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post #18226 of 52251
fox81 - were you in Adelaide today? I thought I saw you wearing your brown plaid Luxire shirt. Might have been a very similar shirt if not.
post #18227 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

 

To say that online has taken away Australian jobs is a comment just as ignorant as the comments that Gerry himself has made. If you actually analyse the financial metrics of any online business you will see their cost structure is IDENTICAL in dollars as a brick and mortars retailer. It is just allocated differently within the economy.

 

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Australia is terribly complacent and is horrendous in capital allocation towards industries utilising knowledge base that comes from the advantage of education.  We throw subsidies at old clunking manufacturing, and reduces R & D incentives for developers of technology which makes the manufacturing more efficient.  All ostensibly to protect jobs, but in reality, it is to protect votes by appeasing powerful unions.

 

I see the same argument playing up with the automatic check-out machines at the grocers.  The machines are there because the demand is there.  I hear the same old arguments repeated ad nauseaum with introduction of any new technology eg ATMs, online billing, automatic tollgates, etc.

 

To give you a ludicrous example of how bad we are at funding technology, a recent Australian startup has to go to the US to get funding, and the funding was provided 70% by Australian investors. Am I the only one who sees this with real sadness?

 

As for the lost of young people's jobs as check-out blokes and chicks, I actually rejoice at the idea.  My mate operates a start-up and he is screaming for good switched-on young graphic designers with a modicum of work ethics and initiative.  The business is growing at 100% plus per annum in a market with zero competitors.  Another client of mine needs administrative assistants able to handle the paperwork in a shipping/logistics business. And I can go on and on.  A scarcity of Harvey Norman and other shit brain dead jobs means better futures for young people willing to take the initiative and work hard at higher level jobs.

 

Read up Lee Kuan Yew's book, especially his take on India, where he had the experience of five persons at a golf club pampering him, from taking off his shoes to giving him a towel and getting him a drink.  That is job creation for the unaware.

post #18228 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

Anyway, to veer back into the realm of clothing for a while and to temporarily leave Gerry Harvey behind, here are a few photos of what I was wearing earlier in the week:
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Details - Deer Style cotton suit for spring/summer with waist patch pockets; Deer Style shirt; brown, grenadine tie (from the Tie Rack, as they have some surprisingly nice ties on occasion); Herringbone pocket square; Uniqlo socks and Crockett and Jones shoes.
Please note the use of the official, SF "robopose" in the final photograph. Sorry about the crumpled trousers - they need a press but cotton does tend to wrinkle up and to retain wrinkles more than wool.

Everything looks too tight.

I don't get the fascination/appeal of wearing tight fitting clothes.

 

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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

yes back on the subject of expensive clothing...
My bespoke (mtm?) CJ gloves arrived today. Just in time for the.... oh wait.
As you can hopefully see from the photos, they fit perfectly. Nice and tight and have the 'second skin' feel that I was after.
I might try and wrap a review of them into my rundown of my Luxire shirt, which should also arrive today. And take some more photos not in horrid office lighting...


 

Nice.

 

I ordered my pair in April and used them all winter.

The model I got were these, in the colour in the preview:

http://www.chesterjefferies.co.uk/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=33

 

I gave a snug measurment and told them I wanted a tight fit, they came out very nicely indeed.

post #18229 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

Cool thanks for bringing me into this.... I did choose not to participate in this debate but for some reason we have been implicated.

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To say that online has taken away Australian jobs is a comment just as ignorant as the comments that Gerry himself has made. If you actually analyse the financial metrics of any online business you will see their cost structure is IDENTICAL in dollars as a brick and mortars retailer. It is just allocated differently within the economy.

I'm sorry but I didn't say that anywhere, nor was it implied from anything I wrote. You're rebutting an argument that I didn't make.

If I had, then I would fully expect you to get riled up because it would be incorrect and somewhat offensive. I actually agreed with you - you don't "fill the void" created by the departure of say, Just Jeans (if it was to collapse) since you're aiming at almost completely different demographics.

I don't consider your kind of business as taking away from regular retail jobs at all. I don't consider you to be in competition with the kind of retailers we are talking about (for example, anything owned by Pacific Brands). Completely different clientele.

*edit* Look I do apologise if I came across as accusing you of "stealing jobs from regular Aussies", really not what I meant at all.
Edited by lachyzee - 9/20/12 at 11:50pm
post #18230 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

I see the same argument playing up with the automatic check-out machines at the grocers.  The machines are there because the demand is there.

RE the checkouts - it's fundamentally incorrect to say "they are there because demand is there". It's not that kind of situation at all. Unless your definition of "demand" involves being forced to use something.

Hypothetically:

- in 2005, a supermarket has 8 checkouts open on a regular basis. Average wait time for a customer is 5 mins.
- in 2012, a supermarket has 8 checkouts, but only opens three on a regular basis. They also have 6 self serve checkouts. Of course the customers are not going to all go and line up in three big queues. They see the self serve checkouts, and they use them. The queues for the regular and self serve checkouts even out according to what the mind sees as the fastest option. That's not demand, that's being forced to use whatever is your quickest option. Do you really expect people to line up in the few open regular checkouts on principle? Please.

The net result, though, is an increased average wait time. I would bet my bottom dollar that your wait time at the supermarket now is, on average, longer than it was pre-self serve era.

No-one was "demanding" self serve checkouts. "Demanding" a shorter wait, sure. But I don't think they were introduced with that in mind.
post #18231 of 52251
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post


RE the checkouts - it's fundamentally incorrect to say "they are there because demand is there". It's not that kind of situation at all. Unless your definition of "demand" involves being forced to use something.
Hypothetically:
- in 2005, a supermarket has 8 checkouts open on a regular basis. Average wait time for a customer is 5 mins.
- in 2012, a supermarket has 8 checkouts, but only opens three on a regular basis. They also have 6 self serve checkouts. Of course the customers are not going to all go and line up in three big queues. They see the self serve checkouts, and they use them. The queues for the regular and self serve checkouts even out according to what the mind sees as the fastest option. That's not demand, that's being forced to use whatever is your quickest option. Do you really expect people to line up in the few open regular checkouts on principle? Please.
The net result, though, is an increased average wait time. I would bet my bottom dollar that your wait time at the supermarket now is, on average, longer than it was pre-self serve era.
No-one was "demanding" self serve checkouts. "Demanding" a shorter wait, sure. But I don't think they were introduced with that in mind.

I dont count the time doing my own check-out and bagging my stuff as wait time. The frustration of queues come from not doing anything and not feeling in control, not the actual time involved.  Simple psychology.  Something economists do not understand, at all...

post #18232 of 52251
All I know is I don't like self-checkout. Hate it.

EDIT: Can't bag up groceries and adjust my pocket square/tie. I'm sure y'all understand...
post #18233 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

I dont count the time doing my own check-out and bagging my stuff as wait time. The frustration of queues come from not doing anything and not feeling in control, not the actual time involved.  Simple psychology.  Something economists do not understand, at all...

I think that is a very good point. This probably ameliorates the self serve checkouts for most people, because you feel like you're "doing something about it". This and the fact that you can also put avocados through as apples...
post #18234 of 52251
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Originally Posted by thebrownman View Post

All I know is I don't like self-checkout. Hate it.
EDIT: Can't bag up groceries and adjust my pocket square/tie. I'm sure y'all understand...

And there will be people who hates ATM to this day, and electronic tollgates, and online shopping.

 

If the NSW government would have just let ERG get on with their job in 2000, we would all now have smartcards ala PayWave.  Just look at Hong Kong's amazing Octopus card.  

 

Still, woe betides any technology that interferes with sartorial sensibilities.

post #18235 of 52251
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post


I'm sorry but I didn't say that anywhere, nor was it implied from anything I wrote. You're rebutting an argument that I didn't make.
If I had, then I would fully expect you to get riled up because it would be incorrect and somewhat offensive. I actually agreed with you - you don't "fill the void" created by the departure of say, Just Jeans (if it was to collapse) since you're aiming at almost completely different demographics.
I don't consider your kind of business as taking away from regular retail jobs at all. I don't consider you to be in competition with the kind of retailers we are talking about (for example, anything owned by Pacific Brands). Completely different clientele.
*edit* Look I do apologise if I came across as accusing you of "stealing jobs from regular Aussies", really not what I meant at all.

OK truce. I agree with the comments that we don't want to see an industry  fail. But I do feel strongly that if they are failing its a lack of ability to adapt. Kodak case in point having invented a digital camera first but not developing it because more money was made from selling film ! I think noone feels sorry for Gerry specifically which unfortunately impacts all his employees and franchisees who may not feel the same/agree with his views

 
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post


I think that is a very good point. This probably ameliorates the self serve checkouts for most people, because you feel like you're "doing something about it". This and the fact that you can also put avocados through as apples...

FWIW this is exactly why they rolled it out. Consumer demand and the psychology of consumers controlling their  own destiny. The novelty im sure will roll off and you will see it peel back as seen in the UK. However, interestingly your comment re avocados as apples .. the reverse is true gross margins through self checkout have gone up ... because people are TOO cautious and sometimes double scan items.

 

So rather than a security/shrink issue they are getting people paying too much!

post #18236 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

because people are TOO cautious and sometimes double scan items.

So rather than a security/shrink issue they are getting people paying too much!

I've always thought that all those "pay what you think its worth" restaurants must make a tonne of dough for a similar reason (ie fear of embarrassment). People don't want to seem cheap in front of their friends, to the hipster waiter/tress, to fellow diners etc.
post #18237 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Gilmour View Post

In the market for trees myself and by chance I have just bought a pair of Loake UK8 F-fitting.

 

Do you think the small is the way to go then as they would fit both the Loake and the Meermin

Okay, just checked the trees last night.  The Epic trees are wide, and you will have difficulties fitting shoes with narrow lasts.  I believe another SF member (cannot remember who ATM, sorry) already warned us previously on Epic trees width.

 

Meermin's Hiro last is already a generous last, but the EPIC M size will not fit Size UK 8.5.  If you have medium width fitting, I suggest be safe and either go one smaller or choose another tree.  

post #18238 of 52251
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Originally Posted by UnnamedPlayer View Post

Everything looks too tight.
I don't get the fascination/appeal of wearing tight fitting clothes.

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I gave a snug measurment and told them I wanted a tight fit, they came out very nicely indeed.

I know what you are saying just funny to read these two lines in the same post. Journeyman's fit has already been overanalysed and I am happy to see his posts here, especially his splashs of colour.

Now to choose a pocket square tie combination for Tough Mudder tomorrow morning...
post #18239 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Pink Socks View Post

I know what you are saying just funny to read these two lines in the same post. Journeyman's fit has already been overanalysed and I am happy to see his posts here, especially his splashs of colour.
Now to choose a pocket square tie combination for Tough Mudder tomorrow morning...

Go for a cravat or neckerchief instead - it will help to wipe the mud off your face!
post #18240 of 52251
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

Okay, just checked the trees last night.  The Epic trees are wide, and you will have difficulties fitting shoes with narrow lasts.  I believe another SF member (cannot remember who ATM, sorry) already warned us previously on Epic trees width.

 

Meermin's Hiro last is already a generous last, but the EPIC M size will not fit Size UK 8.5.  If you have medium width fitting, I suggest be safe and either go one smaller or choose another tree.  

On the other hand, if you do get trees that are marginally too big, there's always sandpaper.

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