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post #20656 of 55993
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Originally Posted by TehBunny View Post

Sorry guy's but my post got ignored and I'd really like some tips for a watch as I'm not very experienced but my dad has wanted one for a long while.
Thanks smile.gif

Sorry man, I wasn't ignoring your post. I doubt I'm as knowledgeable about wristwatches compared to others in this thread, so I didn't offer any thoughts. Perhaps others were turned off by your joke that you'll go Señor Chang for their assistance biggrin.gif LOL

I own two watches



and



The first one has a different strap to what's shown. Dark blue calf, flat, no stitching, no padding. I recently bought a new strap for it (burgundy lizard from Hirsch). I wore it for 18 minutes. I don't like it. I'm buying the same blue one I had before. If anyone wants the Hirsch burgundy lizard one at a heavily discounted price - get in touch smile.gif
post #20657 of 55993
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Originally Posted by jaypee View Post

New, used, mechanical, quartz, auto, vintage, vintage looking, size, strap, brand, bracelet, location, case size?
One google search, clicking on the first link resulted in this. http://www.coolvintagewatches.com/Watches/Under_300/under_300.htm
Go, read, search, decide..
Away!

I think he said vintage military around WW2... so that necessarily limits his options I think:

Mechanical, vintage, used, military style.

More to the point is what style of military is he after - army, diver's, airman's watch...

Bunny - this something like you had in mind?

om10_big.jpg

EDIT - this link might give you some ideas: http://www.timelyclassics.com/portal/index.php?route=product/category&path=66
post #20658 of 55993
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

Which model did you end up buying?

The Perth.

Thanks for your insight, by the way.
post #20659 of 55993
thebrownman - that casio looks great - are they hard to come by?
Edited by fxh - 11/7/12 at 10:44pm
post #20660 of 55993
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

The Perth.
Thanks for your insight, by the way.

No worries, best of luck. The Perth is a nice shoe - did you get a calf model or the suede?
post #20661 of 55993
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaypee View Post


New, used, mechanical, quartz, auto, vintage, vintage looking, size, strap, brand, bracelet, location, case size?
One google search, clicking on the first link resulted in this. http://www.coolvintagewatches.com/Watches/Under_300/under_300.htm
Go, read, search, decide..
Away!

 

for all sorts of watches, check out:

 

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=threadt&frm_id=25  &

 

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/

 

worth the wait, if the right one comes across.

post #20662 of 55993
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Originally Posted by Prof. B. Bear View Post


^ This. It's annoying as fuck.

 

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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
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Re: Should I buy a $350 jacket or not...
In fairness to Michael Sy, I think that his issue is not so much whether he should spend $350 on a jacket, but whether he's getting value for money for said jacket. It's my impression that he's happy to pay $350 - or more - for a jacket but that he doesn't want to throw away his money on a piece of rubbish and as he doesn't yet know a great deal about clothing, he's concerned that he might buy "the wrong thing".
I think that the only way to deal with such an issue is for Michael to do exactly what he intends to do - get out and about and try on as many suits and jackets as he can. Trying things on, seeing what fits, seeing what feels good and getting an idea as to what constitutes a "good" jacket or suit can take time and effort but is well worth it if a person wants to build up a good wardrobe.

 

 

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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post
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^^Yeah, the guy clearly doesn't have as much cash as a lot of the posters on here.
I mean come on, even the most well-heeled among us regularly inquire as to where we can save $15 shipping on saphir.
Why not save money and learn a few things at the same time. If the posts are too petty for you, just skip over them!

 

 

Thanks Journeyman and Lachyzee - it takes balls to stick up for the underdog, especially when he is getting barrelled by Streetminimal and P Bear.

 

JM, you hit the nail so squarely on its head. That is exactly the predicament I am in. I am taking people's advice pretty seriously.

 

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Originally Posted by fxh View Post
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Michael Sy
I haven't followed in detail but I can sympathise with your problem. Part or most even of your problem is these bloody internet forums. They are full of rules and obsessions with details and have very little helpful information about the whole look or your needs or your body shape etc. You'll have overdosed on full or part canvas, lapel roll, tie knots, Goodyear welt shoes, bespoke rules, high armholes, handmade shoes, and so on and so forth. All very interesting in a way and a nice hobby as you go on and wonder why things work or not. But ultimately not all that useful starting out - other than general ideas and framework. (Don't get me wrong, no one enjoys obsessing about details, history materials etc like I do - but its a trap)
You'll make mistakes, everybody does. None of the details matter if something is what you want and works and is the right price. Everyone is concerned about price - otherwise everyone would have bespoke shoes, suits ties and shirts.
At the same time if you are an assiduous forum reader (looker?) of photos you'll see that some of the biggest disasters are not people who have picked up an outfit from"thrift shops" but are displayed by expensive bespoke wearers. Some are just lapses of taste, which is easy to fall into, but reversible within a day if its a combination, less so if its a wrong suit. Others are truly dreadful executions by expensive tailors fropm Savile Row (no NOT Jimmy's street) . It is even possible, and I know this might shock you, to look like a 30 year old school boy whose mum washed his suit in the machine and shrunk it, in P Johnson suit, bare ankles and camo driving shoes. (not anyone on this thread naturally. It would be bad mannered of me to point you to pictures.)
It only takes a quick search to see tales of woe of those with (seemingly) unlimited disposable cash ordering Perfect Pants From Across the Sea that cost as much as a small car, or HECS debt, or 3 months without a job. Ordering pants that don't turn up (note small pants/cuff wordplay) for over 18 months and if they do arrive are the wrong waist size. ref: Wallace and Gromit - The Wrong Trousers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk6zbY8i4_8 Or even better an actual but rare documentary of an iGentt receiving the aforementioned Perfect Pants From Across the Sea. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibJ1gL0dzI
These people are not like you and me. They live in another dimension.
Again - you'll make mistakes.
Opshops sometimes can give you a decent, not perfect, suit or sportcoat for $30. Don't worry if the armholes are not high etc etc , just get it to fit basically at shoulders waist and length right. Don't worry if its a tad too big on shoulders or other small things. Opshops aren't for all. Thankfully. And they are getting less and less interesting.
Brand warehouses like, Gazman, Sportscraft are good to pick up affordable jackets, pants and shirts that are end of season, on sale or...
Exorcise those forum voices from your head and enjoy the clothes.

 

 

FXH, you'll like my next post. I like your post because it reminds me that just because you pay a hefty price tag, doesn't mean your guaranteed to look and feel great. I like your imaginative writing :).


Edited by JimmyHoffa - 11/7/12 at 10:36pm
post #20663 of 55993

Today I popped into the Herringbone store at Macquarie Place – where all the wanker bankers go. I was checking out the metro cotton jacket in the beige colour and the navy colour. Both jackets were slightly too long, the sleeves were too long and there was excess fabric at the back of the jacket. The navy was nice, but beige made me look like a 50 year old guy at the Ivy Bar on a Saturday night. Each jacket was $315, and it would have cost about $100 in alterations. I held off.

 

While I was there, I got speaking to Stephanie – who has been working at Herringbone for 7 years. I asked her about Ethan Newton, Guido, Patrick Johnson and her sister’s fiancé, Thomas, who runs a blog called HespokeShespoke. She knows them all. She spoke highly of Ethan and his shoe polishing skills. I didn’t know he was responsible for Herringbone’s MTM service. That is how he must have met Phat Guido; through Herringbone. She says they were in the same ‘watch club’ amongst other things. PG got her tick of approval for style. Apparently Ethan bought almost every C&J shoe Herringbone stocked. She also raved on about how good Patrick Johnson looks in suits; which sought of pissed me off. A lot was said about Joshua leaving the business, Matt Jensen starting MJ Bale and the buyout of Herringbone from a few years back. A lot was said. It was the hand gestures that mimicked a plane heading towards the ground that said the most. Anyway, it was a good crash course into the history of some of the ‘Styleforum Elite’.

 

Afterwards, I met Markus at Myer to try on the P Johnson jacket. Markus was sensational to deal with: he wasn’t pushy at all, he was relaxed and he was honest. He claims that the jacket hadn’t been worn outside the house. Considering the thread that holds the double vents closed was still attached on both sides, I believed him. I did Rob’s test of checking the boutonniere hole – it was open and there is a thread to hold a flower in place. Tom was the one that commissioned the jacket, not Patrick. Perhaps that is why there are 3 buttons, not 4. The buttons are working buttons – which are quite nice. On the inside of the jacket there is a red monogram ‘MW’ which are Markus’s initials.

 

The shoulders, chest, waist, sleeves and the fabric at the back of the jacket are perfect. However, it was too long by about an inch. In other words, it was perfect, except for length. I paid $250 to Markus and went to my tailor who measured the jacket to make sure that it would be absolutely fine to take up an inch. There is nothing worse than having besom pockets that are too close to the bottom of the jacket. I am pretty lucky because the besom pockets are quite high and shortening the bottom of the jacket does not affect the proportion of the jacket. To shorten, it costs $50. So all up I paid $300 for a jacket that I like, that fits well, and feels great.

 

On a side note, I was asking my tailor about the 3 jackets I have brought him over the last month. I didn’t tell him it was a P Johnson jacket. He said, “The elite suit jacket is very average quality. The MJ Bale suit is about 10x better than the Elite suit jacket. This jacket (P Johnson jacket) is about 20x better than the MJ Bale Jacket”. He pointed to the lining on the sleeve, the shoulder, the inside of the jacket and said that it must be made by a single tailor in Europe – “true MTM”. He held up a $2,000 Bagozza jacket and claimed that the P Johnson jacket was a slightly better finish. I questioned him and he defiantly claimed that tailoring is his profession and life’s work, and that he can tell straight away whether something is quality or not. So I guess there is a logical reason after all, as to why P Johnson is more expensive than MJ Bale or Elite Suits. I was really hoping 1-2 months ago, I could get P Johnson quality at Elite Suit pricing. The world just doesn’t work like that unfortunately.

 

I could have popped into the Herringbone warehouse, but I didn’t have time, and I assume that their would fit pretty similar to the 2 jackets I tried on at Macquarie Place.

 

Anyway, my experience laid out for any new young fellas, like me, that are thinking of buying their first jacket or suit.


Edited by JimmyHoffa - 11/7/12 at 10:32pm
post #20664 of 55993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

No worries, best of luck. The Perth is a nice shoe - did you get a calf model or the suede?

I went calf as something to wear at work. The suedes in my size seemed a little dark to me, plus they would have been much, much harder to justify to HRH at home.
post #20665 of 55993
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaypee View Post


New, used, mechanical, quartz, auto, vintage, vintage looking, size, strap, brand, bracelet, location, case size?
One google search, clicking on the first link resulted in this. http://www.coolvintagewatches.com/Watches/Under_300/under_300.htm
Go, read, search, decide..
Away!

Woops, sorry forgot to write that  I'm looking for a mechanical watch (the windy ones); my dad broke his really old one 5 years ago and I've been wanting to get him one for Christmas.

EDIT: 

Thanks you guys for the auto suggestions; if I end up getting an auto I'll get the one Paisley found that;s exactly the type I'm looking for; though if it were mechanical than would be even better. Mum said it's perfect too bigstar[1].gif

post #20666 of 55993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Today I popped into the Herringbone store at Macquarie Place – where all the wanker bankers go. I was checking out the metro cotton jacket in the beige colour and the navy colour. Both jackets were slightly too long, the sleeves were too long and there was excess fabric at the back of the jacket. The navy was nice, but beige made me look like a 50 year old guy at the Ivy Bar on a Saturday night. Each jacket was $315, and it would have cost about $100 in alterations. I held off.

 

While I was there, I got speaking to Stephanie – who has been working at Herringbone for 7 years. I asked her about Ethan Newton, Guido, Patrick Johnson and her sister’s fiancé, Thomas, who runs a blog called HespokeShespoke. She knows them all. She spoke highly of Ethan and his shoe polishing skills. I didn’t know he was responsible for Herringbone’s MTM service. That is how he must have met Phat Guido; through Herringbone. She says they were in the same ‘watch club’ amongst other things. PG got her tick of approval for style. Apparently Ethan bought almost every C&J shoe Herringbone stocked. She also raved on about how good Patrick Johnson looks in suits; which sought of pissed me off. A lot was said about Joshua leaving the business, Matt Jensen starting MJ Bale and the buyout of Herringbone from a few years back. A lot was said. It was the hand gestures that mimicked a plane heading towards the ground that said the most. Anyway, it was a good crash course into the history of some of the ‘Styleforum Elite’.

 

Afterwards, I met Markus at Myer to try on the P Johnson jacket. Markus was sensational to deal with: he wasn’t pushy at all, he was relaxed and he was honest. He claims that the jacket hadn’t been worn outside the house. Considering the thread that holds the double vents closed was still attached on both sides, I believed him. I did Rob’s test of checking the boutonniere hole – it was open and there is a thread to hold a flower in place. Tom was the one that commissioned the jacket, not Patrick. Perhaps that is why there are 3 buttons, not 4. The buttons are working buttons – which are quite nice. On the inside of the jacket there is a red monogram ‘MW’ which is Markus’s initials.

 

The shoulders, chest, waist, sleeves and the fabric at the back of the jacket are perfect. However, it was too long by about an inch. In other words, it was perfect, except for length. I paid $250 to Markus and went to my tailor who measured the jacket to make sure that it would be absolutely fine to take it up an inch. There is nothing worse than having besom pockets that are too close to the bottom of the jacket. I am pretty lucky because the besom pockets are quite high and shortening the bottom of the jacket does not affect the proportion of the jacket. To shorten, it costs $50. So all up I paid $300 for a jacket that I like, that fits well, and feels great.

 

On a side note, I was asking my tailor about the 3 jackets I have brought him over the last month. I didn’t tell him it was a P Johnson jacket. He said, “The elite suit jacket is very average quality. The MJ Bale suit is about 10x better than the Elite suit jacket. This jacket (P Johnson jacket) is about 20x better than the MJ Bale Jacket”. He pointed to the lining on the sleeve, the shoulder, the inside of the jacket and said that it must be made by a single tailor in Europe – “true MTM”. He held up a $2,000 Bagozza jacket and claimed that the P Johnson jacket was a slightly better finish. I questioned him and he defiantly claimed that tailoring is his profession and life’s work, and that he can tell straight away whether something is quality or not. So I guess there is a logical reason after all, as to why P Johnson is more expensive than MJ Bale or Elite Suits. I was really hoping 1-2 months ago, I could get P Johnson quality at Elite Suit pricing. The world just doesn’t work like that unfortunately.

 

I could have popped into the Herringbone warehouse, but I didn’t have time, and I assume that their would fit pretty similar to the 2 jackets I tried on at Macquarie Place.

 

Anyway, my experience laid out for any new young fellas, like me, that are thinking of buying their first jacket or suit.

 

 

 

$300 for a MTM jacket that fits you like a glove is value  rotflmao.gif. congrats on the buy.

post #20667 of 55993
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaypee View Post


New, used, mechanical, quartz, auto, vintage, vintage looking, size, strap, brand, bracelet, location, case size?
One google search, clicking on the first link resulted in this. http://www.coolvintagewatches.com/Watches/Under_300/under_300.htm
Go, read, search, decide..
Away!

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post


I think he said vintage military around WW2... so that necessarily limits his options I think:
Mechanical, vintage, used, military style.
More to the point is what style of military is he after - army, diver's, airman's watch...
Bunny - this something like you had in mind?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

om10_big.jpg

 

EDIT - this link might give you some ideas: http://www.timelyclassics.com/portal/index.php?route=product/category&path=66

Woops, forgot to mention I'm looking for a mechanical one (windy). Sorry I'm not very experienced at watches :P

EDIT: Thanks for the help so far though. Prince that is a great watch, if I can't find a nice mechanical watch I will get that one for my dad.

Mum said Prince's was perfect if I couldn't find a windy one (at their house this afternoon). bigstar[1].gif

P.S.

Army or airman's watch pls :)

FUARK I THOUGH I DIDN"T POST THIS (CHROME CRASHED ON MY ASS T_T) Sorry

post #20668 of 55993
TehBunny - sorry if I missed this detail, but do you want a new watch, or an old one?

If you want a new, mechanical watch in a military style, why not see if you can get a Hamilton "Mechanical Officer" watch?

Sorry - I can't remember if you posted a budget, either, but I think that you should be able to get the above watch for around US$450 new-in-box, perhaps less than that if you look around.
post #20669 of 55993

First sorry to flood this page with so many of my posts...but here goes

My budget is less than $350, no preference when it comes to old and new. Journeyman that's a great watch.

I think I just found it on paisley's website under the name 'Khaki Field' the only difference I notice is that there is no date on that one compared to your's 'Mechanical Officer' (model difference I presume?).

 

Thanks for your patience :)

 

EDIT: And in other news I realised there was a hyper link function fing02[1].gif

EDIT AGAIN: Fxh-those Casio's sure aren't hard to come by, that's the digital watch my dad usesbiggrin.gif. I think he koped it at one of the mainstream jewellers (Prouds etc.) 


Edited by TehBunny - 11/7/12 at 9:03pm
post #20670 of 55993
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Originally Posted by Michael Sy View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Today I popped into the Herringbone store at Macquarie Place – where all the wanker bankers go. I was checking out the metro cotton jacket in the beige colour and the navy colour. Both jackets were slightly too long, the sleeves were too long and there was excess fabric at the back of the jacket. The navy was nice, but beige made me look like a 50 year old guy at the Ivy Bar on a Saturday night. Each jacket was $315, and it would have cost about $100 in alterations. I held off.

While I was there, I got speaking to Stephanie – who has been working at Herringbone for 7 years. I asked her about Ethan Newton, Guido, Patrick Johnson and her sister’s fiancé, Thomas, who runs a blog called HespokeShespoke. She knows them all. She spoke highly of Ethan and his shoe polishing skills. I didn’t know he was responsible for Herringbone’s MTM service. That is how he must have met Phat Guido; through Herringbone. She says they were in the same ‘watch club’ amongst other things. PG got her tick of approval for style. Apparently Ethan bought almost every C&J shoe Herringbone stocked. She also raved on about how good Patrick Johnson looks in suits; which sought of pissed me off. A lot was said about Joshua leaving the business, Matt Jensen starting MJ Bale and the buyout of Herringbone from a few years back. A lot was said. It was the hand gestures that mimicked a plane heading towards the ground that said the most. Anyway, it was a good crash course into the history of some of the ‘Styleforum Elite’.

Afterwards, I met Markus at Myer to try on the P Johnson jacket. Markus was sensational to deal with: he wasn’t pushy at all, he was relaxed and he was honest. He claims that the jacket hadn’t been worn outside the house. Considering the thread that holds the double vents closed was still attached on both sides, I believed him. I did Rob’s test of checking the boutonniere hole – it was open and there is a thread to hold a flower in place. Tom was the one that commissioned the jacket, not Patrick. Perhaps that is why there are 3 buttons, not 4. The buttons are working buttons – which are quite nice. On the inside of the jacket there is a red monogram ‘MW’ which is Markus’s initials.

The shoulders, chest, waist, sleeves and the fabric at the back of the jacket are perfect. However, it was too long by about an inch. In other words, it was perfect, except for length. I paid $250 to Markus and went to my tailor who measured the jacket to make sure that it would be absolutely fine to take it up an inch. There is nothing worse than having besom pockets that are too close to the bottom of the jacket. I am pretty lucky because the besom pockets are quite high and shortening the bottom of the jacket does not affect the proportion of the jacket. To shorten, it costs $50. So all up I paid $300 for a jacket that I like, that fits well, and feels great.

On a side note, I was asking my tailor about the 3 jackets I have brought him over the last month. I didn’t tell him it was a P Johnson jacket. He said, “The elite suit jacket is very average quality. The MJ Bale suit is about 10x better than the Elite suit jacket. This jacket (P Johnson jacket) is about 20x better than the MJ Bale Jacket”. He pointed to the lining on the sleeve, the shoulder, the inside of the jacket and said that it must be made by a single tailor in Europe – “true MTM”. He held up a $2,000 Bagozza jacket and claimed that the P Johnson jacket was a slightly better finish. I questioned him and he defiantly claimed that tailoring is his profession and life’s work, and that he can tell straight away whether something is quality or not. So I guess there is a logical reason after all, as to why P Johnson is more expensive than MJ Bale or Elite Suits. I was really hoping 1-2 months ago, I could get P Johnson quality at Elite Suit pricing. The world just doesn’t work like that unfortunately.

I could have popped into the Herringbone warehouse, but I didn’t have time, and I assume that their would fit pretty similar to the 2 jackets I tried on at Macquarie Place.

Anyway, my experience laid out for any new young fellas, like me, that are thinking of buying their first jacket or suit.

Michael, I'm glad that the P. Johnson jacket fits you well. It's typically possible to bring up the bottom hem of a jacket by an inch (or two, depending on pocket placement), but no more than that otherwise the jacket will look unbalanced.

It's interesting to have a recap of some "SF history".

I assume that you've looked at Phat Guido's "Most Exerent" blog? It's not as interesting (for me, at least) as it used to be as now it's mostly "cawfee" shots and pics of Italian bikes and cycling shoes, rather than tailored clothing. However, Graeme has a great eye and he's taken some excellent photographs over the years. I do find that he belabours the "I'm not part of the online circle jerk" point a bit too much at times as, whilst Graeme clearly thinks that he's original and that he has his own style (and he has made some quite harsh posts about people who dressed similarly to him or who sourced things from the same tailors), you can see virtually identical looks in the pages of Men's Ex, Leon and other Japanese men's clothing magazines. I also find that he sometimes belabours the "just wear it without care" schtick a bit too much at times, too, because evidently Graeme did care a great deal about how he looked in jackets and suits I think that he did put a great deal of thought into how best to combine items together.

I really like Ethan's blog, Rugged Old Salt. Ethan has a gift for photography and clearly devotes a lot of effort to framing and composing his photos. He's taken some lovely photos of buildings, people and nature as well as clothing and I enjoy his more philosophical musings, too. Another thing that I like about Ethan's blog is that the content is original, unlike a lot of Tumblr blogs which are mostly reposts of mid-century modern furniture, girls on bikes, girls wearing glasses, girls wearing glasses whilst on bikes, girls sitting on mid-century modern furniture, food, and the occasional bit of clothing. devil.gif

In addition to my previous post and to fxh's post, I'd also say that, as well as trying on lots of things to see how they feel and to see how they fit you, don't rush out and buy lots of stuff at first. Start out slowly, even though there might be great temptation to buy lots of things (particularly given the prices you see on eBay!). This is because, rather than (for example) looking at a Herringbone or Polo Ralph Lauren catalogue and thinking, "That's my kind of look!", it's best to take your time, and develop your own style. Your perceptions of what looks good will change over time and, unless you have a large discretionary budget to spend on clothing, you won't want to be replacing most of your wardrobe every year or two (unlike Phat Guido).

Take your time, get a feel for what you like, for what looks good, for what fits you well and what colours suit you, and then start spending money on items that will, hopefully, last you for a while and that will stand the test of time. That's my view, in any case, although others may differ!
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