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I have extremely strong preferences in various areas: coffee, clothing, music, food and tv just to name a few. I'll defend them to a point, but if you really drill me I'm humble enough to admit that I'm really just a little organism on a relatively small rock in space looking for shit to get me through the day. Is this "half-assed" or just reality? It's fun having views and it's more fun when they're based on research or personal knowledge or whatever, but don't be so serious about it as to believe there are actually objective truths in the human created notions of clothing, music, art and entertainment.
"The alternative is ignorance."
Really? You can't imagine any mid point between believing there are objective rules, knowing all the rules and following them, or not believing in rules, not knowing the them and disregarding them?
Ignore whiskey boy, Red.
Boy's got a bug up his ass the size of Tasmania. Always has.
Actually, just wax on about the greatness of Asian tailors if you wish to see our friend's head implode. Might be worth a laugh.

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I'm happy as long as we are not talking about sneakers, thongs, board shorts, t shirts or athletic-wear. This is a thread in a forum dedicated to "Classic Menswear" ie suits, sport coats, dress shirts, oxford shoes etc. If you want to discuss anything else, eg denim and sneakers, you should be talking about it in the relevant forum (Streetwear and Denim). Don't get me wrong, I probably have the largest collection of sneakers in this thread but casual/street wear is not the topic of discussion.
Classic menswear - it has been around a long time. If you want to go against the "rules", "norms" or "conventions" that have been developed over time, go for it. Obviously going against something, you are going to stand out.
If I could, I would like to remind people that classic menswear is not contemporary fashion. Sure, it may from time to time be affected by trends, but ideally, only those trends that contribute positively to the timeless value of classic menswear are retained (made into a "norm", "convention" etc).
This timelessness however does not stop classic menswear from being adapted or varied in some ways. For example, cuban heels were once a trend within classic menswear though they are interpreted by most to not form part of any classic menswear convention that has stuck, other than being a characteristic of typical 70's mens clothing. Saying that, there is always room for interpretation - some may have found that the cuban heel might be a timeless or lifelong look.
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Shots fired.
Can we get back to the regular Australian Members Newsfeed please?
I want to speculate more about how much a suit from P Johnson costs, or if I can get some free Polish with my shoes from Double Monk, or whether a flapped pocket on the Caruso I just bought from the Salvation Army can be converted to a barchetta patch flap jetted pocket that Phat Guido wears, or bettter yet, my favourite topic of all, who does the best alterations in Sydney to the highest quality, with rock bottom prices, and will let me sleep with their 21-year old daughter to thank me for my business.
PIss off apropos, you are ruining the best Thread on StyFo.

What? What is wrong with Asian tailoring? Small fingers are an asset :).
This is true guys, you can skim over anything you don't want to read. That is the beauty of an internet forum for discussion, if you don't want to participate, you don't have to, and you won't offend anyone. Interjecting when someone else is talking is just....rude. That's a rule!
Apropos, we all to a lesser extent, get the basic rules of dressing: no thongs with suits. You just run a tighter ship than we do. It isn't because we don't care, or we are taking a half arsed approach, it is because you care 1.5x and take a arse and a half approach, compared to our 1x and single arse approach.
I try to mix the best gin with the best tonic water. Does that make me an idiot?
Did you wash it in really hot water and then dry it in a really hot dryer? Then try to move the button? I assume you have quite a few other O&J shirts? Are you going to size up for the next shirts?
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I'm happy as long as we are not talking about sneakers, thongs, board shorts, t shirts or athletic-wear. This is a thread in a forum dedicated to "Classic Menswear" ie suits, sport coats, dress shirts, oxford shoes etc. If you want to discuss anything else, eg denim and sneakers, you should be talking about it in the relevant forum (Streetwear and Denim). Don't get me wrong, I probably have the largest collection of sneakers in this thread but casual/street wear is not the topic of discussion.
Classic menswear - it has been around a long time. If you want to go against the "rules", "norms" or "conventions" that have been developed over time, go for it. Obviously going against something, you are going to stand out.
If I could, I would like to remind people that classic menswear is not contemporary fashion. Sure, it may from time to time be affected by trends, but ideally, only those trends that contribute positively to the timeless value of classic menswear are retained (made into a "norm", "convention" etc).
This timelessness however does not stop classic menswear from being adapted or varied in some ways. For example, cuban heels were once a trend within classic menswear though they are interpreted by most to not form part of any classic menswear convention that has stuck, other than being a characteristic of typical 70's mens clothing. Saying that, there is always room for interpretation - some may have found that the cuban heel might be a timeless or lifelong look.
So Jobro, where can I get some great sneakers? Or do I really have to go and start a new thread in S&D?
Fantastic, but what about "should I pay $xx for shipping from the US?" Questions?

Shots fired.
Can we get back to the regular Australian Members Newsfeed please?
I want to speculate more about how much a suit from P Johnson costs, or if I can get some free Polish with my shoes from Double Monk, or whether a flapped pocket on the Caruso I just bought from the Salvation Army can be converted to a barchetta patch flap jetted pocket that Phat Guido wears, or bettter yet, my favourite topic of all, who does the best alterations in Sydney to the highest quality, with rock bottom prices, and will let me sleep with their 21-year old daughter to thank me for my business.
PIss off apropos, you are ruining the best Thread on StyFo.

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FWIW, I drink mine neat, but I don't look down on anyone if they want to drink theirs with ice or even god forbid coke. I'm just not that invested in what others want to drink or eat.
So lets try posting some pics hey -
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I'm happy as long as we are not talking about sneakers, thongs, board shorts, t shirts or athletic-wear. This is a thread in a forum dedicated to "Classic Menswear" ie suits, sport coats, dress shirts, oxford shoes etc. If you want to discuss anything else, eg denim and sneakers, you should be talking about it in the relevant forum (Streetwear and Denim). Don't get me wrong, I probably have the largest collection of sneakers in this thread but casual/street wear is not the topic of discussion.
Classic menswear - it has been around a long time. If you want to go against the "rules", "norms" or "conventions" that have been developed over time, go for it. Obviously going against something, you are going to stand out.
If I could, I would like to remind people that classic menswear is not contemporary fashion. Sure, it may from time to time be affected by trends, but ideally, only those trends that contribute positively to the timeless value of classic menswear are retained (made into a "norm", "convention" etc).
This timelessness however does not stop classic menswear from being adapted or varied in some ways. For example, cuban heels were once a trend within classic menswear though they are interpreted by most to not form part of any classic menswear convention that has stuck, other than being a characteristic of typical 70's mens clothing. Saying that, there is always room for interpretation - some may have found that the cuban heel might be a timeless or lifelong look.
And this is how one presents a reasoned point of view without being a pompous asshat..
The thing is... I agree with Jobro. I'm the last person on earth to take the stand that a logical, consistent rule-set does not exist in Classic Menswear. Unfortunately, the only way to learn and thn internalize these rules is to ask lots of stupid questions, read voraciously, mimic that which you know is trustworthy and finally, keep on experimenting.
Asking, reading, mimicking and experimenting; that's largely how I learnt the language of classic men's style.
Take the white shirt kerfuffle for example: I'm with Foo on this one. Tried white poplin with a wool tie once upon a time and the effect was unpleasantly jarring. I had my suspicions, but after reading Vox's coherence Essay, I realized why it didn't work. Digested the lesson - white shirts are highly citified while wool ties are primarily rustic - and added the new knowledge to my decision filters. Never did it again.
The rules exist. And it's good that they do.
What I object to is this: the premise that wearing nice clothes or knowing how you should imbibe alcohol somehow makes you better than some one who does neither; that when someone asks a question or posts something, someone else has the right to call him an idiot and get away without any consequence whatsoever.
It' s not the rules that I despise, that I pour absolute contempt on; it's rude behaviour, the kind that would likely get you stomped in real life.
That is what I object to.
That said, it's good to remember that we're taking what is, in my opinion, largely an expression of visual art and trying to make it a predictable, measurable science. This can be a mistake. Sometimes, as in all forms of artistic expression, either one has, or can develop 'the eye', or they don't.
P.S. Get me more pissed off than I already am and I'll just have to type faster and more angrily. So there.
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