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post #19726 of 57850
I've seen Illesteva in a couple of trendy shops in Sydney recently. Not sure if these are Luxottica (NY co. apparently but frames are either "made in France" or "made in Italy") but they are similar style and quality to C+G, Oliver Peoples etc.
post #19727 of 57850
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

I've seen Illesteva in a couple of trendy shops in Sydney recently. Not sure if these are Luxottica (NY co. apparently but frames are either "made in France" or "made in Italy") but they are similar style and quality to C+G, Oliver Peoples etc.

the clear smoked plastic frames look sweet

post #19728 of 57850
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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

A couple of pics of my two pairs of Alden cordovan after a good brushing.
Alden Longwing (Cigar Shell)

Alden for J.Crew (Colour 8 Cap Toe Boot)

 

love the long wings -i think ill get some.. what size? (i think we have same size) barrie last?

post #19729 of 57850
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

I have some REs as well. They sure are built to last.
Buying from Luxxotica doesn't bother me at all. If they are selling stuff that looks good and you can get them at the right price that's all that matters (assuming they aren't behaving in an unethical way).

There was a good piece on Luxottica in a recent British documentary - Inside the Megabrands I think it was called. They did a tour of the factory where they make glasses for all the different brands.
post #19730 of 57850
Who cares as long as the frames are to your liking and are made well.
post #19731 of 57850
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

Who cares as long as the frames are to your liking and are made well.

I agree but I think it's still interesting to know where things come from and how they are made.
post #19732 of 57850
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

There was a good piece on Luxottica in a recent British documentary - Inside the Megabrands I think it was called. They did a tour of the factory where they make glasses for all the different brands.

I was trying to remember the title of that series - it was a good, if a bit shallow, look at the whole branding thing.

iirc it showed that not only are most of the glasses /frames are made the same factory but are actually made at the same bench by the same people on a different shift depending on demand.

My objection to the monopoly of Luxottica is based on the fact that many many people, most of those over 45 yo and a majority of people with an asian background, require glasses to read, many older persons require glasses to function effectively in everyday life and do normal things like cook, and walk without falling over. The extortionate price of glasses, which mostly are just bits of cheap plastic, results in preventably hospitalisation and a distinctly deficient life.

Have I done anything to change it other than rant about it on a menswear forum? - Yes at federal, state and local levels. (Its why I know, at least on this, what I'm taking about)

Is it all Luxottica's fault - no.

Do I care if a mob of people who can afford it pay over the odds for bits of plastic - no.

Do I like to make people aware of boring factual information rather than mythology or marketing hype - yup.
post #19733 of 57850
+1 to fxh's comments.

The price of prescription eyewear and sunglasses in Australia is largely outrageous and, to be frank, I also disagree with the insistence of optometrists that you must "renew" your prescription every twelve months. Certainly, whilst some people's eyes change, other people have very stable, albeit deficient, vision and have no need of a yearly examination.

Thankfully, the past few years have seen a few, cheaper places emerge, such as places to get prescription glasses in Big W. I'm not sure how expensive they are, but I'm sure that they are cheaper than the sky-high prices for frames charged by OPSM, Laubman & Pank and all of the other places owned by Luxottica.

Personally, I get my glasses in Japan, in a chain of stores named "Jin's Global Standard". They source most of their frames from Korea, although they also stock some that are made in Japan. Frame prices in aluminium or acetate start from Y4000 (about $50), and "normal" prescription lenses are very cheap, such that most pairs of glasses cost between $80 to $120 in total. You choose your frame, hand over your current glasses so that they can scan the lens to get your prescription, and thirty minutes later you walk out with a new pair of glasses.

Of course, I know that Japan has a much greater population density than Australia and thus there are many more potential customers there, but it still frustrates me that we pay so much for glasses here. Of course, we pay much more in Australia compared to most other countries for a great many things, including most of our clothing, so I suppose that paying extortionate amounts for eyeglasses shouldn't surprise me!
post #19734 of 57850
Here are some photos of today's outfit - I had been thinking of wearing a maroon grenadine tie and a sky blue pocket square with white edging, but decided to be a bit "brighter" at the last minute:


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Details:

- Herringbone jacket - actually part of a suit - in a blue PoW check with a brick red overcheck. Interestingly, the jacket only has one button;
- Deer Style shirt in a sky blue, royal oxford cloth;
- Ascot knit tie in brick red;
- Vanda pocket square;
- RL Polo grey nailhead trousers; and
- Loake "Strand" Adelaide-throat balmorals in burgundy.
post #19735 of 57850
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Originally Posted by DartagnanRed View Post

I have made a vow never to purchase from Luxxotica. They are an amazing company with staggering profit margins but as fxh points out in detail, they are truly close to a monopoly. For glasses frames, with lenses supplied by a guy in Surry Hills, check out http://www.sneakingduck.com/ Run by an ex Google exec and by the same team as Shoes of Prey, which makes custom footwear for women. They also have a great try-before-you-buy system, worth a look.

 

I gave their "Try and Home" program a go but was very unimpressed by the frames quality :( Maybe somebody can speak to the longevity of their frames but they just felt cheap and tacky to me.....

post #19736 of 57850
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

The price of prescription eyewear and sunglasses in Australia is largely outrageous and, to be frank, I also disagree with the insistence of optometrists that you must "renew" your prescription every twelve months. Certainly, whilst some people's eyes change, other people have very stable, albeit deficient, vision and have no need of a yearly examination.

The question of renewing your prescription is a some what vexed issue. People with myopia do not stabilise their eye sight and it changes a lot i know that in my early twenties I had to change them once every 18 months or so to improve my vision. But that said people with eye sight issues don't fit one easy model.

The price of prescription lenses has gone through the roof in the last ten years, I noticed they started to increase with the introduction of high index plastic lenses I use nikon lite lenses and in the past four years they have gone from around $300 $400 I am at -7.

Mind you I have been lucky the past few years in that my eyes have stabilised and have not declined anymore and according to my optometrist they should at last stabilise, but lets face facts acetate frames deteriorate faster than titanium or gold frames. Which is a pain.

Personally I am in favour of a yearly check particularly now a lot of places throwing in the digital retina check as part of the service, the most annoying thing though is a succession of Governments have refused to reclassify laser surgery from its current status as cosmetic. foo.gif Which puts the cost out of most peoples range but for me its too late in the day to go down that path.

PS Journeyman Nice Tie!
post #19737 of 57850

I've always wanted me some Tart Arnell frames; and doing movember.

EDIT

Guys just saw that the armoury was selling their denim on their website and as I haven't bought those 3-sixteens and am wondering whether I should buy those (wife said I could get them if I was ok with no getting new shoes for 6 months :P) and go behind my wife's back.....she's in good mood because she and her friends went thrifting and she found a pair of louboutin's fing02[1].gif (can virtually do what I want for the next 3 days)

post #19738 of 57850
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

I agree but I think it's still interesting to know where things come from and how they are made.

+1 good point.

I will be trying Big W next time I need a new prescription. As journeyman states, they have to be cheaper than OPSM et al.
post #19739 of 57850
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Originally Posted by catpower View Post

My current Modo frames have been through everything from being dropped countless times and slept on to a particularly hairy experience at the beach where I lost them as I went under a wave. Yep. Rookie error.

 

that sight would've been gold  facepalm.gif

post #19740 of 57850
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Firmin View Post

The question of renewing your prescription is a some what vexed issue. People with myopia do not stabilise their eye sight and it changes a lot i know that in my early twenties I had to change them once every 18 months or so to improve my vision. But that said people with eye sight issues don't fit one easy model.
The price of prescription lenses has gone through the roof in the last ten years, I noticed they started to increase with the introduction of high index plastic lenses I use nikon lite lenses and in the past four years they have gone from around $300 $400 I am at -7.
Mind you I have been lucky the past few years in that my eyes have stabilised and have not declined anymore and according to my optometrist they should at last stabilise, but lets face facts acetate frames deteriorate faster than titanium or gold frames. Which is a pain.
Personally I am in favour of a yearly check particularly now a lot of places throwing in the digital retina check as part of the service, the most annoying thing though is a succession of Governments have refused to reclassify laser surgery from its current status as cosmetic. foo.gif Which puts the cost out of most peoples range but for me its too late in the day to go down that path.
PS Journeyman Nice Tie!

The usual recommendation for eye examinations is around 2 years.

These examinations are effectively free as most places bulk bill (in the anticipation of selling you overpriced frames) they are obliged to give you the prescription if you ask - so that you may go elsewhere or nowhere. They should at the same time exam you for eye diseases**, some of which can make you lose your sight ( loosing eyesight is second only to cancer as the biggest health fear) . Glaucoma is one of the most common but there are others such as macular degeneration (smoking is a risk factor) and such. Sadly optometrists track record on detecting these isn't as good as it should be but it is improving.

If you have anything other than "normal" deterioration you should really see an ophthalmologist.

On Laser surgery - despite glowing testimonials , a stock in trade of clairvoyants, naturopaths, homeopathy, financial advisors, HK tailors and spiritualists, the evidence on the long term effectiveness and superiority over other methods, of laser surgery is not yet convincing. Thats why it isn't taxpayer funded. (Firman - you don't see testimonials of all the people who had expensive laser surgery that after 3 - 6 months reverted to previous problems)

NB: People who have diabetes are at a considerably increased risk of losing their sight (amongst other things)

At the risk of pointing out the bleeding obvious - and bolstered by the fact that we are discussing this on a fashion forum - sadly eyeglasses have been transformed by marketing (and primarily Luxottica) into a retail fashion item rather than a health care item. This is what has supported the crazy prices and the crowding out of health care issues. Thankfully there is a small but growing movement amongst optometrists to revert to a health care orientation.

Back to the costs: Ms fxh gets two pair of swishy fashion glasses each year we go to Taiwan - for around $80 the two. She either takes the latest script or just gets the glasses scanned at the glasses shop. The next day they are fitted. Me, not having a cute asian nose, to put it kindly, I can't get glasses in Taiwan. I have about 5 pair of bifocals, the best - really - is an expensive pair of Silhouettes - rimless light as a feather, I also have 2 pair of generic cheapies from my great optometrists, lightweight and thin metal that I wear most days, and some Shuron tortoiseshell Revelations with clip on sunnies plus a few pair of readers and a pair of look overs now confined to "boys" outdoor jobs.

Edit: ** I should add that even if you are a younger fucker who thinks they are bullet proof you should get a "free" eye exam every now and then. Most , not all, eye diseases can now be well controlled if detected early. One of my mates went blind at 22 from glaucoma undetected. Even brown cordovan meerkat double monks (or camo driving slippers - hi rompy), worn sockless don't make up for being blind.
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