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post #25816 of 56003
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

What's a "CD"?

Maybe step out of the room while us old folk talk.
post #25817 of 56003
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

I'm a 48 Euro reg.

My missus is as bad as me. Part of the problem is coming from working class backgrounds; we are genetically conditioned to think 'Oh, no. I paid good money for that and there's still some wear in it'. Tragic!

My old man grew up during the Great Depression. His decoration style is "buried alive" and he hasn't bought a car since 1974 (used of course).

As for your clothes, if they are in good nick etc. you should try to sell them off here or elsewhere; I've found the lure of making a buck quickly overcomes any sentimentality for most objects.
post #25818 of 56003
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

Anyway, moving on...my wardrobe needs to go on a diet. I have a real problem getting rid of stuff. Not in the reality TV hoarder category, but still hard to say goodbye to gear that is still wearable. What are the rules? If you haven't worn it for a year or two chuck it?

Inventory assessment yearly- trigger to event= urgent need for more wardrobe space.

 

Rule for clothing- "hey, I forgot all about this."

Rule for books- none. Throwing out books = sacrilege.  Working on change to this rule

Rule for CDs- huh??? does not compute. Reboot.

post #25819 of 56003

I generally give my stuff away if I havent worn it in 2-3 years.

 

Usually to friends/family first otherwise i donate to vinnies.

post #25820 of 56003
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

I'm a 48 Euro reg.

My missus is as bad as me. Part of the problem is coming from working class backgrounds; we are genetically conditioned to think 'Oh, no. I paid good money for that and there's still some wear in it'. Tragic!

God both my parents and mother in law grew up in the the great depression so as they got older rather they were constantly repairing towels tea towels anything using the same logic. However I have shaken off my proletarian roots and gladly give things away rather than they sit there gathering dust.
post #25821 of 56003
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

Honestly, I am pretty sure you can find a more engaging and civil way to express yourself than the efforts contributed so far.

First of all I wasn't responding to you. Second, the person I was responding to was not being exactly engaging and civil when declaring an entire branch of nutritional science was "bullshit".

My apologies if my stating hard facts upsets you, but there are plenty of men my age who wish we'd listened to the medical advice when we were younger, not to the faddish cliches.
post #25822 of 56003
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Originally Posted by boff View Post


I'm guessing you are young and skinny. Good for you.

Calories are bullshit. Aren't they measured by setting fire to the food and seeing by how much a given amount of water is heated by? Not exactly a good proxy for the human body.

Once most people get past a certain age (for me it happened at 35) they tend to find that sugar and carbs play havoc with fat deposition. This is due to the way sugar (all carbs are really just different forms of sugar) effects your insulin levels, which in turn affect the way your body lays down fat.

I agree that the time of day is irrelevant, but avoiding simple carbs and thus keeping insulin levels low and stable will make most people lose weight without needing to count calories. I for one can eat an obscene amount of meat and vegetables, avoid carbs and still drop a few kilos.


I'll try and keep this short so we can go back to talking about clothes but this is a pet peev of mine. 

As someone on enough anti depressants to kill a small elephant I emphasise with your position. However, your issue isn't so much carbs as again calories and lifestyle. 

Once your over the hill your body changes in the following ways:
1) Your calorie intake decreases. Even in slight amounts (100-200cals) you can put on up to 5-10kg a year. 
2) Your hormone levels drop like the panties of girls at the parties you're no longer invited to. Having physically matured, found a mate and living the 9-5 your test levels drop profoundly. Unlike the days where you could go boozing and still have a 6 pack your body is comfortable keeping bodyfat levels of 20% - even amongst very active and competitive cyclists, runners, tennis players etc you can still witness this phenomenon. 

In order to combat it you must (1) lower your calories and (2) stimulate hormone production. The most efficient way of doing this is through weight training, which stimulates greater systematic and hormonal responses than aerobic exercise. Cortisol production from stress is also a big deal, especially with poor sleep and 10-12 hour days. For some, it might even become necessary to run a base test cycle. These changes would be enough to get you back down to 15% with the odd beer or snickers bar on weekends.

Lifestyle changes are significant - previously you would have found yourself engaging in sports and cheaping out on food when money was sparse. As anyone with kids will tell you, staying active over 30 is hard and comfort foods are plentiful - the last of the starcastle biscuits your daughters leave on the coffee table after breakfast or the stale lamingtons with the note 'eat today!' in the common room can easily see your calories go overboard. 

TL:DR - there are better, smarter ways to tackle weight than carb restriction, which will see you feeling like shit and pulling out your remaining hairs in frustration. 

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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post


Sorry, but I have to call complete BS on that. Any diabetic who took notice of you on that would be doing themselves enormous harm. Since you're not an expert in this area, maybe you should defer to the people who are.
 
Diabetes as a medical condition presents a totally different kettle of fish than the weight loss parameters provide. 
 
post #25823 of 56003
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

What's a "CD"?

Long before itunes there were these things call records made from vinyl which came in 7, 10 and 12 inch (whats an inch?) that you played on a phonograph then someone decided that the record was obsolete and they invented CD's that way they conned us into getting rid of our records and buying CD's which (debatable) sound better and look modern.

I wonder how my life would have been if I had not grown up with the Jetsons.
post #25824 of 56003
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

Sorry, but I have to call complete BS on that. Any diabetic who took notice of you on that would be doing themselves enormous harm. Since you're not an expert in this area, maybe you should defer to the people who are.

Not sure if serious. Of course if you are a diabetic you need to watch what you eat, but completing avoiding a certain type of food is or only eating at certain times is just, plan, wrong. Not from an opinion point of view, but from a scientific point of view.

tl;dr - If you don't have diabetes and want to lose weight. Calories in < calories out.
post #25825 of 56003
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post


Long before itunes there were these things call records made from vinyl which came in 7, 10 and 12 inch (whats an inch?) that you played on a phonograph then someone decided that the record was obsolete and they invented CD's that way they conned us into getting rid of our records and buying CD's which (debatable) sound better and look modern.

I wonder how my life would have been if I had not grown up with the Jetsons.

I usually respect your posts GF, but this time you have really done it.  There is really no excuse.  Really no excuse for omitting at least an honorary mention to the generation grown up on cassettes.  Yes, cassettes. Some of us even went to the trouble of getting chrome and metal, copyright be damned.

post #25826 of 56003

It sound to me like there are a couple of different approaches being discussed on the topic of diet here - please stop me if I'm wrong:

 

CD, if I remember correctly you are a little older and your interest is in keeping yourself physically healthy, which is a bit more complex given your diabetes and potentially other health issues (I hope I'm not sounding rude!). Obviously your dietary requirements are going to be a lot different to Prof BB who if I recall correctly (like me) does a considerable amount of resistance training, which demands high protein intake and the culture is often subject to absolutes such as the 40/40/20 fomula - not to say that this is wrong.

 

FWIW I lost my first 15kg through reducing my intake and adding exercise on that, and the next 5kg at the gym.

post #25827 of 56003
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post


First of all I wasn't responding to you. Second, the person I was responding to was not being exactly engaging and civil when declaring an entire branch of nutritional science was "bullshit".

My apologies if my stating hard facts upsets you, but there are plenty of men my age who wish we'd listened to the medical advice when we were younger, not to the faddish cliches.

I am not quite sure that listening to medical advice and listening to faddish cliches are mutually exclusive choices, but I get your message and appreciate it.

 

The Prof has his own unique way of expression, I agree.  No need to fight fire with fire.  Sometimes water works very well.fing02[1].gif

post #25828 of 56003

Giving to the less fortunate can be extremely difficult. It was very hard for me to give up my viscose Tarocash trousers to St. Vincent De Paul.

 

Ernesto, if you haven't worn it in 2 years, give it to someone who needs it.

 

My current predicament is that, I applied for Centrelink benefits, but seriously under estimated my current circumstances when applying (turns out there are many definitions of 'poverty'). I got a whole heap of cash from them, went and spent it, now Centrelink is asking for it back. I wonder if I went and got my Tarocash pants back from Vinnies, whether Centrelink would take those as part of the repayment. What to do?

post #25829 of 56003
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post


vinyl which came in 7, 10 and 12 inch (whats an inch?)

There's a whole generation of kids - yes kids! - growing up actively using inches, feet & yards in my chosen sport (Lawn Bowls) - anything monosyllabic tends to get a lot more use than the more cumbersome met-re or heaven forbid cen-ti-met-re.

post #25830 of 56003
Good afternoon MS

As for exercise I do about 99.9% less than Jas of Henry Carter fame.

I have a bench and free weights at home, which I use 1-2 a week. Run twice a week, swim and l kayak weather permitting. Looking to get into biking as my knees have copped a flogging over the years and unlike your goodself it was not spent bending over : )

Petepan - sounds like an awesome venture all the best with the black cap toe acquisition!
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