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post #23986 of 31761
1/8/13 at 1:41am
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Land's End blue-and-white striped oxford cloth shirt with button-down collar

OCBDs at this time of year? In Brisbane?!
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post #23987 of 31761
1/8/13 at 1:51am
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Originally Posted by TehBunny View Post

Any impressions of "The Cordial Churchman's" bow ties? Looking for a one to wear with a blue on white candy or hairline striped shirt; any other suggestions under $50 (not including shipping)?

I've got a few. They are not amazing quality, but are fine for the price. I think that their woollen fabrics tie a better looking bow than their cotton or silk fabrics.

Also, have a look on eBay for RL Polo or Brooks Brothers bow ties as there are often some good ones listed in classic patterns or prints that are very affordable.
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post #23988 of 31761
1/8/13 at 2:08am
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Originally Posted by aussiejake View Post

Any other recommendations for ties in the price range of $50-$100? Sam Hober?

This page mentions Hober, Kent Wang, Howard Yount and Panta: http://putthison.com/post/5802225399/the-necktie-series-part-iii-starting-your

 
Louis Vuitton any good?
I really dislike LV... Vanda is worth a look although they are too short for me I need custom lengths. I really like the pjohnson ties but unfortunately not just. The specified price range
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Originally Posted by Dusty Brogues View Post

Romp, Spalla camicia is the look l'm after, lm fairly broad so l thought this look maybe more flattering with the natural taper...

BTW thanks also to Comrade and Upright Man
Forgot if you were after a suit or jacket. Jacket mtm can be had easily at that price. Otherwise wait for winter this year for some cheaper alternatives wink.gif
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I was just having a whinge smile.gif. Something must have been annoying me at the time of reading.

Did anyone else sweat today? Even in the highest quality fabrics, I think at these temperatures the body just wants to sweat.
ill have to say I remained very cool in my new look piana fabric. 3ply but open weave and really lightweight. Still sweated a bit but nowhere as bad as you'd expect in 41degrees!
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post #23989 of 31761
1/8/13 at 2:43am
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Originally Posted by g-banger View Post


wow those meermin's are really nice mate. out of curiosity what colour belt are you wearing with yours?
I'm wearing my AE strands for the first time today to work - fit like a glove icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

Hadn't even though about a belt yet...could be tricky.
 

I just tried them on when the arrived this morning, then straight into swimming trunks and into the pool.....gawd it was uncomfortable today!

Will probably just go with a non-matching brown belt. If I wear them with a suit I'll likely just go braces.

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post #23990 of 31761
1/8/13 at 2:52am
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post


I haven't tried Hober, but by all accounts, the ties are excellent. Bear in mind that they are made-to-order and that it therefore takes a little while to get them.
I'd also add Vanda to the list - I have quite a few Vanda ties and pocket squares and they are excellent. Perhaps not to everyone's tastes, as they are lightly lined and "untipped" (that is, the triangle of fabric at the bottom has no backing fabric - it just has the edges turned in and the seams sewed by hand) but they tie a beautiful knot and sit very nicely.
I have knit ties from Kent Wang and Howard Yount, and both are good. I also have knit ties from locals Henry Carter (run by SF member Charlie's Wardrobe) and High Tied (run by SF member Tobiasj) and both are very good, too. Henry Carter also offers conventional silk ties, as well as knitted ties.
I have some silk ties by Panta and they are very nice. The ones that I have are like Vanda's ties - multiple inner folds of silk, lightly lined in the upper part, with no backing nor lining for the lower part. I don't know if Panta (run by SF member edmorel) still makes their ties like this.
Another place to look is EG Cappelli, which has an online store. They make lovely, typically rather conservative, printed silk ties and I just noticed that the "outlet" section of their store has ties priced from 50 Euros each, which is ridiculously cheap for such ties. I don't know how much they charge for shipping but if you buy a few ties it would bring down the per unit cost, anyway.
Drake's and Marinella also make lovely, classic ties but Drake's ties are now very expensive and (in my opinion) too narrow and Marinella ties are also expensive and not widely available over the internet or in Australia.
No - and for the price that you pay just for the name, you can do far, far better (such as the aforementioned Vanda, Cappelli etc etc).

Terrific post, thanks for that help.

 

I've now narrowed down my first buys to a few Sam Hober, they just sound superb for that price point. High Tied are attractive at that price range too, they may be my go to when I branch out and get some knit ties.

 

Any thoughts on some dirt cheap ties for the first few months of a full time job, before I can afford to get 8-10+ quality ties?

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post #23991 of 31761
1/8/13 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by California Dreamer View Post


In Mildura? Do tell.

 

No, in Melbourne. Visiting some family and friends.

 

Definitely made some mistakes, but I bought 5 things and 4 are definitely winners, 1 was just a bit impulsive (tan crocodile leather belt that's too long).

 

Still at 1/10th the cost of the item new, I'm OK with that mistake being a learning experience.

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post #23992 of 31761
1/8/13 at 2:55am

Just out of interest, does anyone here use safety razors for their shaving regimen? I just ordered a pre-shave oil for the first time (Truefitt & Hill) and am looking forward to seeing if it makes a significant difference to the softness of the stubble. Managed to pick up a couple Kiehls post-shave products (Razor Bump/Facial Cleanser) as well, and also grabbed a Truefitt & Hill aftershave balm. 

 

P.S. Thomas Lyte briefcase shipped today - I'm excited! 

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post #23993 of 31761
1/8/13 at 2:55am
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post


 

Now that's a bit strong - they just aren't my scene.

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post #23994 of 31761
1/8/13 at 3:12am
Cappelli ties are lovely, but pricey.

Drakes ties have great patterns, but the width is too trendy and the price is taking the piss for a trendy tie. MTM upcharge is obscene.

Vanda ties are - all things considered - cheap, and are the dark horse deal. Workmanship easily trumps both Drakes and Cappelli, but patterns are where they fall down.

Sam Hober is fantastic, but nearly every print they have is ugly, all of the wovens outside standard patterns like pindots are ugly, and to complete the trifecta from what are probably books of 100s of prints they somehow managed to pick every single pedestrian and/or ugly Macclesfield or Madder pattern. Every single one. Grenadines more than make up for the prints though.

P Johnson ties are garish, and at taking the piss prices too (along with the pocket squares). Style reflects the owner I guess.

Panta ties are a disappointment - I will say no more. I know this is a opinion murmured by many whose opinion I respect.

Rubinacci ties are Cappelli ties at stupid prices. Rubinacci knits are retarded.

I rate none of the knits available presently anywhere well known on the interwebz highly. None. Drakes have the perfect texture, but are in a I-want-to-punch-your-face trendy width. Lands End have a good width, but texture is ho-hum. Howard Yount, Kent Wang, and local providers have disappointing textures to their knits. Most disappointing and inexplicable are the knits which are cheaply/commonly available with the "fine" texture which makes them look like shiny socks or coarse knit pantyhose - disgusting.
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post #23995 of 31761
1/8/13 at 3:17am
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Originally Posted by aussiejake View Post

I have a couple of questions for you fine Australian SF members.

I'm off to MJ Bale in the oncoming days to buy a couple of suits. I heard a mention of a 2-for-$1400 deal for the high end quality suits, is this still/was it ever going? How's the quality of the 3-for-$150 ties, worth buying? Or should I just check out American Tailors $79 Drakes ties (if there is stock left)?

My most important question is, what should I be looking for in the fit of the suits? I have a quite slim frame, so I'm guessing I'll have to have alterations done, but what should definitely fit (shoulders and length of jacket?) and what can be easily tailored (sleeve and pants length and taper?)?

What are some starter colour ties for a navy and charcoal suit?

Does David Jones stock the Loake 1880 range, or just the standard Loake range?

Also, any recommendations for a decent tailor in Melbourne that will be able to alter my newly acquired suits?

Cheers if you guys can help me out with all, or any, of my queries.

I've recently bought a MJ Bale suit (Japanese made one), a few shirts (3 for $150 deal) and two ties (2 for $100 deal). I have not bought any of their clothes before so I wanted to try them out.
I found the shirts fit well - although I am normally a 38 slim in most other brands, I was comfortably a 37 in theirs. I reckon you can find better ties elsewhere but they had one tie I was specifically looking for and just got another to match the outfits I got really for the sake of it.

The suit was interesting. I agree with the others - chest and shoulders should fit - that's how they fitted me. Now I am not sure what's particularly different with my torso but I got a $630 suit and needed $300 of tailoring. The jacket was about 2 inches too long so I got that adjusted along with the seams, and the sleeves needed adjusting. The waist was perfect but I got the legs tapered slightly for a tad skinnier look. This has been the first time that a jacket has needed to be shortened. So the jury is out at the moment. I'll give it a season and see how it wears and how I feel about the look. I may have just taken the tailoring a little too far, I'm not sure. I don't think I'd go the 2 for 1k deal if I require that much tailoring to the jacket.

Each shop, I understand, has the ability to use their own tailor - I think the Paddo and Westfield Syd stores use the same tailor, but Chifley uses another. I couldn't fault the tailoring but I am no expert.

I found the cloth used for their japanese made suits were more interesting than their stock standard suits hence why I went down that path. I haven't heard of the 2 for $1400 deal but their sale prices are cheaper than that. There were many at $630, so you aren't necessarily required to buy two suits if you don't want to.

Hope this helps.
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post #23996 of 31761
1/8/13 at 3:22am
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Originally Posted by strumpey View Post

Now I am not sure what's particularly different with my torso but I got a $630 suit and needed $300 of tailoring.
Hope this helps.

Wow, that's quite a bit of tailoring. I'm hoping that I find something that fits quite close to my ideal suit.

 

Extremely helpful information, appreciate it mate.

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post #23997 of 31761
1/8/13 at 3:34am

Messaged matt regarding some of the issues I had ordering online. Would be nice to see them do less black suits and more basic silk 8cm ties too, but hey. 

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post #23998 of 31761
1/8/13 at 4:17am
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Originally Posted by LonerMatt View Post

No, in Melbourne. Visiting some family and friends.

Definitely made some mistakes, but I bought 5 things and 4 are definitely winners, 1 was just a bit impulsive (tan crocodile leather belt that's too long).

Still at 1/10th the cost of the item new, I'm OK with that mistake being a learning experience.

It's entirely possible to have belts shortened - could well be worth checking out.
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

I rate none of the knits available presently anywhere well known on the interwebz highly. None. Drakes have the perfect texture, but are in a I-want-to-punch-your-face trendy width. Lands End have a good width, but texture is ho-hum. Howard Yount, Kent Wang, and local providers have disappointing textures to their knits. Most disappointing and inexplicable are the knits which are cheaply/commonly available with the "fine" texture which makes them look like shiny socks or coarse knit pantyhose - disgusting.

With regard to printed silk ties, my favourites are Holliday & Brown (and I think that I got one of my favourite H&B ties from you, if I remember correctly) and Marinella. Unfortunately, I only see H&B in Tokyo, and then only rarely. Marinella are great, but very expensive at full retail and difficult to find at a discount.

With regard to knit ties, my favourites are by a German maker, Ascot. They are not cheap, but they tick all the boxes for me in terms of width, thickness, crunchiness, springiness and general quality and they are an absolute pleasure to wear. Unfortunately, they don't seem to do patterned or dotted knits, instead sticking to plain colours. I've seen them in Japan and you can also get them from Ben Silver in the US.
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post #23999 of 31761
1/8/13 at 4:30am
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Originally Posted by strumpey View Post


The jacket was about 2 inches too long so I got that adjusted along with the seams, and the sleeves needed adjusting. The waist was perfect but I got the legs tapered slightly for a tad skinnier look. This has been the first time that a jacket has needed to be shortened. So the jury is out at the moment.

 

Yep, you are probably a 'short' instead of a regular for your given chest size. This happens to me as well, often. Unfortunately, in Australia, there are very brands that carry anything other than regular in each of the suiting sizes.

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post #24000 of 31761
1/8/13 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by aussiejake View Post

Any thoughts on some dirt cheap ties for the first few months of a full time job, before I can afford to get 8-10+ quality ties?

Henry Carter have some ties on spesh - there are a couple for forty bucks. That's CRAZY PRICES and there is no compromise on the quality.
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