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post #196 of 54911
Journeyman: Appreciate the input. I was trying to gauge the quality and value of their product, two words not usually used when discussing AUS clothing. My patriotism only goes so far. With the Pacific Peso roaring back towards parity with the US$ their $135 shirts are approaching the cost of Neopolitian makers (Barba/Finamore). Regarding the blousy fit they have a "side seam" option on the website which reduces the dimensions by a further 5cms. Although they didn't mention the actual shoulder/chest/waist sizes. I suppose a phone call would solve that or better yet, since I'm also from Brissy, maybe a drive up the coast to see in person. God knows the girlfriend has been nagging about getting away ever since the tragic end of the football season.
post #197 of 54911
Unsurprisingly, Barba and Finamore are much better quality than Edward Stripe. Which is not to say that Edward Stripe is bad, but that Barba and Finamore are very good. Excellent cloth, lovely collars, very thick mother-of-pearl buttons and so on. I would pretty much always say that Australian shirts will lose out to overseas shirts, particularly when you are paying full price for the Australian shirts. This is particularly so given that there are now a lot of places on the internet where you can get shirts at deep discounts (Shop the Finest and Virtual Clothes Horse as examples of Italian shirts, and a lot of the English makers, including Harvie and Hudson, as examples of English shirts). To my mind, Edward Stripe shirts are fairly similar to Charles Tyrwhitt and TM Lewin. Edward Stripe collars are not quite as hard/thick as Tyrwhitt and TM Lewin collars but fabrics and construction are very similar. Edward Stripe shirts have thin, MoP buttons whereas the lower lines of Tyrwhitt have plastic buttons, but apart from that they are very comparable. If you find something from Barba, Finamore, Borrelli et al that you like, then it's always going to beat the "Australian" firms. Always. Really, the only advantage of buying shirts locally is that you will get a wider range of patterns, whereas because Shop the Finest, Virtual Clothes Horse and eBay sell a discounted range of goods, the variety will not be as great. As a final note I think that, for quality shirts, Harvie and Hudson is hard to beat. Their customer service is good, their shirts are made from lovely cloth, their collars are unfused and light and springy. The only downside is that their regular line is rather baggy and the collars are cut large (to allow for shrinkage, I suppose). Sizing down (from a 16 to a 15.5, for example) or getting their slim-fit shirts would be far preferable to spending cash on Australian shirts, unless you see an Australian shirts in a colour/pattern that you really, really like. That's the only reason that I have some Australian shirts in my wardrobe.
post #198 of 54911
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Originally Posted by insidertrader View Post
Hi All,

I'm brand new to this forum and have only recently started appreciating fashion.

Hoping you guys will be able to provide some advice - I'm posting here rather than in another thread as I'm hoping to get some australian focused responses.

So here's my situation:

I will be starting my first professional job just after christmas after graduating from uni. Will be needing to wear a suit (with tie) every day. To get started I am budgeting around 3 - 3.5K...once I start the job and earning I will be able to continue to add to my wardrobe.

Is that budget realistic/achievable if I don't want to skimp on quality too much (I acknowledge that most of the top quality stuff is well out of range). If so where would you guys go looking for suits and at what price? I was thinking of getting a 2 suits from someone like Steven Aver or maybe something OTR (if OTR which brands would you recommend?). 2 suits I would estimate would cost in total 2K give or take $100 with alterations (BTW how much are alterations roughly in Sydney?).

The next question is shirts...I honestly don't know what is good and what isn't. I would like at a minimum 7 shirts - is budget of about 700 ok?

For ties I was budgeting around $70-100...is that reasonable in Sydney? Are the ties from Tie Rack ok?

I particularly stumped with shoes. I don't like the pointy ones but neither do I like the chunky plain high school type shoes. I've seen a few good ones at Florsheim but don't really know any other place to look other than maybe Aquila.

Sorry for the long post and for any 'dumb' questions. Any help/advice would be great!

I'm from Melbourne, so can't help you with Sydney specific retail advice. However, I do work in a job which requires me to wear a suit, and have been doing so for the last 11 years.

Re suits, this is tricky. IMHO I would invest in 2-3 suits from Herringbone to get you started. They used to have a couple of stock navy / charcoal suits which were sub $1,000. Not sure if that is still the case.

Re shirts and ties, buy online at Harvie & Hudson or TM Lewin. The only problem with H&H shirts is that they fit like tents - you will probably need to get them adjusted by a local tailor. At 25 - 33 quid per shirt (A$50 - $66) this is definately teh way to go.

Re shoes, again, the best option is the internet. Go to DJS and try on a pair of Loakes. Then order them from www.pediwear.co.uk . The 1880 range in particular is quite nice. Once you have the resources, try some of the other classic English brands (Grenson, C&J etc).

Hope this help

Ben
post #199 of 54911
This thread isn't lending me much confidence in my upcoming endeavor. I'm be flying to Melbourne for a few days in November before heading to Sydney for a wedding, and I haven't got a pair of shoes to wear. Shucks.
post #200 of 54911
Hi Guys,

I have been reading a while but this is my first post. I live in Canberra but also lived in Sydney for 5 years and worked in the clothing industry while there, in MTM and for Ralph Lauren and Robbie Ingham in Paddington. My full time job is not in the industry anymore but I do run my own clothing consulting business (just started) here in Canberra in my spare time and also worked at the Herringbone store in Canberra on the weekends a few years back.

Ok, so to your questions, yes Herringbone's suits are very nice, probably too nice for your first suits I would say. Certainly a want and not a need. I'm about to buy one this week when I am in Sydney, the Navy Herringbone (what they call "core" line) that's held all year round. They are still round the $1k mark, though having seen some of the "better" fabrics close up, I don't think they justify being 1.5 more times the price of the core suits. For first suits, check out the Oxford's, VH etc and associated labels at Myer/David Jones around the $500-$700 mark. Your 3.5k budget will get eaten up very quickly at Herringbone!

Still, even for an off the rack suit, they have good features like higher armholes, working sleeve buttons and half canvassing. If you are thin like me, you'll also like the 7 inch drop most of them have. I will post some photo's of the detailing when I get it.

As for shirts, H/Bone are too expensive. I have bunch and they are great shirts, but I got them for free or close enough to and while the collars and cuffs are not fused, they can be a real PITA to iron as they tend to have slight excess fabric on both of these. You can get some good shirts and the odd suit/jkt/ties for good prices at the Surry Hills outlet as someone mentioned though.

I did have 1 shirt made by Charles Nahkle in Parramatta. They are very nice and great service. Still wish I had it. They are the right side of $200 I believe. Also check out the Shirt shop (on Castlereagh st I think) and Baubridge and Kay.

Shoes, yeah that's a toughy. Joseph's have some nice English shoes but unless you want to be served by grumpy old men that look down your nose at you, stay clear of them. Pediwear and P.lal are the go for proper english shoes, though I must admit Country Road do have some half decent oxfords now around the $200 price point. I have some brown wing tips, which are nice and do have welted soles, though not Goodyear I wouldn't say.

Sorry this is getting a bit long winded, that's it from me for now.
post #201 of 54911
I also have a pair of the Country Road captoes and I can't say I love them. The soles don't appear to have a channel of any kind so I suspect they are glued in place. The leather upper is thin and very hard, creases sharply, and almost wooden like in places almost like it's stiffened or hardend. I quite liked the last though so I bought a pair, even at $200. Is it sad that they are one of very few decent looking shoes available in Aus.
post #202 of 54911
Guys seriously with the USD tanking and the malaysian ringitt (spelling?) pegged to the US, C+J via plal is silly cheap. I'm going to load up. CR is a joke. It's Oz J Crew, but 1/2 as good and double the price.
post #203 of 54911
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Originally Posted by Kookz View Post
This thread isn't lending me much confidence in my upcoming endeavor. I'm be flying to Melbourne for a few days in November before heading to Sydney for a wedding, and I haven't got a pair of shoes to wear. Shucks.

You can find quality English and Italian shoes at Harrolds, Henry Buck's, McLouds and American Tailors - the problem is, the mark ups are outrageous. Otherwise, Florsheim if probably your best option.
post #204 of 54911
Thanks for all the advice guys. It really is appreciated. Wasn't aware of the english shirt makers before at all, neither plal and pediware.

I finish up uni in the next few days so will begin my shopping in earnest then! Brilliant timing with the exchange rates as they are at the moment...

Will keep you all updated on my purchases and get hopefully get some good feedback/critiques.

Just as an aside, it seems as though everyone believes that Harvie and Hudson, TM Lewin etc have shirts that are quite blousy. Just so I can adjust my budget accordingly, whats the approximate cost of bringing in the sides and sleeves at a tailor? Am I looking at $20 or more like $40-50? Does it matter how much the sides need to brought in or is the rate fairly standard (if the rate is standard I will consider some of the non slim cut shirts as well).

Cheers
post #205 of 54911
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Originally Posted by insidertrader View Post
Thanks for all the advice guys. It really is appreciated. Wasn't aware of the english shirt makers before at all, neither plal and pediware.

I finish up uni in the next few days so will begin my shopping in earnest then! Brilliant timing with the exchange rates as they are at the moment...

Will keep you all updated on my purchases and get hopefully get some good feedback/critiques.

Just as an aside, it seems as though everyone believes that Harvie and Hudson, TM Lewin etc have shirts that are quite blousy. Just so I can adjust my budget accordingly, whats the approximate cost of bringing in the sides and sleeves at a tailor? Am I looking at $20 or more like $40-50? Does it matter how much the sides need to brought in or is the rate fairly standard (if the rate is standard I will consider some of the non slim cut shirts as well).

Cheers

The Lewin semi-fitted aren't blousy and currently going for 25quid a pop (which is just over 50 Aus bucks).
post #206 of 54911
Given the thread title, I expected to see this:

post #207 of 54911
Quote:
Originally Posted by insidertrader View Post
Thanks for all the advice guys. It really is appreciated. Wasn't aware of the english shirt makers before at all, neither plal and pediware.

I finish up uni in the next few days so will begin my shopping in earnest then! Brilliant timing with the exchange rates as they are at the moment...

Will keep you all updated on my purchases and get hopefully get some good feedback/critiques.

Just as an aside, it seems as though everyone believes that Harvie and Hudson, TM Lewin etc have shirts that are quite blousy. Just so I can adjust my budget accordingly, whats the approximate cost of bringing in the sides and sleeves at a tailor? Am I looking at $20 or more like $40-50? Does it matter how much the sides need to brought in or is the rate fairly standard (if the rate is standard I will consider some of the non slim cut shirts as well).

Cheers

Try to get semi fitted or slim fitted shirts if possible if you like that look and you're not a big guy. It should cost about 25-30 bucks to bring in the side seams and sleeves at a tailor. Its cheaper to dart, but looks a bit silly.
post #208 of 54911
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Originally Posted by Razele View Post
CR is a joke. It's Oz J Crew, but 1/2 as good and double the price.

I stumbled into Country Road in Singapore on a few of my trips there last year, and it is nothing like the Country Road that I remember from the US which closed in 2001-2002. It seems like the whole company went belly-up and only the name was kept, because I remember their clothes in the US being quite nice (certainly, at least, well above BR and JCrew.)
post #209 of 54911
I am also new here and very appreciative of your sartorial expertise. I need your help.
Do any of you gents buy shoes from the US? I am interested in trying the Alden and Allen-Edmonds as a couple of styles seem quite nice. We'll probably get another interest rate rise soon and that could make exchange rates even more favourable, but who really knows?

I would love advice on avoiding the exhorbitant shipping prices some online sites charge. Alden appear to charge US$125...any tips here about favoured online retailers?

How have you gone with sizes? The online charts sometimes differ. I am UK size 9, some charts say US 9.5, others 10. Euro size 43 also fits. Any tips here?

Comments on quality and value? We are getting very good deals from Pediwear etc right now, others of you have mentioned PLal, do the US brands compete currently in your opinion?

Thanks in anticipation.
post #210 of 54911
Just on the shoes point, i buy my shoes from a variety of places in the UK (Herring shoes and Alfred Sargents) and have found them to be hundreds of dollars cheaper than anything i have ever bought in sydney. as long as you know what size you are you can buy a decent pair of shoes for about 200-300 dollars that are better than anything in australia. the problem with australia is that people think that expensive (Church) or trendy shoes are the way to go. whereas classical english shoes and boots are timeless.
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