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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

 

all my MTM business shirts are thomas mason fabric and I dont see much reason to go higher quality. They are great daily wearers for me

 

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Originally Posted by nabilmust View Post

 

Yes.

 

'pure cotton' and '100% pure cotton' is a material difference, and can go to cost, as well. (At the risk of sounding banal, or snooty, but that's not my intention, I promise.)

 

Some labels will say Pure Cotton -- that is a reference that the cotton in the shirt is pure cotton, but it could still be a blend of pure cotton and any number of other materials. A '100% pure cotton' shirt means, well, that.

 

Also, Thomas Mason has a couple of lines of cotton - their standard line, Silverline, Goldline, a 'bespoke line' for P Johnson, and cotton they use for J Crew shirts.The grade of the cotton within the same mill factor into the cost, as well. Each shirt (made from Thomas Mason cotton) by different makers costs different.

 

Before we start splitting hairs: if I had to choose between the shirts, I'd let the workmanship and finish be the deciding factors. And as a tie-breaker, I'd go with whichever cotton felt nicer, personally, against my skin.

 

Thanks for the informative post Nabilmust - appreciate it. Also good to know your daily wearers are TM fabrics Romp, that is very reassuring. I think I'll try out a Cottonwork Thomas Mason in a shade of blue w. button cuff and see how I go with that, and then decide whether I want to pull the trigger on any more from there. Anyone know if Cottonwork has promos or discount codes? I have a 5% off coupon I got with my fabric samples, but was hoping someone here might know of a better code ;). 

 

Aside from that, to those who have been buying cord pants (think Prof B Bear had some Landsend purchases recently), what shirts would you pair with 'em? I'm thinking OCBDs in (don't slay me please) white or blue, with a sweater over the top (e.g. one of Bears previously linked fair isles, or a cable variety). Or perhaps a chambray pinkish/red or blue sort of shirt might work as well? I think that would that be a good fall/winter weekend sort of look. I'm also a bit confused as to what sort of shoes to pair with cords. 

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Originally Posted by aussiejake View Post


Any guide to colouring of pocket squares?

Have a look in WAYWRN thread for upr_crust or even at AAAC. He provides good ensemble photos of how and what he wears a pocket square with.
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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

It must be easier to get into university than ever before, and the trades are feeling that. 15 years ago, a builder/plumber/sparky wouldn't have treated you the way they do today. Trades aren't popular at the moment, getting a degree is.

The simple reason its easier to get into university these days is because the landscape was changed during the Howard years. I was working at one then and with funding cuts, the first Asian crisis amongst other issues had a major impact and changed the way universities operated. Most universities had to expand their courses to justify their existence and take more students with fewer financial resources to fund them. student numbers went up and with it the quality of teaching declined.

And at the same time apprenticeship numbers decreased due to a number of factors. This combined with keeping kids in school to year 12 and loss of traditional jobs which boys could walk into at the end of year 10. I left in at the end of year 10 and walked into British Leylands for three months then left and then got another job. Trades are still popular but there are not as many opportunities out there.
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Originally Posted by burnso View Post
 

 

Also picked up my (bexley) shoe trees from deingesicht today (thanks again) and they are great.

$16.50 ea bargain, great shape and cedar.

 

 

Originally Posted by Manuhiri View Post

 

 

Ditto. Super pleased with them. Thanks to deingesicht for organising.

As in the words of homer simpson - I live to give smile.gif

post #25356 of 54044
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Originally Posted by Nicholas D C View Post

 

 

Thanks for the informative post Nabilmust - appreciate it. Also good to know your daily wearers are TM fabrics Romp, that is very reassuring. I think I'll try out a Cottonwork Thomas Mason in a shade of blue w. button cuff and see how I go with that, and then decide whether I want to pull the trigger on any more from there. Anyone know if Cottonwork has promos or discount codes? I have a 5% off coupon I got with my fabric samples, but was hoping someone here might know of a better code ;). 

 

Aside from that, to those who have been buying cord pants (think Prof B Bear had some Landsend purchases recently), what shirts would you pair with 'em? I'm thinking OCBDs in (don't slay me please) white or blue, with a sweater over the top (e.g. one of Bears previously linked fair isles, or a cable variety). Or perhaps a chambray pinkish/red or blue sort of shirt might work as well? I think that would that be a good fall/winter weekend sort of look. I'm also a bit confused as to what sort of shoes to pair with cords. 

depends on your cords and colour

 

a softer shirt typically works best i.e. softer fabric and minimal interlining/structure in the collar/cuffs

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Odd question but, out of interest, how do you all get your pants cut, ie fit and slimness in the leg, for

Suit pants

v

Odd trousers and slacks (trousers that you'd press)

v

Non-pressed casual chinos

For me 1 and 2 are about the same, with 3 being a bit slimmer down the leg. I imagine most go for that sort of look. Anyone go the same for all three?
post #25358 of 54044
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

Odd question but, out of interest, how do you all get your pants cut, ie fit and slimness in the leg, for

Suit pants

v

Odd trousers and slacks (trousers that you'd press)

v

Non-pressed casual chinos

For me 1 and 2 are about the same, with 3 being a bit slimmer down the leg. I imagine most go for that sort of look. Anyone go the same for all three?

That's a very personal question, I don't think anyone will have the same setup. I usually get the tapering done from the knee downwards.
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Originally Posted by Nicholas D C View Post

 

Thanks for the informative post Nabilmust - appreciate it. Also good to know your daily wearers are TM fabrics Romp, that is very reassuring. I think I'll try out a Cottonwork Thomas Mason in a shade of blue w. button cuff and see how I go with that, and then decide whether I want to pull the trigger on any more from there. 

 

Besides the wit and banter, that's what we're all here for. Glad to be of help.

 

Rob is right, TM Fabrics are really great value. My AC shirts are a mix of TM's Silverline and standard line, and I've got a PJ shirt in their 'PJ-TM' fabric (I still don't know what that means, hence the quotation marks) too.

 

Good call on the buying strategy - because a specific line/mill, even if slightly more pricey, doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically be 'better' for you, or how you enjoy wearing the shirt. 

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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

You're an ABC man. That says it all. How are the Doc Martin repeats treating you?

 

I wish I could comment on other apsects of your post, but it'd just highlight my ignorance in the area.

 

What I have found growing up in Sydney, is that there is a hell of a lot of 'children of immigrants'. Many of them, under the heavy influence of their parents, are opting to head into: law, medicine, financial services, marketing, journalism etc. Where I have grown up, the idea of leaving in year 10 and pursuing any kind of trade was not pushed at all, infact, it was almost silently frowned upon. This is my observation in the last 10 years. I look around at University, my course in particular, and there are a hell of a lot of people that shouldn't be there. It must be easier to get into university than ever before, and the trades are feeling that. 15 years ago, a builder/plumber/sparky wouldn't have treated you the way they do today. Trades aren't popular at the moment, getting a degree is.

Very well said MS, very well said.  My original aspiration was something to do with chemistry, possibly headed towards chemical engineering.  One of my parent exclaimed: "Chemistry? What?!? You wish to be a CHEMIST??" Sigh....

 

It looks like nowadays every one is going for the "paper" route rather than the "skills" route.  And as usual, demand and supply will eventually prevail.

 

I would like to see the day when university is truly only an option, not the default choice, of high school leavers.

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post


The simple reason its easier to get into university these days is because the landscape was changed during the Howard years. I was working at one then and with funding cuts, the first Asian crisis amongst other issues had a major impact and changed the way universities operated. Most universities had to expand their courses to justify their existence and take more students with fewer financial resources to fund them. student numbers went up and with it the quality of teaching declined.

And at the same time apprenticeship numbers decreased due to a number of factors. This combined with keeping kids in school to year 12 and loss of traditional jobs which boys could walk into at the end of year 10. I left in at the end of year 10 and walked into British Leylands for three months then left and then got another job. Trades are still popular but there are not as many opportunities out there.

Universities are pressured into being profit-centres, and this led to lower entry requirements, and a shift towards promotion of courses with low capital requirements eg law instead of science/engineering. 

 

I still cannot understand how such perverse incentives worked.  Surely, a university's main objective cannot be profit making.  Or am I just getting old and not "with it" any longer?

post #25362 of 54044
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Originally Posted by streetminimal View Post

That's a very personal question, I don't think anyone will have the same setup. I usually get the tapering done from the knee downwards.

Sorry I didn't express it very well, but what I mean to ask was not how are they cut exactly, but just whether they are the same or different (and, if different, then in what way).

I.e. for me Suit pants are cut almost identically to my odd trousers, but completely casual chinos are cut a little slimmer in the leg.
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Has anyone got a source for horn suit buttons other than HST http://www.hst.com.sg/acatalog/Horn_Buttons_for_jacket.html#a446 ?

Need to replace the buttons on two of recently purchased my MJ Bale blazers. The default buttons are such a dark brown that they pretty much look black, which looks just OK on navy, but pretty terrible on light blue. Odd choice by the designer IMO. I'm going to try and put something lighter on.
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

Universities are pressured into being profit-centres, and this led to lower entry requirements, and a shift towards promotion of courses with low capital requirements eg law instead of science/engineering. 

I still cannot understand how such perverse incentives worked.  Surely, a university's main objective cannot be profit making.  Or am I just getting old and not "with it" any longer?


Sadly the embrace of neo liberal economics, market driven outcomes and user pays mentality transformed students into consumers.

And the 'not with it club' is taking members.
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Re trouser width....Most of my suit trousers are about the same width - not slim and not full. In between.

I have never had odd trousers made up, nor (with one exception) tapered. They are what they are. In terms of preferences...I'm not of a build which makes sense for me to follow the current fashion for very slim trousers.

I think there is something to be said for the taking into account context and fabric in this. I have a few pairs of flannel trousers and am happy for them to be a fuller cut than regulr, especially the heavier and fuzzier (non-worsted - is there a more correct term?) weaves. These need cuffs, a proper break and a fairly wide leg for the whole Douglas Fairbanks Jnr effect. They have to drape from the waistband and swoosh a bit when you walk.

Having said that, my one exception mentioned earlier was a pair of very heavy, herringbone grey tweed slacks which were a typical RL flight of fancy. They were so wide they completely covered my shoe. Whilst I got the cultural refernce alright, they were just unwearable in practice. So I had them tapered - still full cut, but less cartoony.
Edited by Selvaggio - 1/30/13 at 4:30pm
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