soccer.  I've found trousers that fit well and sports coat that fit well, but never both at once.  Hence, my first suit was Bespoke/MTM.

post #27944 of 52585
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Originally Posted by g-banger View Post


Sounds good to me! Early to mid April?

 

Yeah sounds like a good time-frame. cheers.gif

post #27945 of 52585
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

 

He hasn't made it out yet - good thing I have internet access in there.

 

There are a lot of boxes in here.

 

Bring water, pls.

 

 


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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I meet way too many guys who want their first proper suit and go down the MTM route. IMO it just isn't worth the effort, money or risk for any guy's first few suits unless you have a very hard to fit body. It's only worth venturing into PJ and maybe Rob's type thing once you know what you want after a year or two of wearing suits everyday, and only if you truly have a passion for men's clothing. Online MTM is just a mugs game, anyone who gets this right on the first time has fluked it. Just go to MJ Bale/Herringbone/Azzaro etc, find something that fits and alter it.

 

 

 

I'll not be wearing a suit every day for a long time, but I'd like a suit that fits well. Considering the price for MTM in store is, in many ways, not that much more than OTR in store (and also takes out the risk associated with an alterations tailor). It's a good fit. What's an MJ suit $550? Plus alterations? $650? $700? For $50 more I can have a set of measurements and level of choice that far surpasses that. I can also visit someone that is knowledgeable and experienced.

 

To expound, it's also no secret that many generation Y's/millenibugs prefer having a pretty strict direction of choice and options and prefer things 'just so', which factors into a young man's choice too.

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