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yeah, not super thrilled at how expensive everything is going to be....I'll be living as cheaply as possible.

 

Studying at the University of Oslo and staying in student accommodation, hope I can survive ;)

 

Thanks for the op-shop recommendations, hoping to find some odd jackets, or at least a blazer I can pinch the buttons off.
 

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Originally Posted by smeggett View Post

FXH can ignore this>
Am looking at a Breitling Transocean Chorno 1461 for my re-entry into watch wearing, but a look through Monards has opened up more options that I almost care to consider - liking the Ulysse Nardin Marine Chronoghaphs and also checked out the IWC Portugese 3714 (at watches of Switzerland - but reading the forums it seems that the 3714 is prone to extra servicing due to the modifications to the ETA movement which has checked my enthusiasm somewhat).

Please don't consider a 45mm "dress watch" that is a recased ETA for your re-entry into the world of horology...

And please, whatever you do, don't buy a watch in Australia.
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I've been buyimg decants in batches from Luckyscent and Surrender to Chance. Shipping is about $6 and takes about 2 weeks. I also bought some minis and carded samples from Fragrancenet when I bought the Rochas - got a nice array of Creeds that way. I'm told Fragrancex is also good if you don't mind delays - they have Chergui right now for $92 with a free shipping code.

My first introduction to Chergui was in Singapore. The shop assistant sprayed it on my wrist and then said, "I want to try something a bit .. different!" She'd been flirting with me a while before then and she pulled out the Bois Vanille and spayed it on top of the Chergui. She told me to come back in an hour, but instead I went to see The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Four women that night told me I was the best smelling man, ever. I saw the shop assistant again, sans Chergui x Bois Vanille. You can make up what happened next smile.gif
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Casio F-91W

If it's good enough for the world's most wanted man...
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Please don't consider a 45mm "dress watch" that is a recased ETA for your re-entry into the world of horology...

And please, whatever you do, don't buy a watch in Australia.

A-Dawg. It isn't 45mm. Much smaller than that.

Prices in Australia can be competitive / comparable on mid-tier watches. 5% difference on something like a 3714 isn't worth the hassle of waiting for an opportunity overseas.
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Originally Posted by quar View Post

A-Dawg. It isn't 45mm. Much smaller than that.

Prices in Australia can be competitive / comparable on mid-tier watches. 5% difference on something like a 3714 isn't worth the hassle of waiting for an opportunity overseas.

Oof - correcto-mundo. My bad and thank you for the correction.

Remain somewhat unconvinced about prices though - was quoted $14,500 AUD for a JLC MG in Syd that is $12,000 USD MSRP and I find it difficult to imagine doing much better with an Australian AD than the 15-30% + 5.5% detax that is routine in, say, Singapore. Is it that much better for cheaper watches??

My default opinion for the mid-tier watches with rebadged ebauches is to go as cheap as possible - i.e. overseas or grey market - because it doesn't take special knowledge to service them so you can go to an independent and parts are readily available.
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post

I've been buyimg decants in batches from Luckyscent and Surrender to Chance. Shipping is about $6 and takes about 2 weeks. I also bought some minis and carded samples from Fragrancenet when I bought the Rochas - got a nice array of Creeds that way. I'm told Fragrancex is also good if you don't mind delays - they have Chergui right now for $92 with a free shipping code.

Is surrender to chance the one where the owners had a bust up and some of the owners created another company? I've never dealt with them. When I bought some CdG through Luckyscent. I gave them a long sample wishlist and asked to expand my horizons and I ended up with about 6 samples when I was expecting two or three tops. I was impressed, but there postage is steep for one bottle. So now I use their wishlist as a sample list.

Rochas sounds awesome. I like citrus scents and need a summer one, woods tend to be heavy, more winter type ones.

So you've not had issues with fragrancenet ? I've read they are a little hit and miss but I might give them a go and see what they're like.

Have you also noticed that places like mecca etc are becoming more competitive with the likes of luckscent etc? My mate bought me a bottle of a Le Labo fragrance in their NY flagship store and it turned out to be only ever so slightly cheaper than Mecca in Sydney's Myer. I was surprised - I'm finding more generally that our shops are waking up that dormant competitive pricing gene. My local bike shop was cheaper than wiggle this week - the service was shockingly bad, painful even.
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You can get 30% off JLC from Monards or WOS. Saw it first hand last Saturday with a MC Hometime.

But totally agree with you. For something common with ETA innards such as a 3714, I'd go grey market.
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Hi, everyone. Just received delivery of my new Filson 257 in otter green. Looking forward to breaking it in! FilsonGuy on B&S is highly recommended. Didn't get hit with any extra tax at all and pretty much shipped within 2 hours of him receiving my order.

 

Cheers for posting! I've been meaning to get one of those, and I hadn't seen the thread on B&S.

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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

My first introduction to Chergui was in Singapore. The shop assistant sprayed it on my wrist and then said, "I want to try something a bit .. different!" She'd been flirting with me a while before then and she pulled out the Bois Vanille and spayed it on top of the Chergui. She told me to come back in an hour, but instead I went to see The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Four women that night told me I was the best smelling man, ever. I saw the shop assistant again, sans Chergui x Bois Vanille. You can make up what happened next smile.gif

Geez, it looks like l have to finally retire "Mum Dry" and get with the program!
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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

My first introduction to Chergui was in Singapore. The shop assistant sprayed it on my wrist and then said, "I want to try something a bit .. different!" She'd been flirting with me a while before then and she pulled out the Bois Vanille and spayed it on top of the Chergui. She told me to come back in an hour, but instead I went to see The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Four women that night told me I was the best smelling man, ever. I saw the shop assistant again, sans Chergui x Bois Vanille. You can make up what happened next smile.gif

This might be why my wife didn't like it ...
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Originally Posted by strumpey View Post

Is surrender to chance the one where the owners had a bust up and some of the owners created another company? I've never dealt with them. When I bought some CdG through Luckyscent. I gave them a long sample wishlist and asked to expand my horizons and I ended up with about 6 samples when I was expecting two or three tops. I was impressed, but there postage is steep for one bottle. So now I use their wishlist as a sample list.

Rochas sounds awesome. I like citrus scents and need a summer one, woods tend to be heavy, more winter type ones.

So you've not had issues with fragrancenet ? I've read they are a little hit and miss but I might give them a go and see what they're like.

Have you also noticed that places like mecca etc are becoming more competitive with the likes of luckscent etc? My mate bought me a bottle of a Le Labo fragrance in their NY flagship store and it turned out to be only ever so slightly cheaper than Mecca in Sydney's Myer. I was surprised - I'm finding more generally that our shops are waking up that dormant competitive pricing gene. My local bike shop was cheaper than wiggle this week - the service was shockingly bad, painful even.

I'm still a little new at this, so I haven't bought a lot. Surrender to Chance was formed by 2 women who used to form part of The Perfumed Garden. Apparently TPG has struggled since the split, while they have kicked on. (Their website is certainly better). They live in separate states and do their own decanting, so your order tends to come in two parts. The folks at Basenotes seem to be giving STC the nod over TPG now.

I've ordered from Luckyscent but yet to take delivery, so can't really comment in full. In a lot of cases their prices seem better than STC, and they give you a standard 0.7 ml of everything, where STC will sometimes only give 0.5 ml. (i understand that what STC calls 1 mo is only 0.7 ml because you can't fill the vial all the way).

Fragrancenet were Ok. I placed a big order with them to take advantage of a 20% discount and mitigate their $25 shipping. Prices are certainly good, and they threw in two complimentary samples. However these were so ordinary (Usher and Because You Are) that they might as well not have bothered.

With Mecca, I found their service at Chadstone outstanding. The lady there gave me a lot of her time and advice, and no pressure. They have a limited range there of only about four makers (SL, Dyptyque, CdG and Byredo IIRC). Prices are competitive with what I could find online, but others dug up deals and vouchers that changed that. For the Chergui: Mecca $158, Strawberrynet $135, frangrancenet $110, fragrancex $92. Given the quality of the service I would be willing to buy there over strawberrynet, and would even think hard about the fragrancenet price. However you can't ignore a $66 price difference for a 50ml bottle, unless there is reason to doubt who you are buying from on the net. All the negative feedback I've seen on fragancex is that they are slow; there is no query over the product.
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Originally Posted by iSurg View Post

3714 has one of the nicest dials. Classic. It's a Valjoux/ETA movement, I believe. At least it's more accurate than the 7 day...

this is what drew me to it initially - a rather elegant dial, not overly complex and not overly plain...
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Please don't consider a 45mm "dress watch" that is a recased ETA for your re-entry into the world of horology...

And please, whatever you do, don't buy a watch in Australia.

Was having a chat to the sales lady in Monards about movements - she suggested the Ulysse Nardin and also Zenith when I mentioned a preference for something in-house to the maker. I'm still researching to get an understanding of the world of mechanical watches - it's something the engineer in me finds incredibly fascinating.

If not Australia, any suggestions? Looking at heading to Honkers over easter for a few days (got a challenge with the missus to sample all 8 schools of chinese cooking over there) so will check out things over there.
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Originally Posted by quar View Post

A-Dawg. It isn't 45mm. Much smaller than that.

Prices in Australia can be competitive / comparable on mid-tier watches. 5% difference on something like a 3714 isn't worth the hassle of waiting for an opportunity overseas.

True - I think it was a 42mm case from memory...
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Oof - correcto-mundo. My bad and thank you for the correction.

Remain somewhat unconvinced about prices though - was quoted $14,500 AUD for a JLC MG in Syd that is $12,000 USD MSRP and I find it difficult to imagine doing much better with an Australian AD than the 15-30% + 5.5% detax that is routine in, say, Singapore. Is it that much better for cheaper watches??

My default opinion for the mid-tier watches with rebadged ebauches is to go as cheap as possible - i.e. overseas or grey market - because it doesn't take special knowledge to service them so you can go to an independent and parts are readily available.

Any thoughts on going for an in-house movement at this price level? Or am I better off taking your suggestion above?
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Originally Posted by quar View Post

You can get 30% off JLC from Monards or WOS. Saw it first hand last Saturday with a MC Hometime.

But totally agree with you. For something common with ETA innards such as a 3714, I'd go grey market.

30%!! Didn't think that would be possible somewhere like Monards (perhaps unless one speaks Cantonese/Mandarin - I actually felt a little bit of an outsider in there smile.gif ) Price negotiation / haggling is something I need some practice in!
Edited by smeggett - 1/12/13 at 4:32pm
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First hand watch with a respectable in house movement at the $7-8,000 price point in a classic (i.e. not crazy trendy) size?

Easy - Zenith or JLC.

The Zenith El Primero range is pretty broad and I'm sure you'll find something up your alley - my pick is the 38mm El Primero with the tricolour dials. Another nice Zenith is the Captain Elite. You could easily pick up a JLC Reverso at that price too - either the base GT models or the TTR 1931, which is swish.

When negotiating a price - be firm but polite. Avoid using the word 'discount', especially in boutiques (as opposed to ADs). Use euphemisms like "price consideration", e.g. "Is this price open to consideration?". Smile a lot while negotiating a price. Eye contact too. Don't look stressed. You want them to know that you are serious about purchasing the watch, yet also not a pushover re: pricing.
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The previous discusison about Melbourne restaurants has given me pause to think, are dress codes a thing of the past or is it due to it being January that the notiion of dress code goes out the window.

I went to Bells at Killcare just after NYE wore pink cotton shirt, navy linen trousers and cap toes, the wife went suitablly attired. The ambience, surrounds, we sat on the terrace and food are great I think it does have at least one hat from the SMH.

However and I know its been hot but the amout of people who rocked up in cargos and thongs amazed me. Is this some new trend in quality dinning I am not aware of?
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