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post #25141 of 57959
^
Already did, chuckles.

He says 'Hi' and 'Behave yourself or I'll sic Cruiser on you'.

And FFS, just pay him for the bloody CD already. Really now, if you didn't keep splurging on 'good whiskey'...
post #25142 of 57959
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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I have extremely strong preferences in various areas: coffee, clothing, music, food and tv just to name a few. I'll defend them to a point, but if you really drill me I'm humble enough to admit that I'm really just a little organism on a relatively small rock in space looking for shit to get me through the day. Is this "half-assed" or just reality? It's fun having views and it's more fun when they're based on research or personal knowledge or whatever, but don't be so serious about it as to believe there are actually objective truths in the human created notions of clothing, music, art and entertainment.

"The alternative is ignorance."
Really? You can't imagine any mid point between believing there are objective rules, knowing all the rules and following them, or not believing in rules, not knowing the them and disregarding them?

Ignore whiskey boy, Red.

Boy's got a bug up his ass the size of Tasmania. Always has.

Actually, just wax on about the greatness of Asian tailors if you wish to see our friend's head implode. Might be worth a laugh. satisfied.gif
post #25143 of 57959
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

If the conversation is getting too intellectual for you, feel free to sit it out and visit our special needs affiliate, AAAC.

I'm happy as long as we are not talking about sneakers, thongs, board shorts, t shirts or athletic-wear. This is a thread in a forum dedicated to "Classic Menswear" ie suits, sport coats, dress shirts, oxford shoes etc. If you want to discuss anything else, eg denim and sneakers, you should be talking about it in the relevant forum (Streetwear and Denim). Don't get me wrong, I probably have the largest collection of sneakers in this thread but casual/street wear is not the topic of discussion.

Classic menswear - it has been around a long time. If you want to go against the "rules", "norms" or "conventions" that have been developed over time, go for it. Obviously going against something, you are going to stand out.

If I could, I would like to remind people that classic menswear is not contemporary fashion. Sure, it may from time to time be affected by trends, but ideally, only those trends that contribute positively to the timeless value of classic menswear are retained (made into a "norm", "convention" etc).

This timelessness however does not stop classic menswear from being adapted or varied in some ways. For example, cuban heels were once a trend within classic menswear though they are interpreted by most to not form part of any classic menswear convention that has stuck, other than being a characteristic of typical 70's mens clothing. Saying that, there is always room for interpretation - some may have found that the cuban heel might be a timeless or lifelong look.
Edited by jobro - 1/28/13 at 11:49am
post #25144 of 57959
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

If the conversation is getting too intellectual for you, feel free to sit it out and visit our special needs affiliate, AAAC.

Shots fired.

Can we get back to the regular Australian Members Newsfeed please?

I want to speculate more about how much a suit from P Johnson costs, or if I can get some free Polish with my shoes from Double Monk, or whether a flapped pocket on the Caruso I just bought from the Salvation Army can be converted to a barchetta patch flap jetted pocket that Phat Guido wears, or bettter yet, my favourite topic of all, who does the best alterations in Sydney to the highest quality, with rock bottom prices, and will let me sleep with their 21-year old daughter to thank me for my business.

PIss off apropos, you are ruining the best Thread on StyFo. cheers.gif
post #25145 of 57959
 
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

Actually, just wax on about the greatness of Asian tailors if you wish to see our friend's head implode. Might be worth a laugh. satisfied.gif

What? What is wrong with Asian tailoring? Small fingers are an asset :).

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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

If the conversation is getting too intellectual for you, feel free to sit it out and visit our special needs affiliate, AAAC.

This is true guys, you can skim over anything you don't want to read. That is the beauty of an internet forum for discussion, if you don't want to participate, you don't have to, and you won't offend anyone. Interjecting when someone else is talking is just....rude. That's a rule!

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Originally Posted by apropos View Post


Nah, you're wrong.

You are justifying, or attempting to justify, a pretty half arsed approach to menswear, or heck, any passion/hobby/interest/whatever.

There are idiot kids in bars mixing good whiskies with coke.

Apropos, we all to a lesser extent, get the basic rules of dressing: no thongs with suits. You just run a tighter ship than we do. It isn't because we don't care, or we are taking a half arsed approach, it is because you care 1.5x and take a arse and a half approach, compared to our 1x and single arse approach.

 

I try to mix the best gin with the best tonic water. Does that make me an idiot?

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Originally Posted by streetminimal View Post

Well the update on my shirt is that I moved it 1cm out but there's still a bit of tightness in it. It was less than <0.5 inch.
So uhhh...looks like it'll have to go.

Did you wash it in really hot water and then dry it in a really hot dryer? Then try to move the button? I assume you have quite a few other O&J shirts? Are you going to size up for the next shirts?

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

I'm happy as long as we are not talking about sneakers, thongs, board shorts, t shirts or athletic-wear. This is a thread in a forum dedicated to "Classic Menswear" ie suits, sport coats, dress shirts, oxford shoes etc. If you want to discuss anything else, eg denim and sneakers, you should be talking about it in the relevant forum (Streetwear and Denim). Don't get me wrong, I probably have the largest collection of sneakers in this thread but casual/street wear is not the topic of discussion.

Classic menswear - it has been around a long time. If you want to go against the "rules", "norms" or "conventions" that have been developed over time, go for it. Obviously going against something, you are going to stand out.

If I could, I would like to remind people that classic menswear is not contemporary fashion. Sure, it may from time to time be affected by trends, but ideally, only those trends that contribute positively to the timeless value of classic menswear are retained (made into a "norm", "convention" etc).

This timelessness however does not stop classic menswear from being adapted or varied in some ways. For example, cuban heels were once a trend within classic menswear though they are interpreted by most to not form part of any classic menswear convention that has stuck, other than being a characteristic of typical 70's mens clothing. Saying that, there is always room for interpretation - some may have found that the cuban heel might be a timeless or lifelong look. 

 

So Jobro, where can I get some great sneakers? Or do I really have to go and start a new thread in S&D?

post #25146 of 57959

Fantastic, but what about "should I pay $xx for shipping from the US?" Questions? 
Originally Posted by quar View Post


Shots fired.

Can we get back to the regular Australian Members Newsfeed please?

I want to speculate more about how much a suit from P Johnson costs, or if I can get some free Polish with my shoes from Double Monk, or whether a flapped pocket on the Caruso I just bought from the Salvation Army can be converted to a barchetta patch flap jetted pocket that Phat Guido wears, or bettter yet, my favourite topic of all, who does the best alterations in Sydney to the highest quality, with rock bottom prices, and will let me sleep with their 21-year old daughter to thank me for my business.

PIss off apropos, you are ruining the best Thread on StyFo. cheers.gif

 

 
post #25147 of 57959
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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

So Jobro, where can I get some great sneakers? Or do I really have to go and start a new thread in S&D?
Of course you don't have to start a new thread in S&D; there are plenty there already.
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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

I try to mix the best gin with the best tonic water. Does that make me an idiot?
Far from it. Comparing apples with oranges leans towards idiocy though.
Edited by jobro - 1/28/13 at 2:17pm
post #25148 of 57959
3 day weekend and everyone (well a couple of people) is so pissed off. People are flooded in up north and the country is burning down south, surely there is bigger things to worry about than where people drink whisky and what it's mixed with and what they pay for it.

FWIW, I drink mine neat, but I don't look down on anyone if they want to drink theirs with ice or even god forbid coke. I'm just not that invested in what others want to drink or eat.

So lets try posting some pics hey -


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Suit: MJ Bale
Shirt: Henry Carter Light Blue micro check
Tie: Henry Carter navy twill 7 fold
Shoes: Carmina
Ps: Random from Japan
(Note: Just realised button wasn't done up properly).
post #25149 of 57959
Seems like the Straya Thread got heated over the long weekend...
post #25150 of 57959

If you call the last few pages heated........you need to travel the world a bit more. Go to Egypt or Syria.

 

Perhaps 'too deep for me' is a better phrase. Or, 'baby, it's not you, it's me' :).

post #25151 of 57959
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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

Seems like the Straya Thread got heated over the long weekend...

"Strayan members thread: love it or leave it."

post #25152 of 57959

Speaking of Australia, what is everyone's verdict on the hottest 100?

 

Love it. Very 'poppy'.

post #25153 of 57959
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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

Speaking of Australia, what is everyone's verdict on the hottest 100?

Love it. Very 'poppy'.

They played 100 tracks and 'Thrift Shop' was only played once making it better than any other offering. Putting it at #1 though, really?
post #25154 of 57959
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Originally Posted by jobro View Post

I'm happy as long as we are not talking about sneakers, thongs, board shorts, t shirts or athletic-wear. This is a thread in a forum dedicated to "Classic Menswear" ie suits, sport coats, dress shirts, oxford shoes etc. If you want to discuss anything else, eg denim and sneakers, you should be talking about it in the relevant forum (Streetwear and Denim). Don't get me wrong, I probably have the largest collection of sneakers in this thread but casual/street wear is not the topic of discussion.

Classic menswear - it has been around a long time. If you want to go against the "rules", "norms" or "conventions" that have been developed over time, go for it. Obviously going against something, you are going to stand out.

If I could, I would like to remind people that classic menswear is not contemporary fashion. Sure, it may from time to time be affected by trends, but ideally, only those trends that contribute positively to the timeless value of classic menswear are retained (made into a "norm", "convention" etc).

This timelessness however does not stop classic menswear from being adapted or varied in some ways. For example, cuban heels were once a trend within classic menswear though they are interpreted by most to not form part of any classic menswear convention that has stuck, other than being a characteristic of typical 70's mens clothing. Saying that, there is always room for interpretation - some may have found that the cuban heel might be a timeless or lifelong look.

And this is how one presents a reasoned point of view without being a pompous asshat..

The thing is... I agree with Jobro. I'm the last person on earth to take the stand that a logical, consistent rule-set does not exist in Classic Menswear. Unfortunately, the only way to learn and thn internalize these rules is to ask lots of stupid questions, read voraciously, mimic that which you know is trustworthy and finally, keep on experimenting.

Asking, reading, mimicking and experimenting; that's largely how I learnt the language of classic men's style.

Take the white shirt kerfuffle for example: I'm with Foo on this one. Tried white poplin with a wool tie once upon a time and the effect was unpleasantly jarring. I had my suspicions, but after reading Vox's coherence Essay, I realized why it didn't work. Digested the lesson - white shirts are highly citified while wool ties are primarily rustic - and added the new knowledge to my decision filters. Never did it again.

The rules exist. And it's good that they do.

What I object to is this: the premise that wearing nice clothes or knowing how you should imbibe alcohol somehow makes you better than some one who does neither; that when someone asks a question or posts something, someone else has the right to call him an idiot and get away without any consequence whatsoever.

It' s not the rules that I despise, that I pour absolute contempt on; it's rude behaviour, the kind that would likely get you stomped in real life.

That is what I object to.

That said, it's good to remember that we're taking what is, in my opinion, largely an expression of visual art and trying to make it a predictable, measurable science. This can be a mistake. Sometimes, as in all forms of artistic expression, either one has, or can develop 'the eye', or they don't.

P.S. Get me more pissed off than I already am and I'll just have to type faster and more angrily. So there.
Edited by ColdEyedPugilist - 1/28/13 at 3:26pm
post #25155 of 57959

Can anyone recommend a good iron and steamer? I've been using sunbeam irons which seem to do the job but they keep breaking down on me.

I've also been using the steam feature on my iron to get rid of creases in jackets / ties so far, but now that I'm buying more expensive clothing I figure I should probably get a proper steamer? Thanks in advance!

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